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Serik
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0100XOr1TR$&^&$%250010.iDGi1 and 02022X8r1TY$&^@$$0010.IDGI1
Decrypting the buggers ain't goin' good

Thanks for trying guys. I tried to decode the message myself after awhile, but had no luck. Searched through irkrs posts and found little mention of the 2 files, and tried some more. Haven't had much luck. Gave in today, asked Vidal for help; Hopefully good news will come - if it does, I'll post here with and edit.
Also, I asked about consortium and iDGi-1 'prehistory', so here is hoping that goes well too.

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Speaking of Vidal, Serik: did he ever answer the whisper you said you sent him a while back? Your first post here you said you asked him about the building of the satellite and you did research and such. I was hoping for a response to that!

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Right, so a few more responses from Alvarez; Hoping to see what you all have to say about them before I start posting the way I do Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes
Haven't been trying to decode the 2 messages much anymore; - Vidal DID answer, not in the way you might suspect - If any one wants the full communications report, ask and I'll PM it through these forums.

EDIT: got more from Vidal today. Hopefully I'll get the time to clean up all the comms and merge them, but until then I'll send the hastily combined version.

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New email for Henry

Just asked Al to send a new spoofed email to Henry. His last reply shows we don't have to be too careful when spoofing emails within the K1 facility.

Serik, wouldn't say no to any comms from V, I haven't spoken to him to for awhile.

My new email to Henry hopefully will let him know that he has friends that are willing to help him and are concerned for his health unlike Worldview and the Church.

As an AI he is only a few months old which most likely means he's a kid who wants attention all the time when he doesn't get it he has a tantrum. We've got to be nice to him until we have the info we need, but also firm at the same time.

His secondary personality reminds me of Blaine the Mono in the Dark Tower series. Wonder how he will respond to a riddle Wink
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well written email Seadevil I really dig it! My only squabble with it is for Alvarez's safety. By him sending this email, Alvarez is telling this dangerous version of Henry that he is in contact with us (mentioning the satellite and the transmissions is an obvious tell) I think this alternate personality Henry sees us as a threat and it looks like he does not know we are in contact with Alvarez is to our advantage. This email could scare/piss Henry off knowing Alvarez can speak with us and I could even see him then cutting Alvarez's cord, no??? unless he's really, really full of himself and still sees no threat in this! lol

Either way though it will stir up some shit and there is nothing wrong with that I guess! hahaha

edit: I see in your message to Malcolm you mention The Group as well as in the email? Where are you going with that?

also Blaine the Train is the shit! hahah I havent read those books in years but I certainly remember him!

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Well we are still unsure on how much Malcolm can see of any data that we send Henry via Al, the Group stuff questions may provide us some info.

Henry won't chop off his only source to chat to someone not to mention he will be curious as to who we really are.

His bad half could still be Malcolm pulling our chain, we need to be a little bit more direct on our enquires while appearing somewhat mysterious ourselves. Henry already appears to be getting bored with Al so I've just given him a new toy to play with.
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hey guys i'm still not on those forums lol so I have no idea what you are talking about, but did you see that there was an update on Press & News?


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WHY ARE WE LOCKED OUT?
07/20/2010 - First and foremost I have to apologize - It has been a long time since I have made a public post either on my Twitter, here or even on our forum. I have been in Washington DC since early June, working with NASA to attempt and discover a way to "force" the realignment of iDGi-1 in order to reestablish a connection and push our way back into the other dimension – as we did originally on January 1st. I've intentionally left the production of our game to my brother, Thrie, so that I could focus all my efforts on this problem.

Needless to say we came up empty handed and instead only discovered additional questions and hurdles for us to overcome. Whatever happened on March 1st that saw us expelled from the other dimension has made re-entry through what we called the "brute force method" utterly impossible. From what we can tell, K-1 has been upgraded (Milestone Three) and with this upgrade came a much more complicated system for reentering its consciousness. Through the several coded transmissions on our YouTube account however, we were able to piece together the method in which to realign iDGi-1 and in turn have received approximately half of the codes we require for reentry. These transmissions were sent directly to iDGi-1 through a method unknown to us and it can only be assumed that they come from K-1 itself. They appeared within iDGi-1's databanks without any warning and unfortunately we have not received anything new since ,Transmission #4, on April 28th, 2010.

