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Sapphyre
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Does anyone else find it creepy that we're talking about a person's address? And calling the person? The simple explanation here is that the person is mailing out something that they want to get to you or back to them. Besides, a return address would be necessary for international shipping. We all know that Shane is a real person. Wouldn't it be safe to assume that Jessica is too? So, why do we care where she lives? That's not a puzzle, riddle or anything like a game.

Pathological Truth has been registered and worked on for over a year. Those videos were made months ago. Her FB profile has friends who are in the same general area. We're making mysteries that aren't there.

According to the ARG Information page something is supposed to happen today or tomorrow. The ARG Information page says that someone or something else is supposed to come along. Maybe wait for that? Because this started as a "real world" DVD it had to start with some real people.

Those of us who lurked around Hallucinine learned the hard way about making calls. We made calls to people and upset someone who was already grieving.

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Tresbien
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The Mirror wrote:
Hi Linda!!!!!
I'll call the parsonage as soon as my phone is charged up

might this:
http://www.pathologicaltruth.com/facsimile/visual/puzzle.html

have the password to this?
http://www.pathologicaltruth.com/test/revenge.html

For the record, I'm not sure if all this is IG or if it's merely unrelated whimsy.


Hi Heather!

Spoiler (Rollover to View):
Check the source code if you're a "cheater."


My DVD arrived today. It bears 29 in red on the front of the sleeve, and on the back says: NOTEBOOK #196 WAS EMPTY
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 6:18 pm
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heybeesly
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Sapphyre wrote:

Those of us who lurked around Hallucinine learned the hard way about making calls. We made calls to people and upset someone who was already grieving.


I agree... had a bit of a panicked flashback to that, hahah. The biggest difference I see here is that the address was given to us this time around, and it doesn't look like a home address. Though I agree that it's *probably* just a regular return address, at least looking into it would be the tiniest bit justified in this case. During Hallucinine, didn't people start making calls based on a code or something that never even existed in the first place? That whole ordeal was kind of grasping at straws on our end, if I'm remembering correctly.

I'll post my Facebook message to Maxwell when I get home a little later. It wasn't anything terrifically personal, so I don't mind. Smile

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pia ward
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Thanks for the reminder Sapphyre.

Now I'm back to thinking she is real and not a triumverate but maybe a kind of Richard Alpert (from the show LOST) a go-between and, at the same time, a lab rat herself too. In which case it is seeming very odd that I am talking about her in the 3rd person now.

I have no idea about the address conundrum. That though sort of reminded me of Proffitt's no-nonsense attitude. The sword of the archangel Michael is supposed to cut through the BS and down to the heart of the matter. That is also what Proffitt appeared to want to do, to provide us with the truths he'd gleaned from his life so far.

I look forward to reading your FB message to Proffitt, Heybeesly.

PostPosted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 7:15 pm
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heybeesly
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Here's what I sent Maxwell before he disappeared. Not sure if it's important, but maybe I said some magic words or something. Razz

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Hi Maxwell -

I found your profile through a mutual friend, and while I don't normally contact people that I don't personally know, your latest post about free art caught my attention.

This is something I've been struggling with lately, as a theatre practitioner. Throughout college, many of my classmates would espouse the value of free art - that making our art available to everyone would bring artistic awareness to more of the world, or something. I never really got their point. Meanwhile, our professors were constantly reminding us not to give away our hard work for free - that what we produced was valuable and worth something. Two highly conflicting ideas from the same institution.

In the year since I've graduated, it's apparent that NONE of my classmates who subscribed to the "art should be free" idea are currently employed in the arts. The only ones employed in what they majored in – myself included - were the ones willing to "sell out" and put a price on their art. We may not be doing anything groundbreaking in theatre just yet, but at least we are getting paid for putting in the hard work to produce a product that makes us happy.

Still, now that I'm teaching theatre to younger students, I find myself occasionally playing the part of a hypocrite. After all, theatre is something you learn by seeing and doing, not just by reading and discussing. When I'm teaching a unit on lighting design, how can I explain a brilliant design moment if the students can't see it? I teach in a high-risk, low-income area – there's no way I could have them shell out $80+ apiece to see a professional production at the Kennedy Center, much less add in the travel costs to take them to a Broadway production in New York. So, after explaining how bootleg videos cheapen live theatre and essentially steal from my fellow artists, I have shown my students illegally recorded moments from award-winning plays and musicals, all in the name of arts education.

