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[Norrior]

[GuestanGaems]

RE: It's from Alex or Jay or TTA
God I hope not. But it would be pretty funny if it turned out this was just a really stealthy intro to MH2, with the production being completely outsourced to another group in order to continue the charade.
But I really doubt it.

Anyways, I'm certain this tape is from Milo, and contains some of the footage we saw in Submission 6. As for who delivered it... I'm doubting it's Tribe!Slendy, who I'll call Großman to differentiate from [the operator]. If anything, it's probably Tribe!TTA, who I'm still pretty certain is going to be Milo having either faked his own death or arranged for this before he died.

Now, time for conjecture! Let's look at what the bits on screen say. We can reasonably assume both "I"'s are the same person. Further, I hypothesize that "He" and "You" are not the same. But who are they?

If "I" is Noah, unconsciously affecting the video with psychic powers or perhaps editing it afterward and not realizing it, then he's worried about someone knowing something. Going off my previous guess, let's assume "He" is Milo, who knows what Noah did. They're good friends, so Milo obviously knows Noah quite well. Milo was running around with Noah's camera for quite a while, who knows what he maybe found on an old tape. Or, perhaps the note ties into it, and Milo saw Noah do something by the river (perhaps at night, remember the night boardwalk shot from Submission 6?). In this case, "You" would be the Großman, since his pic shows up afterward. In this world, we know he hunts bad children, which Noah would probably fall under depending on what Milo found out.

On the other hand, what if "I" is Noah, "He" is the Großman, and "You" is either Milo or some unknown third party? The Großman knows what Noah did, and is... what, watching him? In this case, "I will wait for you" indicates Noah wants "You" to come help him, perhaps? Hmmmm...

Let's try a different approach. "I" is an unknown third party (or, again, Milo) who's somehow hijacking the video, either hacking into Noah's computer or using strange methods to make the images and words appear on film. In this case, since the video belongs to Noah, "You" must logically be him. "I" is waiting for Noah to... figure out what the grab bag goodies are, I guess. And if "I" is unknown and "You" is Noah, that means "He" is the Großman, who knows that "I" is helping Noah. In fact, perhaps "I" isn't Milo, and is instead the same person who said "Milo could see" all the way back in the Analysis video. In this case, "I" is surreptitiously trying to guide Noah into... some role, who knows. Perhaps one that aids "I" against the Großman.

And finally, what if "I" is the Großman himself? I'm not certain I feel right with Slendermen of any kind having self identity, doesn't jive well with the facelessness. Sure, he's not always faceless, but he is in this series. Maybe I'm missing the subtext, and it's alright for him to have a proper First Person personality. So, let's say Großman is "I". In this case, things get complicated. "He" might be Noah, because Noah knows Großman is involved in Milo's... let's call it demise. But "You" might be Noah as well, "I will wait for you to... become what you were meant to be"? "For you to discover the truth"? "For you to grow psychically plump and tender for me to devour your fear better"? Something along those lines, perhaps. Or perhaps "You" is an unknown third party, who... the Großman needs to get involved in the proceedings before he can take action against Noah? I don't know, I don't like that interpretation very much.

Speaking of interpretations and not liking them, I'm feeling a little braintired right now. I think I'll look into the note more closely tomorrow, or maybe Thursday. Right off the bat it makes me wonder if maybe the Großman is not so eldritch as we think, as the implication I feel I'm getting here is that he's a ghost from the river. Which would be kinda lame, but hey, it would be different from Marble Hornets, eh?

[Seraphic Adonis]

...goddammit. What's with the influx of new people making me feel like a fool?

Judging from the placement of the text in the video (especially "He knows what I have done") I would assume that "I" is Noah, but it's entirely possible that it might be an unknown party sliding these things in.

[Grim Joker]

[GuestanGaems]

Yeah, I'm certain there's no official MH connection aside from their shared heritage. I was just saying, if the MH creators wanted to have a stealthy introduction to part two via other characters, better to have locals in another place produce it on their own to make it look totally unrelated until, holy crap, Noah's hanging out with Alex! Or whatever.

