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[39C] The 39 Clues
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sapagoo
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 		Re: Platinum
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jjcoolj wrote:
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CarrotCahill wrote:
Wasn't Platinum already a Clue, jjcoolj?

It was!
Clue # 36
The new Mexican President (and top Tomas Agent) Benito Juarez, hid the Clue in the National Palace in Mexico City, where it remained for centuries. The Clue remained hidden until I found it!


That was LEAD!!!!!!!

Now you are confusing two of our Central/South American clues.
Lead is # 29
Tomas agent Simon Bolivar vanquished the Spanish forces in Latin America, and brought a Clue to Venezuela. Bolivar arranged for the Clue to accompany his corpse wherever it went. The clue remained hidden in the National Pantheon in Venezuela until I found it!

There is a list on the wiki, with handy links to the 39Clues.com page.
http://various.wikibruce.com/39/Clues
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sapagoo
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The thing I don't get is there was still a man in black in the picture in book 1. And that has to be the the picture in all the books.

I think this was the original vesper.

Ok, maybe it was before that. But how do you know the exact dates?

It can't be because the fire happened in 1507
Who says? Where in the books does it say that? 24 generations sounds like a long time. Where did 1504 come from?

It has to be around 1490 since in book 9 it says that Madeleine Cahill wrote a messeage in 1507 and she had to be at least a teenager to write that neatly.
P.S. You wrote 1504 not 1507.


The timeline lists the Fire as 1507.
http://various.wikibruce.com/39/Timeline

It references pages 194 in Maze of Bones, and 106-107 in The Sword Thief.

In addition, the Top Secret for Card #99 Katherine Cahill, has Gideon dying in 1507.
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 		The Vesper's: AudioBook Nine: Bonus
I just downloaded and listened to audiobook nine yesterday.

The bonus is really quite interesting. Here's the transcript, with some of the un-important points left out.

William McIntyre and The Man In Black (Fiske Cahill) are having an emergency meeting (permitted by code 4.3 chapter 23) to talk about the induction of Amy, Dan, and Nellie into the Madrigal branch.

They said it was quite a risky move to make Nellie an official Madrigal, and they would've liked to have observed her more, but they needed every member they could get, and Amy and Dan needed someone they could trust.

They then start worrying, and talking about how the final task will push them "to their limits, if not beyond:"

They say Amy and Dan are tougher than they had imagined; perhaps they would surprise them again.

Mr. McIntyre says how the hunt has made Amy and Dan much more confident, and Fiske says, "They'll need more than confidence to succeed in...England."

Mr. McIntyre responds, "Do you really think it's possible. Can anyone really unite the branches?"

Fiske: "They must, or else, it's over. For us, for the family, for the world..."

Mr. McIntyre, "I never knew you were so prone to melodrama, Fiske."

"You know what will happen if the children fail, William, or did you think Grace was simply being paranoid when she changed her will. The VESPER threat is real. We're running out of time."

They then talk about how Mr. McIntyre was always there for Grace, and how Fiske had made a lot of mistakes in his life.

That leads to Fiske saying, "I know. I made mistakes in my past. I only hope I can be more useful to Amy and Dan, then I was to Grace."

Mr. McIntyre, "You're the reason they're still alive. There were so many close calls."

Fiske, "But I may not be able to help them this time. I can only imagine what Isabel Kabra is planning. The Lucian's are so close to finding all 39 clues and I know she won't give up without a fight."

Note: We know Isabel to be a Vesper (she had a V on her charms, and her maiden name is Vesper-Hollingsworth)

Mr. McIntyre, "What if she knew the truth; the real reason the competition had to happen now?"

Fiske, "I think Isabel knows more than we think."

Mr. McIntyre, "You're not suggesting that Isabel! ..."

Fiske, "I think there are secret's in Isabel's past we never dared to imagine."

Mr. McIntyre, "What do you think Amy and Dan will do when they discover the truth?"

Fiske, "(sighs) I don't know. They've proved to be enormously resilient, but..."

Mr. McIntyre, "It's one more secret Grace hid from them."

"Precisely."

"Well, all we can do now is wait...and hope."

"We've been waiting and hoping for more than five hundred year's. It's not enough anymore."

