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fezzik
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 		fascinating
I find Hatshoe fascinating, both in its surface content but - I must admit - even more so for the meta issues involved. This hobby seems littered with folks who expect - no, crave - short-term attention. I'm not speaking just of the players but the PMs. But here is Mr. Shoe, many moons later, still plugging away. I admire his tenacity and commitment to the art, and I would dearly love to reward him/her/it with some solves. For one thing, I genuinely am curious about the story.

But I am too...stupid? busy? lazy? to figure anything out. I've tried, believe me, but nothing comes of it. Ah well.

PostPosted: Tue Sep 14, 2010 1:07 am
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LOLwat
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 		I think that it'd be fun to solve this, or solve part of it to get onto a new part, just to see what happens next. I mean, there's got to be something more & obviously he wants things to be solved, or else he wouldn't be continuing on with the site. Hell, it's all good to have a hobby, but obviously this is real devotion, considering no one has really done anything for a while & he's still going.

maybe there's something really big coming?

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airportdisco
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ohwat wrote:


the vids with the dust mask aren't him, that's another user & person entirely.


derp. my bad. my head was somewhere else.
anyway...was going through the Diespiter video frame by frame. found it interesting where he decided to cut throughout...seemingly always right as something is happening.
anyway, at 0:19 just before he pops in and says "hello ?fenced?", here are the last three frames:

Thoughts?[/img]

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some meximelt
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 		@Thethirdunseen seems to enjoy plagiarism,

"That is not dead which can eternal lie. And with strange aeons even death may die"- Call Of Cthulhu by H.P. Lovecraft.

Reading that, I doubt the validity of him being truly related to hatshoe or it seems that the originality hit the breaks here.

PostPosted: Tue Sep 14, 2010 8:15 pm
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some meximelt
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 		To add to this mea culpa translate to "my mistake" or "my own fault", it seems weird to put blame on a quote from fiction.

It seems that all of his tweets refer to works of fiction with expansive personas and truth in the subconscious. So I'm getting that we have to find the underlying theme within all of his posts up till now, the most consistent idea in as many of them as we can.

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some meximelt
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 		I'll email him about this.

PostPosted: Tue Sep 14, 2010 8:33 pm
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airportdisco
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airportdisco wrote:

anyway, at 0:19 just before he pops in and says "hello ?fenced?", here are the last three frames:



so i sent him that image with the added text "Who is your friend, friend?" and got this as a response:

Quote:
A different friend appears.
He is not mine.
You may have noticed an unnoticed.
The sixteenth of Jupiter, for one.
He does not travel with the full spectrum.


I'm not sure how to take it.
Either he's saying I've noticed something previously unnoticed, which is good....or he saying I noticed something that wasn't put there intentionally, which is bad.
Either way, the sixteenth moon of Jupiter is Sinope. I tried every combination (jpg, gif, even txt thinking "not full spectrum") but turned up nothing.
If we consider Terminus (which translates to Jupiter) to be the planet Jupiter and go through the images as if they were moons, "m.jpg" is the 16th and last.
So either he's saying there's something important in "m.jpg"...or that people are noticing unimportant things in m.jpg.
I don't know man.
Also, I could be wrong, but has the html text on terminus changed? It says "It can."

EDIT: Okay...just found something really interesting....
Besides the hatshoe.org logo at the bottom, m.jpg has no color profile. It's grayscale...no matter what you do to the contrast/brightness, hues etc, you can't get color information out of it. So that's "outside the full spectrum". And it seems to be the only image on the site as such. As to what it means, still wrapping my head around it.

PostPosted: Tue Sep 14, 2010 10:05 pm
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airportdisco
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jphizz wrote:
I wish I were clever enough to come up with something like this!
I noticed how hard you all have been working to figure this out.
You've all put so much time into this that I would feel bad just spitting it out at you.

Spoiler (Rollover to View):
I think it would be best if you thought more widely. Broaden your horizons. Think outside the box, if you will.


also...just a thought..."Probably" contains both a box and, just outside it, the word "Horizon".

PostPosted: Tue Sep 14, 2010 10:55 pm
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LaAura
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 		[quote="airportdisco"]
airportdisco wrote:



so i sent him that image with the added text "Who is your friend, friend?" and got this as a response:

Quote:
A different friend appears.
He is not mine.
You may have noticed an unnoticed.
The sixteenth of Jupiter, for one.
He does not travel with the full spectrum.


I'm not sure how to take it.
Either he's saying I've noticed something previously unnoticed, which is good....or he saying I noticed something that wasn't put there intentionally, which is bad.
Either way, the sixteenth moon of Jupiter is Sinope. I tried every combination (jpg, gif, even txt thinking "not full spectrum") but turned up nothing.
If we consider Terminus (which translates to Jupiter) to be the planet Jupiter and go through the images as if they were moons, "m.jpg" is the 16th and last.
So either he's saying there's something important in "m.jpg"...or that people are noticing unimportant things in m.jpg.
I don't know man.
Also, I could be wrong, but has the html text on terminus changed? It says "It can."