As for Slenderfaces, the earliest SM pics were just stretched out images of actual people, namely the Tall Man from Phantasm. Slenderman having some manner of distorted and inhuman face was also common, I remember one picture of Slenderman lurching up the stairs and distorting as he reaches for the photographer, and he had a horrible face. Truly unsettling. But I doubt "I" is the Slenderman here, he's all too often portrayed as the utterly silent type. So far in Marble Hornets and TribeTwelve, we haven't even seen any motive out of him, really.

As for Milo... I'm pretty certain we'll be hearing from him in some capacity in the near future, either via lost tapes or his journal. As for him being alive... it's just a theory I've been working for a while now. Admittedly, ToTheArk didn't show up for a good long time in MH in any capacity, but I have a distinct feeling "TribalArk", we shall call this individual, is the one who delivered the box, perhaps who scrawled all the graffiti on the tower, and other tricks like that. And even though it's still too early to speculate (after all, didn't even see Tim until, what, Entry 7?) I've just got a feeling TribalArk is Milo.

[Grim Joker]

I really hope there isn't any actual ToTheArk character in TribeTwelve. They have a ton of material to go off of, yet they continue to mimic MarbleHornets.

[Barto]

[Rodion Romanovich]

A collaboration with MH is probably not going to happen. But what about EMH? Their "Better call Noah!" Twitter was obviously a part of their flood theme, but I'd be surprised if it wasn't also a reference to TribeTwelve. Maybe that's all it was, but it might be something to look out for.

I've also been thinking over the hidden messages. I'm not sure if I've come up with anything new, I've just tried to narrow it down a bit.

"He knows what I have done" is placed on the right, where Noah is sitting. There's also a drawing of a tentacle-less Slender Man. This is all Noah's seen at this point - a faceless man in a suit. I've thought over all alternatives, but everything seems to point to the idea that this is Noah speaking (or thinking, or projecting). Noah's done something, and he assumes that the faceless man in a suit, who stalked Milo two years ago, knows about this, and that he's now after him. Again, this is Noah trying to make sense of what's happening. I don't think Slender Man knows or cares what Noah's done.

"I will wait for you" is placed on the left. There's a drawing of a betentacled Slender Man. This could mean that someone else is speaking, someone with more intimate knowledge of SM. Maybe SM himself, although I agree with GuestanGaems in not liking that theory. This leaves us with a possibly not dead Milo, or an Unknown Third Party (I'll give them the benefit of the doubt, and not call him TribalArk... yet).

There's a distinction to be made between Milo and UTP. Although their friendship obviously wasn't strong enough for Noah to drive Milo to the airport, or even follow him to the door, they were still friends, so Milo could be assumed to want to help Noah. "I will wait for you" should then be taken as reassuring. After all, the lines about "the soul awakening when the dawn breaks" seem quite benevolent.

On the other hand, we know nothing about a possible UTP:s intentions. "I will wait for you" would then be more ambigous. This UTP could, of course, be Milo, who's joined the Slender side.

Anyway, we know that someone left Noah a box, so obviously someone more is involved. If Milo is dead, there must be a non-Milo UTP. If Milo is alive, there could still be a UTP (I guess that would technically make it a UFP). My guess at this point is that this "someone" is waiting for Noah behind the door that the key belongs to. And if I were to guess who that someone is, I would say... Karl.

A name that, by the way, contains the letters A R K.

[GuestanGaems]

[Docjowles]

Although it would be cool, I think you guys are really reaching with these MH/TT/EMH crossovers. They said "Better call Noah" because it's a flood reference pretty much anyone born in the last 4,000 years would get. Karl may contain ARK but ToTheArk does not contain an L. I'd love to be wrong and have this become some epic national collaboration, but unfortunately I think you're looking for connections that aren't there.

[Grim Joker]

[Slendery]

Oh, you helpless conspiracy theorists!
There has been no really hard evidence of a crossover, so I'm not worried.

[Miriku Nuva]

While a nationwide crossover would be spectacular, I don't think it's going to happen with any combination of these three. The styles are too different, and each one of them is good enough to stand on its own, despite any inevitable storytelling/acting flaws. Unless something way down the road catches us all totally off-guard, I'm happy with the three video tales being stories of their own. xD

[evilblackbunny]

[Negroid]

Perhaps...
Those frames mean nothing at all and are there soley so we can waste time waiting for the next videos.
I know if I was making a slendervlog (which I won't for several reasons, primarily the fear I'd undoubtedly get while making them would be overwhelming), I'd cut corners like that.