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MensVenatus
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Wait; got something here; not sure what it means yet

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lock_and_Dam_No._15

Dam seems to be about a mile west of the memorial bridge

Nearest park seems to be Bechtel Park, which doesn't seem noteworthy. Not far is Antione LeClaire Park, which has a memorial to Bix Biederbecke (famous jazz musician).

anyway, I'm exploring from here

http://maps.google.com/maps?near=Lock+and+Dam+No.+15,+Davenport,+IA+52801&geocode=Cf6HxVx_49XCFROGeQIdRwea-ikVt1ndfTPihzHvW9tS4tBj1g&q=iowa+memorial+bridge&vps=3&f=li&sll=41.520178,-90.576525&sspn=0.01854,0.036778&ie=UTF8&hq=iowa+memorial+bridge&hnear=
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courtknee
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MensVenatus wrote:
Wait; got something here; not sure what it means yet

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lock_and_Dam_No._15

Dam seems to be about a mile west of the memorial bridge



That could be it. "LND15" "parks".

Not sure how many of us got the message. I did and I saved it but the only difference in mine from McFly's is that my message just says "parks".

I'm wondering if some people received different codes in their voice mails but are unable to understand them.

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ninjaPhilanthropist
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My message didn't say lnd or parks, just the zip code
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Courknee, that could certainly be Lock and Dam! They're common along the Mississippi…

If we look at a map of the Mississippi and find the Locks and Dams with parks nearby, we're sure to encounter some that match previous clues!
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Sweet! So MensV got us on the right track. Now we just need to narrow it down to a more specific location. McFly mentions the possibility of 'forgotten clues'. Maybe we need to recap everything we have so far.

Parks closest to the dam are:
Centennial Park
Leon "Bix" Biederbecke Memorial

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The Oakdale Memorial Gardens are also pretty close to L&D 15... They're not actually in a park, but are right around the corner from Garfield Park?

http://www.recreationparks.net/IA/scott/garfield-park-davenport

There's also a minor league baseball park in the shadow of Centennial Bridge, but I don't see how a memorial would fit into it, so maybe not. Interestingly, though, the name of the park-- Modern Woodmen-- is also the name of an insurance firm whose timeline looks awfully morbid. I doubt it's connected, but still cool to find Smile

http://www.modern-woodmen.org/Public/AboutUs/History/Timeline.htm

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MensVenatus
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All right, eyes are crossing, time to pack it in. McFly suggests we look at lock and dams with parks near them, and see if any seem to match up with any old clues in any way. There is a list of the L&D's here
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_locks_and_dams_of_the_Upper_Mississippi_River

but nothing leaped out at me. So I went thru all posts back to page 20, and the clues that seem like they still might have some juice in them are pretty few...

- The I on the side of the doc with the dots; I for Iowa, or something else?
- Never really sorted out what the 3 towers are
- Still something about "their sin" that seems awkward to me, making me wonder whether there is something more to it
- Still not sure what the choice is going to be; 2 locations, but which 2?
- "See past the motives of those among you working against you"; presumably someone (or 2 people I think she said earlier) are working to keep us confused (in which case there are succeeding mightily); not sure what to do about it though
- Tank #489731? From the security memo; just a random number?
- Something we missed in Jamie's letters?

Maybe explore L&D15 in more detail and something will crop up? I looked at streetview off both ends of the memorial bridge looking for 3 towers, but no luck...
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MensVenatus wrote:

- "See past the motives of those among you working against you"; presumably someone (or 2 people I think she said earlier) are working to keep us confused (in which case there are succeeding mightily); not sure what to do about it though


I keep going over this in my head. We only have (to our knowledge) McFly and Lucinda communicating with us.

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MensVenatus
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Crap; think I have something but need sleep. Courtknee, look at this and see if thi makes sense; maybe they aren't towers but mine shafts. And doesn't that I remind you of the I on the sheet with the dots????

http://www.isgs.uiuc.edu/maps-data-pub/coal-maps/topo-mines/coal-valley.pdf
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Our choices are up. We've gotta vote on 'em
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To me, more of the clues point to Bix Biederbecke Memorial park than the Lock and Dam 14. However, that could be the point.

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Yeah, it's a case of they know what we know, and we know they know what we know, so what exactly do they want us to know? And I think what they mean by people feeding us info is some of our fellow forumites
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ninjaPhilanthropist wrote:
Yeah, it's a case of they know what we know, and we know they know what we know, so what exactly do they want us to know? And I think what they mean by people feeding us info is some of our fellow forumites


I pondered that too. I'm feeling schizophrenic now.

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Me too. The paranoia element has made choosing impossible. I feel like Vizzini from the Princess Bride.
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At http://ourwaterplanet.wordpress.com/2010/07/08/mapping/

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48 hours. That's all the time we have left to find Connor.

I haven't gotten a wink of sleep the past few nights as I've combed through the clues Lucinda has left us. I've ended up with two possible locations where Connor could be found–just like Lucinda said.

The clues we had:

"I"–found in the memo. I'm still not sure what this means.

"bridge"–one of Lucinda's drawings in the reflection

"Mississippi"–hidden in Lucinda's drawing

"memorial"–spelled out with the Aguatero Smiles campaign

"L&D"–short for Lock and Dam

"15″–a specific Lock and Dam mentioned in Lucinda's message for me

"parks"–mentioned in Lucinda's message

"Davenport"–found through a zip code mentioned in another call received from Aguatero Industries. This could mean specifically in the city Davenport, or nearby in Iowa, or even a name for something else.

I combined all of the clues to the best of my ability and found two possible locations for Connor Arter. Click on the markers on the map to see the reasoning behind each.


then a map, then a poll.... 48 hours? I chose.

I also want to point out that I sent Lucinda an email asking if there was anything else I needed to do as Pres, but no response. I kind of hoped I would have been utilized a little more (dividing sides or what not) but I understand I was away from the game for a week-ish or so, so it would have been hard to. Just FYI - I haven't hid anything from you guys, I just haven't been asked to do a lot.
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