"That's what the children are for."

"Yes...the children..."

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 		Re: The Date of Gideon's Death
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muje wrote:
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muje wrote:
ginji wrote:
muje wrote:
The thing I don't get is there was still a man in black in the picture in book 1. And that has to be the the picture in all the books.

I think this was the original vesper.
Borderick Wizard is V. That obviously means Vesper. And Fiske didn't tell them everything. Why wouldn't he tell them about a rival family? I think the vespers are the side effects. I don't know, but if this (probably not) means anything: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sicilian_Vespers I think the Vespers are experiments. Lab rats. Since I don't feel like reading the whole thing, it says they rebelled against the French king in 1282. When was the fire again. 22 generations back was it? That must have been more than 800 years ago. So what if that French king was a Cahill. And the Vespers, their lab rats, wanted revenge. And he found all the Clues. They wanted it. And it got lost again.

Ok, maybe it was before that. But how do you know the exact dates?




It can't be because the fire happened in 1507
Who says? Where in the books does it say that? 24 generations sounds like a long time. Where did 1504 come from?





It has to be around 1490 since in book 9 it says that Madeleine Cahill wrote a messeage in 1507 and she had to be at least a teenager to write that neatly.
P.S. You wrote 1504 not 1507.


Perhaps when she said, "In the year of our Lord 1507, a terrible fire" she was referring to the fact that the fire happened in 1507, not that the message written in 1507.

That seems to be the most likely, considering other evidence suggests Gideon died in 1507, such as in books 1 and 3, and Katherine's family tree (on the back of card 99), where it say's "Gideon Cahill (1460-1507)..."

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 		Sorry, Sapagoo
sapagoo wrote:
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muje wrote:
- wrote:
muje wrote:
ginji wrote:
muje wrote:
The thing I don't get is there was still a man in black in the picture in book 1. And that has to be the the picture in all the books.

I think this was the original vesper.

Ok, maybe it was before that. But how do you know the exact dates?

It can't be because the fire happened in 1507
Who says? Where in the books does it say that? 24 generations sounds like a long time. Where did 1504 come from?

It has to be around 1490 since in book 9 it says that Madeleine Cahill wrote a messeage in 1507 and she had to be at least a teenager to write that neatly.
P.S. You wrote 1504 not 1507.


The timeline lists the Fire as 1507.
http://various.wikibruce.com/39/Timeline

It references pages 194 in Maze of Bones, and 106-107 in The Sword Thief.

In addition, the Top Secret for Card #99 Katherine Cahill, has Gideon dying in 1507.


Sorry, Sapagoo, didn't notice you had already answered this.

PostPosted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 2:27 pm
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 		Re: Platinum
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sapagoo wrote:
jjcoolj wrote:
sapagoo wrote:
CarrotCahill wrote:
Wasn't Platinum already a Clue, jjcoolj?

It was!
Clue # 36
The new Mexican President (and top Tomas Agent) Benito Juarez, hid the Clue in the National Palace in Mexico City, where it remained for centuries. The Clue remained hidden until I found it!


That was LEAD!!!!!!!

Now you are confusing two of our Central/South American clues.
Lead is # 29
Tomas agent Simon Bolivar vanquished the Spanish forces in Latin America, and brought a Clue to Venezuela. Bolivar arranged for the Clue to accompany his corpse wherever it went. The clue remained hidden in the National Pantheon in Venezuela until I found it!

There is a list on the wiki, with handy links to the 39Clues.com page.
http://various.wikibruce.com/39/Clues


Well SOREE.

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 		Re: Platinum
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Anonymous wrote:
sapagoo wrote:
jjcoolj wrote:
sapagoo wrote:
CarrotCahill wrote:
Wasn't Platinum already a Clue, jjcoolj?

It was!
Clue # 36
The new Mexican President (and top Tomas Agent) Benito Juarez, hid the Clue in the National Palace in Mexico City, where it remained for centuries. The Clue remained hidden until I found it!


That was LEAD!!!!!!!

Now you are confusing two of our Central/South American clues.
Lead is # 29
Tomas agent Simon Bolivar vanquished the Spanish forces in Latin America, and brought a Clue to Venezuela. Bolivar arranged for the Clue to accompany his corpse wherever it went. The clue remained hidden in the National Pantheon in Venezuela until I found it!