EDIT: Okay...just found something really interesting....
Besides the hatshoe.org logo at the bottom, m.jpg has no color profile. It's grayscale...no matter what you do to the contrast/brightness, hues etc, you can't get color information out of it. So that's "outside the full spectrum". And it seems to be the only image on the site as such. As to what it means, still wrapping my head around it.


"Diespiter" is also another name for Jupiter, so the 16th of Jupiter could simply mean the 16th second of the "Diespiter" video. If look, there is a dark shadowy figure on the wall that vanishes. I thought it was just hatshoe's shadow before I watched it this time around.

PostPosted: Wed Sep 15, 2010 12:41 am
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some meximelt
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 		ok I'm back, and feel like a total idiot from this response he gave me, but also enlightened.

I sent
Quote:
Hello, Mr. Hatshoe.

I noticed your interesting website a few ago and must say that it's really intriguing, you've astounded me with your collection of notes and "journal" entries.
Although, that isn't what I'm getting to here. I've read many past tweets of @TheThirdUnseen and noticed some recurring themes within them. I noticed un-cited references to
"The Call of Cthulhu" by H.P. Lovecraft and Walt Whitman's "Leaves of Grass", which hinted at an expansive persona and the truth in subconscious. Now due to the nature of these tweets, I've been left with the notion that perhaps the answer was right in front of us and we were too busy looking what wasn't in order to solve this dilemma. Then again, I might be farther off then they. I thank you for reading.


He sent:
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Kind Souled Friend,
The fact that I have no idea who the hell that is
May not be relevant
To be thrice blind is not the problem
There were only two so far
That I noticed, anyway
You will see quite plainly
When you do see
Not that they aren't both obscured
But even so, those aren't
The main issue
As one tried to point out and challenge
Curious that he hides now
For a while I wondered if he was allied
With the one who sent the videos


I probably haven't read through this entire topic, so I may have not read someone stating that @TheThirdUnseen was just like @SovietPremier, and now feel retarded.
So now we have find out "Who sent the videos" This probably means the videos on his site are not his, nor did he take them.

PostPosted: Wed Sep 15, 2010 12:51 am
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airportdisco
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some meximelt wrote:
Quote:
Kind Souled Friend,
The fact that I have no idea who the hell that is
May not be relevant
To be thrice blind is not the problem
There were only two so far
That I noticed, anyway
You will see quite plainly
When you do see
Not that they aren't both obscured
But even so, those aren't
The main issue
As one tried to point out and challenge
Curious that he hides now
For a while I wondered if he was allied
With the one who sent the videos


I probably haven't read through this entire topic, so I may have not read someone stating that @TheThirdUnseen was just like @SovietPremier, and now feel retarded.
So now we have find out "Who sent the videos" This probably means the videos on his site are not his, nor did he take them.


I could be wrong here, but it seems to me he's saying that the other twitter accounts and the video responses have nothing to do with him.
If the Verumbris youtube were allied with the sovietpremier (who we know has nothing to do with him), then that would be a pretty safe assumption.
He's mentioned "challengers" in emails before...I think he's basically calling them out for trying to hijack the game and throw people off.
It's my humble opinion that the only reliable sources are hatshoe.org, @watcherofcarl, and wearerofthehat.

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exestential
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airportdisco wrote:
some meximelt wrote:
Quote:
Kind Souled Friend,
The fact that I have no idea who the hell that is
May not be relevant
To be thrice blind is not the problem
There were only two so far
That I noticed, anyway
You will see quite plainly
When you do see
Not that they aren't both obscured
But even so, those aren't
The main issue
As one tried to point out and challenge
Curious that he hides now
For a while I wondered if he was allied
With the one who sent the videos


I probably haven't read through this entire topic, so I may have not read someone stating that @TheThirdUnseen was just like @SovietPremier, and now feel retarded.
So now we have find out "Who sent the videos" This probably means the videos on his site are not his, nor did he take them.


I could be wrong here, but it seems to me he's saying that the other twitter accounts and the video responses have nothing to do with him.
If the Verumbris youtube were allied with the sovietpremier (who we know has nothing to do with him), then that would be a pretty safe assumption.
He's mentioned "challengers" in emails before...I think he's basically calling them out for trying to hijack the game and throw people off.
It's my humble opinion that the only reliable sources are hatshoe.org, @watcherofcarl, and wearerofthehat.


a thought occurs, maybe it's not just a game?

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airportdisco
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exestential wrote:

a thought occurs, maybe it's not just a game?


You mean you think it maybe be the actual ramblings of a time traveling stalker?

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Ripbane
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 		Same guy in that thread on /x/
Well, if this means anything, Sinope used to be called Hades (from the 50's to 1975) before given the official name Sinope in 1975. I would like to think that the figures coming out from under the bed are from the the underworld/otherworld. Possibly one of them being Hades himself. The farthest I can go with this is that it may be implying that the underworld/otherworld is either under Sinope's placement in space or under it's surface. Though, I doubt thats that case

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 		new WoC tweet:

Well Carl, I'll decide pretty soon. Regardless, I plan on seeing you quite often still.

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