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Tron Legacy on Twitter!
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Re: Tron Legacy on Twitter!
Re: flynn_lives

Phylos wrote:
wow! how did it stay hidden for so long??

By making no tweets and following no one?
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search it (the flynn lives tweet) in google's cache... found out that it was a fan's account, this is the cache: Google cache link

then as per you can see right now at that address, ownership of the tweet page might have changed recently... hence the different layout and style of writing...

Linkified forum stretching URL - E

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chuwawa wrote:
search it (the flynn lives tweet) in google's cache... found out that it was a fan's account, this is the cache: Google cache link

then as per you can see right now at that address, ownership of the tweet page might have changed recently... hence the different layout and style of writing...


Linkified forum stretching URL - E



thats the other account...i have a feeling since the other page hasnt been touched since it was created..( and the powers that be over at Twitter have just made it visible)..it wouldnt have a webcache. The one you pulled up did because there has been activity...

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Or it could just be that nobody found anything at @flynn_lives because it didn't exist there until recently. It's easy enough to change your twitter username, so an old account can suddenly appear at a new address.

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New Tweet: Q: #Flynn invented some of #Encom's best-selling games. What were they called? #tron

I answered quickly - and flustered, and got a couple wrong, so I resubmitted w/ correct w/in 3 minutes... we'll see

[edit] by "correct" i mean the 4 games on the post cards
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swift360 wrote:
New Tweet: Q: #Flynn invented some of #Encom's best-selling games. What were they called? #tron

I answered quickly - and flustered, and got a couple wrong, so I resubmitted w/ correct w/in 3 minutes... we'll see

[edit] by "correct" i mean the 4 games on the post cards
Hate to break this to you, but there are 13 games. They're all listed here: http://www.encominternational.com/catalogue.htm
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VanGoghX wrote:
swift360 wrote:
New Tweet: Q: #Flynn invented some of #Encom's best-selling games. What were they called? #tron

I answered quickly - and flustered, and got a couple wrong, so I resubmitted w/ correct w/in 3 minutes... we'll see

[edit] by "correct" i mean the 4 games on the post cards
Hate to break this to you, but there are 13 games. They're all listed here: http://www.encominternational.com/catalogue.htm


Yes, but it said some, so I just gave those four.
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VanGoghX wrote:
swift360 wrote:
New Tweet: Q: #Flynn invented some of #Encom's best-selling games. What were they called? #tron

I answered quickly - and flustered, and got a couple wrong, so I resubmitted w/ correct w/in 3 minutes... we'll see

[edit] by "correct" i mean the 4 games on the post cards
Hate to break this to you, but there are 13 games. They're all listed here: http://www.encominternational.com/catalogue.htm


Were those all Kevin's?

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Space Paranoids, Vice Squad, Matrix Blaster & Light Cycles. I obviously need to watch the movie again.

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mattw3 wrote:
Space Paranoids, Vice Squad, Matrix Blaster & Light Cycles. I obviously need to watch the movie again.
I saw that tweeted answer as well. Is Light Cycles a separate game? We've never seen a logo for Light Cycles. And how are we supposed to know which games Flynn programmed? I wonder if this is leading somewhere...
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VanGoghX wrote:
mattw3 wrote:
Space Paranoids, Vice Squad, Matrix Blaster & Light Cycles. I obviously need to watch the movie again.
I saw that tweeted answer as well. Is Light Cycles a separate game? We've never seen a logo for Light Cycles. And how are we supposed to know which games Flynn programmed? I wonder if this is leading somewhere...

If I remember correctly, I think it's somewhere in the dialogue of the first movie when Flynn is ranting about how his games were stolen. This just looks like movie trivia so far... but we'll see.

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Kevin's rant rattles off several names, and he refers to 'a whole slew' of games. He also says that all of the games he designed were stolen by Dillinger and presented to Encom as his own work, with the very same names. The implication at least is that every game Encom released was originally designed by Kevin Flynn.

Mind you, this is all from memory. I shall review the DVD later if I need to amend any of the information presented here.
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You're referring to this scene (bold mine):

Quote:
Alan Bradley: You invented Space Paranoids?

