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comadarkvale
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Its all good.Lol.
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Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 3:09 am
FilmEdge
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Mitaku wrote:
Basically how I think it is…from a biblical perspective the man driving the truck had, for whatever reason been told to stop the train via whatever means necessary. Thinking about it some more, I don't think the driver knew what was in the train at all, or meant to kill the creature inside. (if he wanted to release it, why not just hijack the train?)
But instead of his plan working, the creature is instead loosed and basically from there all hell breaks loose…literally.
See, that didn't hurt too much, Mitaku.
You may find that others have proposed similar theories to the above, including me previously in this forum and elsewhere. I can't speak intelligently to the biblical references you make, but any thing could have provided inspiration for the story and/or creature in it.
I believe the truck driver's actions are very deliberate in derailing the train, and I assume (for now) his intent was to wreck the train and hopefully kill whatever's in the boxcar.
From the trailer, it looks like a very desperate act of a person with intent but no other means of accomplishing them other than (apparent) self-sacrifice. If so, this implies a great deal about the stakes involved. We might assume that "Scariest thing I ever saw" is not a red herring, so perhaps the driver intends to kill 'it' by destroying the train for some such reason. If so, this would certainly rule out the attempt to save or free the whats-it.
Given the outcome, I hope the driver wasn't 'ordered' or guided to take such drastic action without knowing the reason why and the stakes at hand. That would seem to make it an empty gesture from a human/spiritual standpoint, and at the very least that would undermine any drama in it.
But far too early to *know* anything for certain — and thus the SUPER 8 teaser trailer does its job very effectively.
Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 3:42 am
kikyo226
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Joined: 01 Jun 2010 Posts: 17
We cant asume that he wanted anything to do with the train at all
maybe he was just suicidal and wanted to kill himself...saw a trian track and justed though he could end it like that
Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 3:47 am
VanGoghX
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kikyo226 wrote:
We cant asume that he wanted anything to do with the train at all
maybe he was just suicidal and wanted to kill himself...saw a trian track and justed though he could end it like that
It could be a random suicide. It happens all the time. But thousands of trains operate unmolested every day, and the odds of a train with a unique cargo such as in the movies trailer being randomly targeted are high enough to almost be considered astronomical. High enough that I'd take the bet that it wasn't random. But the odds are still there that it wasn't.
Again, it's kind of a "wait and see" kind of thing. That's the maddening part, eh?
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Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 4:12 am
comadarkvale
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I have to admit.Unmolested train made me laugh.
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Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 4:25 am
slinkydge
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I'm sorry can I refer you all back to page one of this thread, did you say science can't explain everything????
Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 4:28 am
comadarkvale
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Mitaku made that statement.But i did agree with it to a extent.Science can not answer or explain everything.Many things are being researched and many things that had explanations are being revised or changed.And altho many thing maybe not answered as of yet.The statement in no way means it can not or wont some day.Things like dark matter,certain aspects of gravity and how it works with other forces,Sprites,Blue Jets and Blue Starters,Elves and Sprite Haloes,Trolls, Gnomes and Pixies,are all types of lightning that they are still finding new things about.So many things are not fully explained by science or being discovered.
So I dont believe there was anything wrong with that statement but that is just me and my opinion.And im still a man of science.
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Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 5:27 am
SyNeSTro
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Joined: 27 Jun 2009 Posts: 98 Location: EP
So what was the point to this thread again.....?
Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 12:11 pm
slinkydge
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it would be wrong of JJ to use or link to clues that we were unable to work out in a scientific manner, as such, otherwise the answer would be based on theory, then everyone has a different theory.
so we have to assume that anything in this game has a scientific explanation. it exists.
Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 12:17 pm
Mitaku
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slinkydge wrote:
it would be wrong of JJ to use or link to clues that we were unable to work out in a scientific manner, as such, otherwise the answer would be based on theory, then everyone has a different theory.
so we have to assume that anything in this game has a scientific explanation. it exists.
Sometimes being a scientist means going down the most absurd paths and disproving them.
Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 12:21 pm
slinkydge
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Mitaku wrote:
slinkydge wrote:
it would be wrong of JJ to use or link to clues that we were unable to work out in a scientific manner, as such, otherwise the answer would be based on theory, then everyone has a different theory.
so we have to assume that anything in this game has a scientific explanation. it exists.
Sometimes being a scientist means going down the most absurd paths and disproving them.
I totally agree!! but we'd all be running around like headless chickens if the answers to these clues were just based on random theories.
Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 12:28 pm
SeekerX
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slinkydge wrote:
it would be wrong of JJ to use or link to clues that we were unable to work out in a scientific manner, as such, otherwise the answer would be based on theory, then everyone has a different theory.
so we have to assume that anything in this game has a scientific explanation. it exists.
You probably did watch "Lost" and read the Fuselage I assume, as we all here seem to be Abrams fans or at least addicts . In Lost they often had clues that were not really scientific. Like the voices-behind-the-whispers, the "cerberus" itself, and the
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heart of the island
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OK, it was made by the whole team of Bad Robot. But hey, he's the boss.
He does like to mix science with fiction/myth imo. But that's cool with me.
Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 12:48 pm
Euchre
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Abrams has made a fair number of Biblical and other religious references over time. He seems to like to tie them into science as an unknown that's related to something known. The 'divine mandate' to the truck driver could be explained in a roundabout scientific way as the not yet scientifically proven idea of telepathy, emitted even in a crude way by our creature. If our creature is crudely telepathic, the distress may have been just a crude call for help, more subliminal to our driver than an explicit imperative. If you wonder why the train might not have experienced such, consider that the AF may know of that capability and taken measures to be sure the train crew is in some way immune to such telepathy. To the average Bible Belt truck driver, a sudden mental image or imperative to stop a train is likely to seem more like a mandate from God than a secret military train with an alien inside.
OT: We need a pet name or two for our creature. Someone ought to start a thread about it.
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Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 1:01 pm
Eleven72
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Euchre wrote:
OT: We need a pet name or two for our creature. Someone ought to start a thread about it.
Done! http://forums.unfiction.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=29688
Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 2:28 pm
FilmEdge
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Joined: 21 May 2010 Posts: 645 Location: Burbank, CA
Nice work, Eleven.
Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 4:35 pm
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