Sorry for the novel I've written here, but your post made me think about my recent actions. Thanks for making me think. I plan to purchase some professionally produced DVD recordings of professional theatre for future lesson plans.

I hope I haven't bored you too much with this.


::shrug::

EDIT: Just saw this on the ARG Information Facebook page:

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Thank you Ms. S for the interesting news. I have to give my address because people don't always confirm their addresses and if it gets lost I want it back. Also, customs forms require it. So, if you got differing addresses that would cause more mystery. I live in a small town in the middle of nowhere so I can't lie about it. I can assure you I am a real person. I'm not important. If there is a tomorrow it will be important.


Looks like we should call off those phone calls. Smile

I also found "if there is a tomorrow" to be an interesting choice of phrasing.

PostPosted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 7:23 pm
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pia ward
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There's a youtube that goes along with that statement which I think is
important to watch
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=89ixewUKU70
Sapphyr was right. We've veered way off course. Especially me who decided she wasn't even real at all.

Heybeesley, I think your message is what prompted Proffitt's response. It fits for me.

PostPosted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 9:31 pm
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The Mirror
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Sapphyre wrote:
Does anyone else find it creepy that we're talking about a person's address? And calling the person? The simple explanation here is that the person is mailing out something that they want to get to you or back to them. Besides, a return address would be necessary for international shipping. We all know that Shane is a real person. Wouldn't it be safe to assume that Jessica is too? So, why do we care where she lives? That's not a puzzle, riddle or anything like a game.

Pathological Truth has been registered and worked on for over a year. Those videos were made months ago. Her FB profile has friends who are in the same general area. We're making mysteries that aren't there.

According to the ARG Information page something is supposed to happen today or tomorrow. The ARG Information page says that someone or something else is supposed to come along. Maybe wait for that? Because this started as a "real world" DVD it had to start with some real people.

Those of us who lurked around Hallucinine learned the hard way about making calls. We made calls to people and upset someone who was already grieving.


Well, first of all, it's the return address posted on the mail I received, and it's a parsonage, not a private residence. It's also the location featured in a film containing hidden frames, so it seemed very likely that this was part of the trail. I understand that Jessica has been very adamant that she's both real and OOG, therefore I certainly won't be calling the parsonage. But there was nothing creepy going on. We figured she looked like a character that we were supposed to pursue. We received coded mail from a mysterious person with a cluey webpage...why wouldn't we think we were supposed to pursue it?!?
SOOoooo. This isn't a game? At all? It's just a random series of codes on a bunch of dvds? Bummer. I thought all this was leading to something that seemed cool.

PostPosted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 11:37 pm
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ARG Information wrote:
You will get what you're after today, late afternoon or early evening. After that my obligation is fulfilled and I officially resign. From that point it will be up to you to find everything.


This looks imo like our signal to now move on, steam ahead arg direction-wise and it's my real hope that The Mirror, most generous and non-creepy Laughing, will be here to help stoke the engine.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 02, 2010 6:16 am
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The Mirror
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Thanks for the character reference Amandel! Smile

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fezzik
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My DVD showed up today. It is #27. There is nothing apparent on the DVD itself nor the envelope. It is is in a plain white mailer and says "ARG Information Thank You!" on it. Nothing else is written on the mailer.

However, included in the package was a pamphlet. I will include scans later. It appears to have been purchased from a used book store, and has a price tag of ".90" on the front cover in pencil (90 cents). The title is "Alternate German Series: II Cultural Graded Readers" by Thomas Mann. The plaintext of the document appears to be a teaching tool for learning German with several simple children's stories and a glossary in the back.

Inside, the pamphlet is marked up to some extent. Starting with the second page, a yellow highlighter has been used to mark the numbers "7" and "14". Generally these numbers are found in the footnotes, although they are also in the copyright year (1957) and other places. Most of the occurrences of these numbers are in the form "7" or "14", but at least one is the roman numeral "VII" used to mark a section. There are several interesting things about these markings:

1) Not all occurrences of the numbers 7 and 14 are so marked. There is no obvious pattern, except that most (but not all) occurrences of the numbers as footnote markers are marked, and most occurrences in the main body of the text are not marked. I will investigate further.

2) It does not appear that the highlighting is ever used on anything other than the numbers 7 or 14.

3) Other multiples of 7 exist in the document but are not marked.