Kevin Flynn: Paranoids, Matrix Blaster, Vice Squad, a whole slew of them. I was this close to starting my own little enterprise, man. But enter another software engineer. Not so young, not so bright, but very very sneaky. Ed Dillinger. So one night, our boy Flynn, he goes to his terminal, tries to read up his file. I get nothing on there, it's a big blank. Okay, now we take you three months later. Dillinger presents Encom with five video games, that's HE'S invented. The slime didn't even change the names, man! He gets a big, fat promotion. And thus begins his meteoric rise to - -what is he now? Executive VP?


Apparently Dillinger stole Flynn's five newest video games he was still developing? Flynn may well have invented other ENCOM games (since we have more titles), but he got credit for them to some extent.

This would make sense in Dillinger's amoral corporate mindset: Kevin became THE programmer to rip off due to his success on earlier games, then Ed stole his newest, latest, greatest before Kevin could present them.

So in effect Flynn likely developed ALL the popular ENCOM games, but Dillinger only stole the last five before kicking Flynn out of the company. The difference being which Kevin got credit for... until he exposed Dillinger's theft. And we know Kevin returned to develop new games after the movie's events... until he disappeared to kick it up a notch. Smile

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You are making quite a lot of assumptions from that dialog. What I see is that Kevin mentions 3 titles and speaks of a 'slew', which I wouldn't call 5 a 'slew'. Dillinger presented 5 games initially, we know this. We don't know for sure if or when he presented them with more. I'll have to review, but I don't recall a mention of how long before the events of the film the theft of the games transpired. Something that I do recall being implied was that Encom hadn't really been a game software company before Dillinger presented Kevin's games as his own. One definite implication was that Kevin didn't necessarily intend to share his games with Encom. Of course back then, companies didn't necessarily have the clauses they do now about anything you create during work time and/or using the resources or other basis of company property being the property of the company.

What I find interesting about this 'quiz' is that Light Cycles was being played at the start of the film, as if it were its own game. According to the information presented in this ARG, the game Tron was not written until after the events of the film. In the real world, the game Tron is where we find the Light Cycles game - not as a stand alone. In the film's world, we don't see Discs of Tron, which was a stand alone real world game.
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Euchre wrote:
You are making quite a lot of assumptions from that dialog. What I see is that Kevin mentions 3 titles and speaks of a 'slew', which I wouldn't call 5 a 'slew'. Dillinger presented 5 games initially, we know this. We don't know for sure if or when he presented them with more. I'll have to review, but I don't recall a mention of how long before the events of the film the theft of the games transpired. Something that I do recall being implied was that Encom hadn't really been a game software company before Dillinger presented Kevin's games as his own. One definite implication was that Kevin didn't necessarily intend to share his games with Encom. Of course back then, companies didn't necessarily have the clauses they do now about anything you create during work time and/or using the resources or other basis of company property being the property of the company.

What I find interesting about this 'quiz' is that Light Cycles was being played at the start of the film, as if it were its own game. According to the information presented in this ARG, the game Tron was not written until after the events of the film. In the real world, the game Tron is where we find the Light Cycles game - not as a stand alone. In the film's world, we don't see Discs of Tron, which was a stand alone real world game.
Oddly enough the Hi-Def version of Tron was on last night (twice!) and I watched a couple of minutes while letting the DVR capture the whole thing.
The first game we see being played is apparently Light Cycles. At least right above the games monitor on the left side it says Light Cycle and to the right it says Score. The games cabinet looks like Tron with the same joystick. The graphics look like Tron (the light cycles segment) except for the sequence when the bikes are going diagonally. We don't get to see the side or the marquee of the cabinet. Just some text written above the monitor.
Remember, this game is being played before Flynn even enters the world of Tron.
Makes me wonder what game segments are included in that universes Tron game, if Light Cycles existed already as a separate game.

EDIT for more clarity: It's right at the beginning of the movie in Flynn's Arcade. Someone's playing Light Cycles and it starts out as standard Tron light cycles (the bikes are moving up, down, left and right). Then we see the light cycles moving diagonally. It's written right above the monitor. I'd assume that is the name of the game itself. Odd that we never see the full cabinet of this game. Nor do we see the logo for a Light Cycles game at the ENCOM site. I'd never suspected it was a separate game before this Twitter trivia answer, but it makes all the sense in the world.

EDIT cuz I'm an idiot: You already said all of this when you said "What I find interesting about this 'quiz' is that Light Cycles was being played at the start of the film, as if it were its own game." I'm ultra-slow this morning. Embarassed I should have been bothered to read your second paragraph before going on my mad typing spree!
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