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Release Time: 6:58

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releasedtgme wrote:
Release Time: 6:58


thanks?

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releasedtgme wrote:
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this is just what I anticipated:

6:58pm Sunday (EDT) - Sunset in New York, NY
1 hour 57 minutes from now

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releasedtgme wrote:
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So that would be 1858 in nautical/military time.

Clue?

No, that's just when the sun sets today in NYC.

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releasedtgme wrote:
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I don't wanna dig in the daaaaark! Plus a lot of parks close at dusk. Clever ye be, yeh pirates!

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Wish I was in NYC

But I'm in Maryland. Of course, being in Maryland is about the only reason I found one of the Clock Without a Face numbers. It certainly wasn't stellar reasoning.

For what it's worth, the only thing that has indicated to me that we ever got off the subway was the explicit reference in Episode 6 to the Captain and Tom getting off at the next port. If Episode 6 follows Episode 5 directly, then the "compass heading" clue probably means there are two adjacent stations on a NNW-SSE line, from the compass at the end of 5. But the last episode may modify that, and I have a feeling it will.

I have found some candidates where such stations are also near cemeteries. Some of those cemeteries are all Jewish, however, so I think the prominent crosses rule them out. A good match of the serpent is in Marine park, but that is far from any subway. Rather than an actual cemetery, I think the comic cemetery might be a reference to Gravesend. Marine Park is still pretty far from the subway there.

Then if you want to also be close to fortifications, it makes it harder. But they are not necessarily close, just "between" the pirates and their destination. Those fortifications are in a "zone". Ozone Park has been suggested. There is also a similarity to "Verrazano", where some British fortifications still are.

Then there is "the black gates of Hell" from Episode 7. Hell Gate is between Randall's Island and Queens, if I have that right. The Socrates Sculpture Garden is a little south of there. I found a mention of a giant snake sculpture there 16 years ago, but I guess no locals were able to scout it out for us.

Since the pirates are retracing their steps, it seems that somehow the path should be important, not just where they end up. In other words, we maybe should not expect the treasure to be at the last stop. Retracing your steps is typically what you do when you don't remember in what part of your path you lost something. If the entire path is important, clearly we have to figure out all the clues, and also which things are not clues. I don't think anyone, even those who think they have figured things out, would claim to have reached those standards.

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UDbmas wrote:
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Not to look a gift-horse in the mouth, but where did you get the releast time from?


somehow doubtful they'll answer you

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Re: Wish I was in NYC

jrc wrote:

Since the pirates are retracing their steps, it seems that somehow the path should be important, not just where they end up. In other words, we maybe should not expect the treasure to be at the last stop. Retracing your steps is typically what you do when you don't remember in what part of your path you lost something. If the entire path is important, clearly we have to figure out all the clues, and also which things are not clues. I don't think anyone, even those who think they have figured things out, would claim to have reached those standards.


This is something I've thought since the very beginning. That the actual course you take may itself be a clue. Not just where you end up. I had a brainstorm earlier and asked for anyone that had created a map and this is partially why.

Four years ago, a Brooklyn based Street Artist named "Momo" created the largest "tag" in the history of NYC Graffitti. He simply left an eight mile trail of paint that, when mapped, spelled out his name.

http://bestrooftalkever.com/post/973399556/have-you-ever-walked-around-in-lower-manhattan-and

I wonder if we should start looking at the courses themselves...



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Re: Wish I was in NYC

TrueBlueCityKid3 wrote:
jrc wrote:

Since the pirates are retracing their steps, it seems that somehow the path should be important, not just where they end up. In other words, we maybe should not expect the treasure to be at the last stop. Retracing your steps is typically what you do when you don't remember in what part of your path you lost something. If the entire path is important, clearly we have to figure out all the clues, and also which things are not clues. I don't think anyone, even those who think they have figured things out, would claim to have reached those standards.


This is something I've thought since the very beginning. That the actual course you take may itself be a clue. Not just where you end up. I had a brainstorm earlier and asked for anyone that had created a map and this is partially why.

Four years ago, a Brooklyn based Street Artist named "Momo" created the largest "tag" in the history of NYC Graffitti. He simply left an eight mile trail of paint that, when mapped, spelled out his name.

http://bestrooftalkever.com/post/973399556/have-you-ever-walked-around-in-lower-manhattan-and

I wonder if we should start looking at the courses themselves...