4) The marking, as done with yellow highlighter, also marks a section of the opposite side of the page. Although there is no obvious pattern to these, at times they seem to line up with characters on the other side of the page. (But at other times they don't).

5) On page 25, in black ink pen are written the words "Nicht Weiter Gehen", loosely "Go No Further". It appears on the surface this is an admonition to the erstwhile puzzle solver, because there are no further marks in the pamphlet. It also may be a warning in general.

Working theories:

Taking all occurrences of 7 or 14 and writing down whether they are marked or not forms a code, such as Morse or binary. I will try this later today.

What is really important is what is marked on the reverse side of the pages (but then why don't some line up?)

All that's really important are the numbers 7 and 14 (but then why mark so many? Why the note on page 25?)

One further note: on page 1 (which is not actually the first page because of the preface) there are several markings in blue pen cursive. Above the word "reicher" is the word "right", marked out and replaced with "rich". Reicher means rich in german. Also above the word wichtige is written "important". Wichtige means important in german. My belief is that these markings are by the original owner of the pamphlet and are just the start of a lazy student's reader notes. The hand they are written is does not match the note on page 24. I believe they are unimportant/unrelated but am including them for completeness.

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fezzik
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Occurences marked: Y for mark, N for no mark. I counted all instances of the number 7 or 14, no matter their form.

YYNNNNNNYNNYNNNNNNNNNYYNNNNNYNNYYNNNNNNNNNYNNYYNNNNNNNNYNNYYNNNYYNNN

After looking at the document and doing this, I'm no longer convinced this is meaningful, but I said I'd do it, so I did.

It's possible that it's just a hint that we're looking for the numbers 7 and 14 in the context of markup; footnotes are marked, section heads, page numbers, but not the main text. However, there is one conspicuous instance in which the numbers 7 and 14 occur in the footnotes but are not marked, which makes no sense.

Note that there are many instances of "17", "27", 37", etc. and they are never marked. However the "7" in "1957" in the copyright is marked, so that's not necessarily a rule either.

I will include full scans when I can get to a quality scanner (probably tonight).

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fezzik
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Listing of what's marked on the opposite side of the markings (A "-" means the mark goes into empty space):

R
-
-
de
d
zsch
8
e
inf.
13
s
da
sei
-
pen
moc
en

Again, nothing obvious here.

As I mentioned, there is one conspicuous instance in which the footnotes 7 and 14 are not marked; they form the phrase "das Schaufenster ist das Thema", or "the show window is the theme". "Schaufenster" is "show window" or the window at the front of a store.

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ARG Information DVD

I've had my DVD for quite some time now and have finally managed to put aside some time to watch it where tornadoes, work, or life in general didn't interrupt. It was well worth the wait, I think.

First of all, kudos to Jessica. You did a fantastic job putting that together. I think it was very well done. It couldn't have been easy doing all that editing. We all know Shane can go on for hours. Wink All kidding aside though, great job Jessica.

I really enjoyed watching the DVD. Having been a Passenger, I found it very interesting to see what the running of Silverladder was like from the PM's perspective. As a player, we see the narrow sliver we are fed, for the most part. Hearing what it was like and what it took to give us what we waited for each Sunday, seeing the big picture, I thought was fascinating. I'd have never guessed it was only a few people. It floored me to find out that the person I couldn't talk to as one character, I totally related to as another. Early ending or not, Silverladder was a great ride and well worth my time and so was the interview DVD.

I am happy I purchased it and even happier I finally got to watch it. Thanks Shane for doing the interview and thank you Jessica for producing it. Smile

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Tresbien
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Re: ARG Information DVD
trailhead?

satims wrote:
A DVD has just been released containing an interview of Shane Watson, puppet master of Silverladder, Voices in the Static, and Hallucinine. It is basically a mini-documentary on ARGs and a more in-depth interview on some specific ARGs. It gives a great glimpse "Behind the Curtain". I bought a pre-order copy last week and I really liked it. I know you guys would like it too! Smile

It looks like you can get ordering information at
http://silverladder.com/dvd.htm.


Could we have a change in subject that reflects it being an ARG trailhead using something like voxstat, the youtube channel, in it? I think it might help to clarify that this has gone beyond a puppetmaster interview.

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New tweet from voxstat:

voxstat wrote:
I II III IV V VI VII


Just to clarify, we're 1000% sure that voxstat relates to all these other shenanigans, right? I'm just a little confused here still. Confused

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