There is a list on the wiki, with handy links to the 39Clues.com page.
http://various.wikibruce.com/39/Clues


Well SOREE.


I don't have clue 36.

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yugonacopo
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 		Book 10 and clues
Does anybody know any secrets of book 10? And what is it with this the39clues.com/thetruth? What is that? And who here has the most clues?

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Wind Lane
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 		Re: Book 10 and clues
yugonacopo wrote:
Does anybody know any secrets of book 10? And what is it with this the39clues.com/thetruth? What is that? And who here has the most clues?


Nobody'll have the book 10 clues because it isn't out yet. the39clues.com/thetruth is a small teaser excerpt from book 10. And most of us have 38 clues - the 39th will come either with book 10 (which seems likely) or with mission 10 on the website (which isn't a bad second guess, though I think it'll be about getting the family back together or how to make the thing the 39 clues is for).
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 		Re: Book 10 and clues
yugonacopo wrote:
Does anybody know any secrets of book 10? And what is it with this the39clues.com/thetruth? What is that? And who here has the most clues?


Book 10 appears to reveal the identity of the Vesper's, unite all the branches, combine there clue's, and destroy them, to re-unite the family.

The audio bonus of book nine (which I posted a transcript of), makes it very clear that "the Lucian's are so close to finding all 39 cluse" and "the Vesper threat is." They say they're running out of time against the Vesper's, and that England would be the toughest challenge for Amy and Dan, that they think there's little hope.

Obviously, Amy and Dan will succeed (they wouldn't have the series end with the Vesper's or the Lucian's getting all the clue's and ruling the world).

http://the39clues.com/thetruth is obviously an excerpt from book 10. I interpret the blacked out lines as meaning that Amy, Dan, and Nellie find out about the truth of the clue hunt (or at least part of the truth) if you lift up the black (pages 25 and 27, by the way).

I have 38 clues, but I know many other's who have the same amount.

If you mean the clue's in the clue hunt, I did a tally based on the description's of the clue's and the card's. However, it's impossible to know for sure, as many of the branches have stolen the other's clues:


Ekat: 8
Tomas: 7
Lucian: 8
Janus: 6
Madrigal: 14
Vesper: 20

Note: I calculated the Vesper clue's by that they know of the seven original Madrigal clue's (because Arthur was a Vesper), all the Lucian clue's (because Isabel is a Vesper), and all the Janus clue's (Broderick Wizard is a Vesper).

However, in the book 9 audio bonus, it's says the Lucians are close to finding all the clue's, and hints that the Vesper's do, as well. Of course, the card's and clue description's only say so much; the clue's have been stolen and found by the other branches, so that is probably significantly off, but I'm pretty sure the Vesper's have the most clue's, followed by the Lucian's, followed by the Madrigal's, followed by the Ekaterina, followed by the Janus.

Hope this helped!

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 		have you ever thought that this mix could be toxic considering it has both uranium and lead in the mix.

Also L+E+T+J=M from book 8 may say that madrigals have the full mixture in their DNA.

bytheway I am a Lucian with 38 clues.
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Finbar55 wrote:
have you ever thought that this mix could be toxic considering it has both uranium and lead in the mix.

Also L+E+T+J=M from book 8 may say that madrigals have the full mixture in their DNA.

bytheway I am a Lucian with 38 clues.

I thought it was L+E+T+J=Cahill.
(Chapter 5. page 27, according to someone who's uploaded too much of the book to the internet.)

But you are right, it does sound toxic.
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 		We thought the cards with the Cahill Symbol were cahill cards but really they are madrigal. They both share the same shield and calligraphy.
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 		I gotta do something soon, so I'm gonna say this fast.

Book ten is about
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Shakespeare, definitely. The clue is most likely in or near Big Ben, but idk


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 		Re: Book 10 and clues
yugonacopo wrote:
Does anybody know any secrets of book 10? And what is it with this the39clues.com/thetruth? What is that? And who here has the most clues?


Well, in book ten i heard on facebook that
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Isabel Kabra tries to blow up amy and dan and isabel dies falling off a cliff. That was posted by a guy who somehow got the book in china.


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