Yes i had the same thought if perhaps we mapped everything else there would be some sort of "X" but as we've all seen its hard to figure out what points are being referenced specifically beyond videos 1, 2 & 3.

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Re: Wish I was in NYC

CatsMeow wrote:
TrueBlueCityKid3 wrote:
jrc wrote:

Since the pirates are retracing their steps, it seems that somehow the path should be important, not just where they end up. In other words, we maybe should not expect the treasure to be at the last stop. Retracing your steps is typically what you do when you don't remember in what part of your path you lost something. If the entire path is important, clearly we have to figure out all the clues, and also which things are not clues. I don't think anyone, even those who think they have figured things out, would claim to have reached those standards.


This is something I've thought since the very beginning. That the actual course you take may itself be a clue. Not just where you end up. I had a brainstorm earlier and asked for anyone that had created a map and this is partially why.

Four years ago, a Brooklyn based Street Artist named "Momo" created the largest "tag" in the history of NYC Graffitti. He simply left an eight mile trail of paint that, when mapped, spelled out his name.

http://bestrooftalkever.com/post/973399556/have-you-ever-walked-around-in-lower-manhattan-and

I wonder if we should start looking at the courses themselves...



Yes i had the same thought if perhaps we mapped everything else there would be some sort of "X" but as we've all seen its hard to figure out what points are being referenced specifically beyond videos 1, 2 & 3.




I do have some ideas though..

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Re: Wish I was in NYC

TrueBlueCityKid3 wrote:

Four years ago, a Brooklyn based Street Artist named "Momo" created the largest "tag" in the history of NYC Graffitti. He simply left an eight mile trail of paint that, when mapped, spelled out his name.

http://bestrooftalkever.com/post/973399556/have-you-ever-walked-around-in-lower-manhattan-and

I wonder if we should start looking at the courses themselves...



That's funny. I was actually participating in a race around Tompkins Square Park today and saw that line of paint on the North side and wondered what it was. At least one mystery has been solved today!

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Re: Wish I was in NYC

CatsMeow wrote:

Yes i had the same thought if perhaps we mapped everything else there would be some sort of "X" but as we've all seen its hard to figure out what points are being referenced specifically beyond videos 1, 2 & 3.


This is what I was referring to with the "clue of all clues." Perhaps the PATH is what really matters - either because it spells something, makes some sort of X, or is a path that actually belongs on another map, indicating where to actually find the treasure. Who knows at this point though.

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Re: Wish I was in NYC

gttx wrote:
CatsMeow wrote:

Yes i had the same thought if perhaps we mapped everything else there would be some sort of "X" but as we've all seen its hard to figure out what points are being referenced specifically beyond videos 1, 2 & 3.


This is what I was referring to with the "clue of all clues." Perhaps the PATH is what really matters - either because it spells something, makes some sort of X, or is a path that actually belongs on another map, indicating where to actually find the treasure. Who knows at this point though.


I've been wondering about this, too. Given the scale of Central Park's clues, compared to the distance of any of our theorized subway routes, won't it have to look like a tiny squiggle (from the Central Park clues), a big long wavy line (while riding the subway), and another tiny squiggle (from the clues at the end)? It seems hard to make a picture with.

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Re: Wish I was in NYC

VelociraptorPancakes wrote:
gttx wrote:
CatsMeow wrote:

Yes i had the same thought if perhaps we mapped everything else there would be some sort of "X" but as we've all seen its hard to figure out what points are being referenced specifically beyond videos 1, 2 & 3.


This is what I was referring to with the "clue of all clues." Perhaps the PATH is what really matters - either because it spells something, makes some sort of X, or is a path that actually belongs on another map, indicating where to actually find the treasure. Who knows at this point though.


I've been wondering about this, too. Given the scale of Central Park's clues, versus wherever we hop off the subway and do a tiny bit of walking, won't it have to look like a tiny squiggle, a big long wavy line, and another tiny squiggle? It seems hard to make a picture with.


They definitely back track and some point and go another direction - just a matter of putting things in the right order with the clues that are actually clues and seeing what comes of it - Still processing in my head, but I think I'm getting somewhere.

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