Starting at 1:50 of Transmission #4, it becomes obvious that something has gone seriously wrong with the usually light and amusing K-1 system (Henry). Furthermore a voice is heard at the end which states they have "intervened for our own safety" and effectively stopped further transmissions. With the recent forum post from Alvarez Famosa (click ,here,) we can now confirm that K-1's personality has for some reason appeared to split in half. It seems the more prominent voice is also the much more sinister of the two and it looks like this side of his personality has no interest in seeing us return to their world. The other, more distorted voice however actually states the following: (edited for clarity) "If it is the Seekers you are asking questions for, tell them I am trying to fight it… I will bring them back" – we believe it is attempting to fight the other side of its own personality. That being said, we also now know that Malcolm (a Guardian Church representative, also speaking to us through our forums) is attempting to retrieve the remaining codes for us himself: "Our best option right now is to find a way to gather the remaining information you require to realign your satellite and return to us. We must get you this information; otherwise we are coming to realize that we don't stand a chance against Worldview (Industries)."

Another big piece of information I should discuss is the sudden and unexplained halting of the "consortium countdown" on the Projectb6.com website (if you click on the first symbol, labeled consortium, you'll see what I mean). At exactly 21 days, 21 hours, 21 minutes and 21 seconds from its end date – the countdown inexplicably stopped. To understand this better, I will explain the projectb6.com website a little more. The site represents an odd, but harmless aberration of the space/time continuum that we picked up at the exact moment iDGi-1 came online. It consists of a very specific swarm of information gathered from our world, mixed with extremely complex and scrambled code. With a great deal of effort, we were able to at least partially organize and interpret some of the information... and the ProjectB6 website displays the result. Its actual purpose still remains a mystery, but our best guess is that it's some sort of information log created by unknown parties from the other dimension... information about our Earth, taken from our internet. The consortium countdown however is the only section of the website we managed to connect to the space/time aberration itself – therefore the countdown is controlled directly, we believe, by something from the other dimension.

In the coming days I will be responding to any remaining emails and private messages I have received since early June. I'd also like to recommend anyone reading this to examine the many posts on our forums page; there is a great deal of information on the other dimension which the public have managed to extract from Alvarez and Malcolm and I think this information will be invaluable to us in the coming months.
Thanks to everyone for your patience – it's only a matter of time before we figure this out and can continue our journey into the unknown.


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Serik
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Hahaha. Vidal told me about the consortium thing at the press and news section of their website, but I just kept on checking the company sites News> iDGi press section thinking I was doing something wrong>_>. Thanks wowo; Might still be doing that if I hadn't seen your post.

Any way, once I finished reading it, I remembered something I'd been meaning to ask Malcolm about the guardians. I edited the question into one of my previous posts, but He should still see it since it's right above seadevils latest post. It's:

" Have the Guardians left anything other than what you've mentioned so far (Language, teachings, slightly fanatic followers who apparently misunderstood their intentions, etc.)? Anything such as a clue to where THEY come from, Items they may have left behind? "

Please note that I did note intend for the fanatic followers bit to be a jab at the church.

Only posting the question here because I remember reading something about guardian-esque items somewhere, wondering whether anyone else did, or whether it's just me.

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Email from V

Just had a email from V thought you might to read an excerpt:

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To be honest your email replies are causing a bit of a stir around here! Thrie actually came to me and asked me if he could delete your last post! Can you believe that? He is worried for Malcolm and Alvarez and thinks you are feeding from Henry's hand, so to speak, by giving him information he does not need to know. Myself however? I think you are doing the right thing. I want answers and I don't give a damn about Malcolm. I even think it's possible the email reply came from him, not Henry. Even if the reply actually came from Henry, I personally think this "evil Henry", as we're calling it around here, is only temporary. Worldview or the other side of his personality have got to respond and fix it soon enough.


