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ComptonAssJohn
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 		The newspaper is not real. We know this because the JFK speech is printed out of order.

PostPosted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 4:14 pm
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Melodyman
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 		Isnt the golden triangle meant to be part of everyday photo techniques? I mean, its what you are supposed to strive for in pics and art etc.. no? So, if true, perhaps its not out of place there.. perhaps.. Confused

PostPosted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 4:16 pm
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slinkydge
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Melodyman wrote:
Isnt the golden triangle meant to be part of everyday photo techniques? I mean, its what you are supposed to strive for in pics and art etc.. no? So, if true, perhaps its not out of place there.. perhaps.. Confused


you are spot on!! it also applies to aspect ratios in movies and loads of other stuff!!

I've been saying this for days!

PostPosted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 4:19 pm
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K-hole
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Roy Jones wrote:
If you use numbers on the musical scale (a-g), 1 and 8 are the same letters (An octave). Hence, every 1=8 in notes and every 2=9. Hence, 16180339=caccbeedd (or other combinations depending upon which letters you start with.

caccbeedd
dbddcffee
eceedggff
fdffeaagg
geggfbbaa
afaagccbb
bgbbaddcc

The word "poppeteers" follows this pattern except for the "e" between "popp" and "teer" and the final "s". So, poppeteers could be written using numbers 1618(E)0339(S!). "Rocket" would be 96 (CK) 30.

I'm just thinking right now, but wanted to let everyone know my thoughts. Maybe 96.30.1618.0339 is our ip? Or my missing numbers can be translated into something else...


That's not a valid ipv4 address mate. Those comprise of four comma delimited octates in the form of xxx.yyy.zzz.aaa representing the network and host bits portions. I was inclined to follow that slinkydge's suggestion of converting phi binary form:
1•10011 11000 11011 10111 10011 01110 01011 11111 01001 01001
to a 32 bit ip address. Since each octate must be represented by 8 bits eg. 0110111.0110111.0110111.0110111, ergo lies the problem. Working out the binary math on the phi using something called a binary header we get:
(1) 40 48 54 46 40 28 24 62 18 18
Now the http protocol uses standard ports 80/8080 however one can set their web page to run off of virtually any random port (with some reservations) from a server, making the website only viewable through the use of that port eg. http://192.168.1.1:4555 in effect hiding it from the normal audience. If anyone wants to elaborate on the matter any further please be my guest.

PostPosted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 5:20 pm
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Melodyman wrote:
Isnt the golden triangle meant to be part of everyday photo techniques? I mean, its what you are supposed to strive for in pics and art etc.. no? So, if true, perhaps its not out of place there.. perhaps.. Confused


Yes, The Golden Triangle, THe Golden Ratio, THe GOlden Spiral (All based on mathematical formulas) , are used in art/photography and film.

I posted some info on this a few days ago -

http://forums.unfiction.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=29657&start=330

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Quote:
Just wanted to bring up something that might (or might not) be relevant.

Although the Golden Ratio is a mathematical formula , it is also used as a method of artistic visual composition, developed by the Greeks.

For those not familiar -
Visual art, such as photography, illustrations, and film, employ what is known as "Composition".
It is basically a method of arranging objects in the image so that they have the best, most fluid, most appealing placement for the viewers eye.
The Golden Ratio also happens to be a mathematical formula that is the most commonly used methods of composition. An amalgam of math and nature. In art it is commonly known as The Rule of Thirds.

If you ever watch a movie or look at a painting or a photo you will often see that the main characters face or the object of main interest is usually placed off center to the upper left or right, or off center to the lower left or right. THis is based on the Golden Ratio method of composition (The method is also often combined with the Fibonacci Sequence to create what is known as the "Golden Spiral".)

THe golden Ratio basically pinpoints the 4 best locations to place the object of main interest on an illustration or photograph etc.

Example -

http://fmphotocourses.blogspot.com/2006/10/advanced-composition-and-golden-ratio.html


Maybe the Golden Ratio is intended to be used on an image (Rocket Poppeteers news article, or maybe on the loaded pages of the scariestthingieversaw PDP-11 emulator...Or maybe an image which has yet to be released.)

...One of the 4 points may give the location to something of importance.


THe Rocketpoppeteers page art actually conforms more to the GOlden Ratio, rather than the Golden Triangle.
Golden Triangle should technically have a visual element that runs diagonally all the from one end to the other (Basically devidin g the image into a triangle).
The Poppeteers art only has a diagonal element which crosses about 1/3 of the image.

