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jrc
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A couple more locations

Thank you for your excellent transcript and summary, fellowtraveler. I have a bit of hearing difficulty, and reading the lips of puppets is a nonstarter.

I have a couple more locations to add to the list. There were additional "codes" as loosely defined by the pirates.

Mulligan says he is going to the highest point on the ship, which would be the crow's nest. There are two possible interpretations. One, the highest point in the park, Summit Rock. Two, Sheryl Crow gave a concert July 23rd at the Rumsey Playfield. Ordinarily I would pick the first, but the recent date of the concert makes it a good possibility.

The footprints suggest the logo of Central Park Walking Tours (three bare footprints). The outlined footprint also resembles a bit either the Conservatory Water or Turtle Pond.

Tom's numbers are also probably an additional location. If taken as four-digit numbers, as he seemed to speak them, they are all six thousand something. 62nd and 63rd streets are nearby. New York does not follow the convention of some other cities, however, of making the address numbers 100 times the street number. Still, there might be a connection. By the way, are you sure that the third digit of the second group of four is "go" or 5? To my poor ears, it sounded more like "ku", which would not be a digit, I know, but anyway not like "go". It was not the same as the last digit, "kyu" or 9 either.

I think the the "window sill/sele [sic]" was probably something too. I had assumed a spelling of "cell" for some reason, maybe it seemed appropriate for pirates. It also suggested a code to me, I guess. Mulligans other clumsy code, "switching C and P" might really be something more subtle too, I think. They seemed to emphasize it.

The Captain's favorite rock is probably also a location.

I was wondering if practically everything, including the repartee, might be codes for locations, or at least inside jokes. A possibly random item from http://www.riverdance.com/htm/accessallareas/on_tour/theboyne/2007_diary12.htm:

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Eight former cast members from Riverdance are now performing with The Pirate Queen, so it was great to catch up with them after the show. Former Riverdance Irish Dance Director, Carol Leavy Joyce is also a choreographer, which makes for a number of Riverdance connections.

I do not think that only the last location will matter. For one thing, they are retracing their steps. The method is trying to find a misplaced item that was lost somewhere along a route. Apparently they didn't notice exactly where they dug a hole, instead it was more like leaving their glasses lying on the coffee table on their way from the bedroom to the kitchen. So potentially any location along their route is the location of the treasure. But probably each location will contribute to a final answer in some way.

Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 11:19 am

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jrc

Did you read my post that is right before yours? Just checkin. I think the Captain on the rock with Totty going missing in the flashback and the mention of crow's nest leads us to the clue to the "word" we need which is a location I found on the walking map. Check it out.

Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 11:26 am

jrc
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Grouping of locations

tammyrichards might be right that the locations are all along a path, with something missing. Certainly all the locations fellowtraveler cited were in the SE corner of the park, and could be along a path in that order. The "highest point" clue seemed pretty definitely there, however. Summit Rock is a long way from the other locations (83rd street, west side of the park). The Rumsey Playfield is much closer, but still not along the path of the others. Without knowing what tammy picked up on as the missing location, I can't be sure, but I would not be at all surprised if it is not missing at all, but simply encoded in a way not noticed yet.

So since the other locations are so close, is there another interpretation to the "highest point" or "crow's nest" clue that is a nearby location?
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Yes, I noticed that, tammy, though I read your post after posting mine. So since it is "encoded" there, why do you say it is "missing"?

Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 11:33 am

jrc
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Totty

By the way, I found a fascinating reference that I am almost sure is the source of "Totty". It is too good to spoil, maybe I'll reveal it later. It is obscure, but maybe there are other reasons Totty is at least a little famous in NYC. From what you said, tammy, I don't think it is what you found, but it confirms your interpretation I believe.

Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 11:43 am

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To JRC

I believe from doing other hunts that we are looking for a cumulative message spelled out with 8 words. One word derived from each of the episode clues. We are looking in this case for a location on the walking trail map of Central Park. The location can be easily found as it is a rock in Central Park that is on the walking path. If you start at entry to the park at Wallach Walk and go to Balto, then to Willowdell arch (which is the cave the Captn mentions before going to the cape of Shakespeare and Columbus rock) Note: then on the map you walk past the statues in the mall area past Shakespeare statue and Columbus statue, then the Dairy, then the video has the missing location or rock the Capn is standing on in which he loses Totty, (note the location and that it is a flashback mind you), then they mention "back to the armies" which it he Grand Army Plaza as the exit of the park. Follow it yourself and you should have no problem coming up with the first word or rock location on the map. Wink

Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 11:44 am

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Totty

When does he "lose" Totty? Totty seems to be in his hand the whole time. There are a lot of locations on the path that are not mentioned, and based on my map they pass at least three rocks that are not mentioned anywhere in the video...

Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 12:34 pm

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Re: Totty

sneakyd wrote:

Sorry I guess he is. I thought Mulligan took him but you are right. LOL. My bad. I think this is still the missing link we are looking for though.

Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 12:37 pm
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Re: Totty

sneakyd wrote:

The rock I mean is the one after the Dairy on the walking path as it is when the video goes to the flashback of the capn on the rock after mentioning the dairy, if you watch it and follow along. The additional clue of the crow's nest should help you figure out what rock. Hope that helps.

Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 12:40 pm
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http://www.centralpark2000.com/database/wallach_walk.html. Here is the starting point if anyone is interested. It is after the zoo.
http://www.centralpark2000.com/maps/map_58.html Here is the map I used also.

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please remove

Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 12:42 pm
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Final clue?

So basically your theory is that the location of the Captain during the last flashback (regarding Totty) is the missing location on the path of the gold?

The rock he is on is likely Overlook Rock which is near the Pond in Central Park. It is called Overlook Rock because it overlooks the Pond to the West and East Drive to the East.

Click here to see a Google Map I created which shows the path of the gold as evidenced by the clues revealed so far. I haven't added Overlook Rock as a stop yet because I'm not sure if there is complete consensus that it is an actual clue/destination. However, if it was an actual destination that would make it so that there were eight clues total this first week, which works nicely with the idea that there are eight episodes.

Incidentally, I agree that the Mulligan never actually steals Totty from the Captain. Instead as I noted in my transcript, it looks to me like Mulligan just runs by the Captain carrying something, and is holding that same object when they exit out of the flashback. The Captain later shoots the object out of Mulligan's hands. I had assumed that the object was a shiny metal spyglass due to its shape and Mulligan's reference to going to the highest point on the ship. On further review of the video however, the object almost looks like an unlit torch because it has a red cloth wrapped around it and Mulligan sort of carries it like an Olympic runner as he passes the Captain in the flashback.

It is too bad that nobody seems to be paying much attention to the game so far. From the NY Times article it sounds as if the puppetmasters have really put a lot of their heart and soul into it. I hope the energy around the game picks up as it goes on.

Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 1:07 pm

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Yes that is what i think but I made the correction that Totty was not missing. That was misinterpreted by me but I still think that is the rock the captain is on and with the additional mention by mulligan of crow's nest I think that "Overlook" fits as my first word. You all can go with what you want but that is my observation. Good luck to you all.

Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 1:12 pm

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Re: Final clue?

Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 1:16 pm
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Re: Final clue?

fellowtraveler wrote:

I do not think this google map resembles what I remember. Can you recheck it? I thought it was in kind of a circle.

Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 1:19 pm

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I suppose if that is on Wallach Walk, then it is a possibility. I thought it came from the zoo but apparently it goes up above balto so i guess it could start from above and come down.

Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 1:25 pm

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