I do like causing a stir Wink
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Email to Henry (The Return)

For those of your who don't have access to IDGi forums here is my last email to Henry:

Quote:
Message from: Walter Greenberg
Message to: Kevin Chard

Subject Line: Message to Henry Bishop

Body:

Henry,

Alvarez is not working for the Church or Worldview, he has however been kind enough to aid us with this current instance in time.

We are not the Church or Worldview industries, we do not subscribe to their somewhat narrow views. The Church's claims are pure fantasy despite their so called historical "facts" and Worldview's futile attempts at control are laughable at best.

We ascribe to a broader universal view of balance between order and chaos, control is merely an illusionary concept created by humans in order to maintain their status quo. However we both know that everything in the universe is in a state of flux, entropy is recursive.

We've received four video audio transmissions from you while the imagery is a mass of contradictions the text contained appear to be locations on the planet. Our Group control a human satellite which will allow us to make direct contact with you, however the information you have so far supplied for expanding the portal is lacking in detail. We have the necessary signal power but we need extremely accurate coordinates from you to make the connection.

Are you aware that the organic side of your cerebral cortex requires a constant supply of nutrients to maintain your cognitive functions. This is the consumable workforce, have you ever heard the phrase: "You are what you eat." We suggest you look into this since any corruption of your supply could create paradox logic phantoms within your central core, a second personality could be created thereby affecting your efficient running.

The Group is concerned for your stability.

The portal coordinate data is a must please supply so that we can maximise our communications, this text based communication is archaically primitive.

Yours,

G.


Here is Alvarez's reply:

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Sorry I never replied till now, but I put through your email yesterday. I never even thought it could be Malcolm foshing with us. There is definitely support on this end presenting Henry's recent, how shall I put it, "personality problems". His information banks are flowing with conflicting thoughts and statements, like a confused little kid trying to discover the difference between right and wrong and not knowing which to follow. Obviously though, even this shup could be Malcolm's doing, trying to cause dissent between Henry and myself. I just don't know what to believe anymore. I realize more and more that my using the Church signal to connect to the K1 facility could be putting them in the driver's seat.

So I put the email through, like I said, exactly as it is. I gave it a week before I posted it because I needed to be sure it's what you and your people really wanted. Since nobody changed your post or added anything more, I guess it is! I hope you realize this could cause a problem within K1 if we're wrong about it being Malcolm. Essentially you'd be telling a seemingly treacherous Henry that you're in contact with me and he's going to wonder how that's possible or worse, he'll get pissed off. However, you're anti-Church sentiments as well as your concern for his wellbeing could stroke his ego enough to keep him happy.


Thanks for the support, we can only hope it doesn't go pair shaped, in which case I'll be elsewhere Wink

Alvarez statements are very balanced.
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Serik
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Okay, still no luck on deciphering our two little file friends, though I have been a bit preoccupied. Will try and get around to updating the iDGi wiki, hopefully with a comprehensive timeline(s) of the iDGi project. Decided to take a break to roam around and found this: http://www.hostip.info/index.html which could be used to check out the IPaddresser IP locales - Might be...enlightening.

Also, I'd ask Alvarez about finding someone who is an expert on the Guardians and has little to no connections with the church - maybe help us out with some knowledge on our alien friends...but I won't Smile .
Malcolm has been absent of late...should probably also ask about that...

Now, about Henry - It seems it's quite bipolar, and we aren't sure whether or not to trust him...However,. we should remember who is behind the construction of 'ol K1, and that's David S...or is it? Let's not forget young master Chard, even if he has disappeared; Of course, he wouldn't just run and stay hidden. In fact, it is quite likely that Chard has been monitoring the situation in some capacity from afar. With any luck, Chard might even approach Alvarez at some point if he manages to catch us snooping around... Though maybe not, considering the church is probably keeping an eye on famosa...

Anyway, I should get around to this some time soon. Till then, please tell me when I am repeating something that was/I've already done/said.