PostPosted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 6:17 pm
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 		hey guys.
i've been following this thing the whole time and i thinkm i may have something.
the golden record was cariied and and broadcast into space on/from voyager, and one of the planets that voyager visited was saturn, and in the poppeteer articles the 6th pop/rocket is trying to get to saturn.
now, i was originally thinking that this recording on the pdp-11 was the alien response to voyager, but then i thought that the recording is maybe the WOW! signal which was received on august 15th, 1977, but then of course the date on the pdp-11(02/02/77) suggests otherwise.
i dont know.
heres something else(maybe).
the university of california-berkeley launched serendipII , which was their second SETI project, and this began in 1986.
anyways Dan Morris said that the USAF was shooting down UFO's deliberately and that the aliens would retaliate. 1986 is when the challenger bleww up and J. smith was it's captain. his name is in the R.P. newspaper. maybe challenger was blown up by aliens??
anyways thats what i got.
you guys are super smart and this is really cool.
thanks.

PostPosted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 9:20 pm
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chuggachuggawoo
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 		also, seven crew members on the challenger, maybe there is an 8th??
"a who is 67?" type thing

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 		Permaybehaps this has already been covered... but maybe the ninth tone is related somehow.

PostPosted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 11:00 pm
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v37
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chuggachuggawoo wrote:
hey guys.
i've been following this thing the whole time and i thinkm i may have something.
the golden record was cariied and and broadcast into space on/from voyager, and one of the planets that voyager visited was saturn, and in the poppeteer articles the 6th pop/rocket is trying to get to saturn.
now, i was originally thinking that this recording on the pdp-11 was the alien response to voyager, but then i thought that the recording is maybe the WOW! signal which was received on august 15th, 1977, but then of course the date on the pdp-11(02/02/77) suggests otherwise.
i dont know.
heres something else(maybe).
the university of california-berkeley launched serendipII , which was their second SETI project, and this began in 1986.
anyways Dan Morris said that the USAF was shooting down UFO's deliberately and that the aliens would retaliate. 1986 is when the challenger bleww up and J. smith was it's captain. his name is in the R.P. newspaper. maybe challenger was blown up by aliens??
anyways thats what i got.
you guys are super smart and this is really cool.
thanks.


Great ideas Smile Welcome Chuggachuggawoo.

PostPosted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 1:01 am
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Froid
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 		I tried to analyze combination of the channel.
apparently the noise in both channels is exactly the same, but the notes are not.
Su substraction cancel the noise, but the notes remain.
attached the file with a LEFT-RIGHT
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 4:33 am
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gefenm11 wrote:
I tried to analyze combination of the channel.
apparently the noise in both channels is exactly the same, but the notes are not.
Su substraction cancel the noise, but the notes remain.
attached the file with a LEFT-RIGHT


Wait..what?

The notes are not the same from the left channel to the right? I was fiddling around with the left and right channels the other day but never really listened to them independently.

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Froid
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Tracker_56 wrote:
gefenm11 wrote:
I tried to analyze combination of the channel.
apparently the noise in both channels is exactly the same, but the notes are not.
Su substraction cancel the noise, but the notes remain.
attached the file with a LEFT-RIGHT


Wait..what?

The notes are not the same from the left channel to the right? I was fiddling around with the left and right channels the other day but never really listened to them independently.

the notes sound the same, but the phase is different.
The noise phase is the same, so it gets canceled.

PostPosted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 6:25 am
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 		Let my try to explain this.
Gefenm11, from what I understand you inverted the phase of one channel and then combined/mixed it with the other channel. What is left then is the difference in sound between the two channels.

I attached a pic from Wikipedia to make it a little clearer. The left one shows two waves (the lower ones) that add to each other to result in the upper wave. The right shows 2 waves that "extinct" each other because they are of inversed nature.

In our case the original noise is exactly the same on both channels. If you invert one and add it to the other, the sound "extincts" itself and only what is different comes out as the result. In our case some portion of the notes are different in the quality of their frequencies over time. That does not mean they would be really different in pitch or speed.

Overall, cool idea. I'm just not sure what to think about that aspect of the noise being the same on both.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 7:30 am
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 		I think, that the noise is the same because it was added after generation of the notes.
can anyone do spectral analysis on the sound i posted? maybe we can see some additional information there.

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gefenm11 wrote:
I think, that the noise is the same because it was added after generation of the notes.
can anyone do spectral analysis on the sound i posted? maybe we can see some additional information there.

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