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 		For those wondering, looking at the latest Flash asset there still doesn't appear to be a correct answer to the "DEVICE" prompt.
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vapor
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 		Golden Ratio makes perfect sense. One only needs to look at the Fringe Experience to understand Abram's love for the golden ratio.

I kind of hope that's it, though. I don't see how Fibonacci sequences and golden ratios fit into this ARG/ARE. Unless perhaps that's the alien's way of trying to communicate with humans.

Plus, golden ratio has already been in an Abram's viral before Crying or Very sad

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 		your close...keep trying...super 8 is the clue.

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vapor wrote:
Golden Ratio makes perfect sense. One only needs to look at the Fringe Experience to understand Abram's love for the golden ratio.

I kind of hope that's it, though. I don't see how Fibonacci sequences and golden ratios fit into this ARG/ARE. Unless perhaps that's the alien's way of trying to communicate with humans.


Ah, now it makes sense. Could that be the person's "proof"?

Math is the only universal language. =]

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Eleven72 wrote:
vapor wrote:
Golden Ratio makes perfect sense. One only needs to look at the Fringe Experience to understand Abram's love for the golden ratio.

I kind of hope that's it, though. I don't see how Fibonacci sequences and golden ratios fit into this ARG/ARE. Unless perhaps that's the alien's way of trying to communicate with humans.


Ah, now it makes sense. Could that be the person's "proof"?


I was kind of thinking that as well but as far as proof goes, that wouldn't be very convincing in itself.

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vapor wrote:
Eleven72 wrote:
vapor wrote:
Golden Ratio makes perfect sense. One only needs to look at the Fringe Experience to understand Abram's love for the golden ratio.

I kind of hope that's it, though. I don't see how Fibonacci sequences and golden ratios fit into this ARG/ARE. Unless perhaps that's the alien's way of trying to communicate with humans.


Ah, now it makes sense. Could that be the person's "proof"?


I was kind of thinking that as well but as far as proof goes, that wouldn't be very convincing in itself.


Unless the person had the origin of the signal, ala "Contact"

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 		Right, except instead of prime numbers, it was golden ratio.

This may be a shot in the dark here, but it appears that as early as 1969, people were experimenting with digital music using the golden ratio.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Tenney
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/For_Ann_(rising)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shepard_scale

It fits the timeline and sine waves...but that's about it.

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 		Hmm... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Music_and_mathematics#The_golden_ratio_and_Fibonacci_numbers

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 		Have anyone look if there is any audio "problem" while recording things in super 8 cameras, or if the super 8 cameras have some sort of capturing sound, or if they have "problems" there were any way to correct that?

maybe de device? we need is the one you need to project super 8 films or i mean 8mm film....just thinking this clues are not supose to be "easy" but they also are not supose to be that "hard"

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 		I've been lurking as well... i am confused though because the numbers on the wiki associated with the tones is 25271339. But the numbers everyone here is associating with the tones is 16180339. How come there are two different numbers for this?

This is my first arg i've started from the beginning!

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I've been lurking as well... i am confused though because the numbers on the wiki associated with the tones is 25271339. But the numbers everyone here is associating with the tones is 16180339. How come there are two different numbers for this?


I'll reiterate because I knew this would confuse people... the numbers on the wiki are a pattern, based on the differences in tone frequency, with 1 representing 550, in increments of 50hz.

When the golden ratio number appeared, the only connection is that the general shape of the pattern seems similar, but if you were to draw them over top of each other, they wouldn't line up. It's not an exact match, the tones to the golden ratio sequence.

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 		Re: The IP Address ...
What led to my original thought ...
RasGold wrote:
Right ... terragames is just a site created by Tom Carlino who works out of the Arastradero Preserve (where the IP 16.181.33.8 led me http://en.utrace.de/ip-address/16.181.33.8 then zoom into the map view and you will see what I meant).

Because of the fact it seemed located in the middle of nowhere, my IT guy assumes that HP had set up the location in a lookout post on the preserve.

That result on Google Maps is probably just a result of poor scraping or use of the Maps API, because if you click on the links shown on the bubble on the Google Map it will take you to this page:
http://en.utrace.de/whois/16.181.33.8
Which when you take the address offered and plug it into Google Maps yourself puts the pin right smack onto the HP HQ in Palo Alto. Most of these 'trace somebody's IP to their location' sites yield pretty poor results. I stuck my IP in one a while back and it couldn't resolve my ISP's addy right and thus stuck me at 0 degrees lat. and long. - which put me in the Atlantic just off Africa.

If my 'IT guy' made assumptions like that, I'd be a bit concerned. He could turn out to be the next Terry Childs. Foily!
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thebruce wrote:
When the golden ratio number appeared, the only connection is that the general shape of the pattern seems similar.


Actually, when the phi reference appeared, it was when Oshovah tried matching the notes using an oscillator. His results were a bit different which is where why we got a slight variation over the frequency analysis.

Oshovah wrote:
I also tried matching up notes I created with an oscillator to the notes in the audio, and I came up with something a bit different than what some of you guys have posted. The notes seem to be...

C# F# C# G# C D# D# A#

Though the pitch of the last note seems to wobble a bit, so it could possibly be an A instead of an A#. If this was translated into numerical digits using C as 0, C# as 1, et cetera, it would become...

1 6 1 8 0 3 3 9


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SeekerX wrote:
I have some STRONG point that 16180339 is the right way to read it:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_ratio


Sorry if my phrase used seems like a punch in the face, I was in a real hurry, already overdue to leave for work. Found it by accident. I actually wanted to try the possibilty if the numerical sequence might be an ISBN number. Well, took me some time to figure out how they work and then tried "my german" google for 1-618 just to see what it would come up with. It came up with the german Wiki-article about the Golden Ratio. I don't know yet what to do with it either, though.
Could anyone from another country use "his google" for 1-618 ? I would just like to know if finding clues/connections by google is globally equally easy/hard or if it differs? Well, probably some of you more sophisticated ARG players already know. Anyway, thanks in advance.

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Josh 23 Olla wrote:
Have anyone look if there is any audio "problem" while recording things in super 8 cameras, or if the super 8 cameras have some sort of capturing sound, or if they have "problems" there were any way to correct that?

maybe de device? we need is the one you need to project super 8 films or i mean 8mm film....just thinking this clues are not supose to be "easy" but they also are not supose to be that "hard"


Super 8 film had no sound.

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