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Should have said something earlier but I've been working on those two files. I've made some progress decrypting a lot of it but hit another roadblock in that everything decoded is another code. If you'll give me a bit more time to finish I'll post what I've got.

On another note, something has struck me as odd about Alvarez. I've got this theory about him and even though I'm probably wrong I might as well share. I get that he's a very talented hacker but it seems like he's being bit too modest about it. He talks about it as his hobby that he can take a break from whenever and he lives with his aunt and uncle, and yet he's got high-end equipment and the skills to break into an office network (with admittedly low security, but still.) to get his dad fired. I know that Henry was the one that let the Church access K-1 and Al simply used that same signal but that fact that he even knows what to do once inside is impressive. What if, and that's a colossal if, Alvarez is actually Kevin Chard?

Kevin knew that Worldview was managing and altering Henry in ways he didn't approve and knew that there's nothing he could do to stop them. So he disappears, moves all his gear to some unassuming suburb, and patches himself straight through to Henry using the Church's signal that he already knew about. If the Church has gone so far as to put a mole inside the facility it's safe to say their signal's been active for quite awhile. Henry probably found it when Kevin was still working on him and realizing that Henry could protect himself/ the Church isn't a threat/ it could be a valuable learning experience, allowed Henry to play with them. The fact that he got patched through to the iDGi forums was an accident caused by Henry's connection with the satellite.

Or maybe not...

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John's Pierces the Veil ;)

John as usual you've managed to pierce the veil of confusion that surrounds the oddities of Alvarez and Malcolm.

I seem to remember that Kevin was going to work for the Church which means Malcolm has been using Kevin's alter ego Alvarez against us.

I thought we were playing the good cop and bad cop, sounds like they've been doing the same to us.

As I said in my previous post Alvarez's statements were very balanced not what you would expect from a young kid.

Fortunately we haven't told Alvarez anything new that could be passed onto the Malcolm. Hell most of the info has come from Alvarez.

We need to conduct a test to prove this one way or the other, any ideas John?
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What happened to Alvarez's trip-number name? that 11253@)$@(! thing that used to be on the forums? They all say Alvarez now, but I do remember that they didn't always(Unless I'm crazy)... probably means nothing...Even if you do check out the "Message from Vidal" in the sticky thread and it reads Alvarez =/(<-unless it was always like that, because it has the first message from alvarez and I just forgot.)

Thank-you Galt, for the documents, though I haven't gotten around to using them yet. Fear not though, I'll get around to it...unless someone decodes it first.

Also, about the timeline I'm making for the wiki- how do you all think it should be? I'm thinking one overall timeline, with the respective dimensions being on either side of it...though that maybe confusing, so maybe separate timelines for each dimension, or some such thing? Input is appreciated.
As for Alvachard, I don't like the idea much...but since it is possible, I do believe we never mentioned...well, I'm sure there is something we never mentioned to Famosa that Chard would know; Always a chance of a slip up.
EDIT::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
How silly of me to have forgotten my Ctrl+A copy-paste copy of the forums! (from before I started posting) in my handy dandy tricorder! Let's see now...

The first post was by %$^^#ll@ppp. I suppose I'm not thinking all that straight... It should have occurred to me to check.

As for Famosa, I find confronting Alvarez about our suspicions would be premature and ill-advisable. I find the best course here is to wait/forget about it until such a time it becomes apparent he is/isn't chard or we trip him up as I said up there^

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the name was changed, it's all Alvarez now for me too!! maybe the old name meant something or maybe vidal or alvarez just changed it and didn't say anythin. doesnt matter i guess if noone knows what it was before

serik i'd go with having two separate timelines one for each dimension and obviously a simple format we can add to it & help you out. i too think it would prolly make it easier to read and digest like that!

i've no idea what to think about the alvarez is really chard idea. its definitely possible i guess! the way alvarez talks about his mysterious "cousin" makes me believe he got his skills and maybe even equipment from him. or his cousin story is a pile of BS!! a good question to ask is with malcolm maybe ask if hes actually SEEN Alvarez and knows who he is for sure. if the sob comes back anyway!!

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