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amandel
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Finally found Emma Murdock's blog http://ekmdiary.wordpress.com/ which Daniel had mentioned before he was abducted and his FB site changed into a living memorial page to him.
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amandel wrote:
Finally found Emma Murdock's blog http://ekmdiary.wordpress.com/ which Daniel had mentioned before he was abducted and his FB site changed into a living memorial page to him.


:Trout:

http://forums.unfiction.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=735863#735863

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Very Happy Very Happy Yaha! Time lost in looking every day for the blog and overlooking the right post. Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 27, 2010 4:15 pm
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I just got back from vacation and other life stuff and it seems I've missed a lot... d'oh.

Almost immediately got a message from Emma - the Doctor's definitely been abducted. From her blog:

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Dear Friends -

Dr. Schreber was abducted some time Monday morning. I came into the office as usual and found the detective, who was supposed to guarding him, asleep. When he woke up, he was disoriented at first then he looked wildly around, and asked, "The Doctor?" I shook my head.

I'm doing all I can to find him. I will speak to the media, I am going to use my blog to publicize this search. I will leave no stone unturned to find Daniel. John is going to use his political clout to get me into the White House to meet with Obama's Chief of Staff!

Any suggestions will be welcome, send them to my email address: emma.k.murdockSPLATgmail.com or you post them in the comments for this post.



I talked to her on FB (through Daniel's login) and she repeated that information and encouraged me to work with Memorywarrior on this.
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Another person and I are looking for the 12th Century manuscript Memory Warrior mentioned in the latest blog post. I searched WorldCat to no avail. I am skimming through the Anglo-Saxon Chronicle and Treatises on Medicine and Book of Leinster.
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searched "Aliae atrum" and Google found a 16th century book called De Behardis et Beguinabus whch had those exact words in them, but it wasn't relevant

I also discovered the British Library provides online access to 280+ volumes of ancient, Greek manuscripts. Some of them are from the 12th Century, so if anyone has the time and ability: http://www.bl.uk/manuscripts/ Laughing

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I know the Memory Warriors site says that they are looking for a 12th century manuscript, but given the 400 yrs leap (give or take) from abductions to abductions, and that there are scripts from the 9th, 17th and 21st centuries, shouldn't that imply they are looking for a 13th century script (1200-1299)..?

I haven't offered my services to the Warriors to search, but just wondered if through any direct comms they may have explained their reasoning or if you had asked the Q, or maybe I'm just missing something..?


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Tex:
Touche! I just started looking - I didn't even notice the discrepancy. I've asked MW about it.

Update: Our bad. Thirteenth Century manuscript it is! However, MW says he's waiting for a lead on the manuscript by snail mail, so we can lay off the searching for now. MW will let us know when he receives it on the blog.

Also, has anyone else saved the In Memoria image left by Emma? The default file name seems a little long.

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Tiffany48
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Discovered this morning that Emma has a new blog post:
http://ekmdiary.wordpress.com/2010/09/30/day-2/
And, MW needs help:
http://memwar.wordpress.com/2010/09/30/curious-shortwave-message/

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Robotguy
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<unlurk>

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Here's the link to the recording curiousbinar.mp3. I need help with transcribing it. Not to mention making sense out of it!


(I left out the hyperlink, it's a bit convoluted...)

I've been following along for a while. This particular puzzle seems easy enough to start, so I thought I'd jump in. I am in the process of transcribing. We'll see how much I can get done during lunch. One way or another I'll post my progress around 1PST.

ETA: 5minutes done so far... I used Audacity and tried to divide the bits at pauses in the audio (see the example screenshot). Most groups were 6 bits with several 7-bit and a couple 8-bit groups. The TXT file includes the groups, and the timing mark for the end of the group in a CSV format (Sorry, the forums won't allow a CSV upload, so you'll have to import, or change the extension yourself.) I can finish the rest after 5PST.

ETA2: OK, all 9 minutes done, updated the txt file. Some of the 7-bit groups start with zero, so the different sizes aren't just omitting leading zeros. Take a listen and see if the bit divisions sound correct...
curiousbinar.mp3
 Description   Original MP3 file
 Filesize   2.07MB
    130 Time(s)

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curious_binary_screenshot.jpg
 Description   Example of bit division
 Filesize   30.53KB
    47 Time(s)

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curious_binary.txt
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 Filesize   3.29KB
    71 Time(s)

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 30, 2010 3:14 pm
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I hope nobody minds, but I'm going to double post just so anyone with an alert can see that the transcription is done. (see above)

Also, I had Audacity label and cut whenever there was more than 150ms of silence, and the results agree exactly with my original bit divisions.

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Robotguy
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Hmm. Triple post, but it's been almost a week and there's actually new info. Maybe I should change my forum title from Greenhorn to Threadkiller Wink

Anyway, new post on the Memory Warrior blog which includes several fragments of the 13th century text he was looking for as well as an encoded fragment which looks like this to me:

Quote:
HO DOOK IKUHOH UNNMVHW DOOJU DXYJU DMHDE WEOH YEFJHEGNDX ZKZJMH EX EWDOEGNK KUOH


A run through Decrypto and a quick cleanup gives

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in anno domini mcclxiv annum atrum aliae veni requiescat populi


And Google Translate tries its hardest:

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year of the Lord in the year of its dark 1264 other rest of the people I came


Translation-guide.com doesn't do much better:

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upon yearly produce demesne mcclxiv(1264) to obliterate dark other to come to rest the people


If no one else wants to, I will go ahead and post this result to the Memory Warrior blog.

I haven't had any luck with the binary from the previous post, but I'll go ahead and upload my working file if anyone wants to play with it. There are 60 unique groups so it doesn't seem to be a straightforward letter-->number conversion. There are 226 groups which only factors to 113x2, so I doubt it's an image (but I still tried a 14x16=224 grayscale with no luck.) There are 1271 binary digits, so I tried a 31x41 monochrome image, also without any luck.

Also, I listened through the audio file again and found an error at index 50, so I uploaded a corrected version of the curious_binary.txt file the other day.
curious_binar.xls
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 Filesize   125.5KB
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Nighthawk
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Not a whole lot happened in 1264...

I've passed it along to friends that actually speak Latin fluently to verify.


ETA: Best translation they've been able to come up with:

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In the year of the Lord 1264, a dark year, I came that the populace might rest

But I don't know what to do with "aliae," the case is wrong on "annum atrum," and "populi" is actually plural which doesn't go with the third person singular verb. But since "people" is weird that way in English it might work.

Or it might mean something entirely different, and I'm missing it. Latin is weird.

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Tha Duckman
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Holy crap, this is SUPER EXCITING. Received this in the mail this morning. Sorry for the terrible quality,, my camera is rubbish and I tried to make everything as visible as possible.

First one is a note, which reads

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I once thought I should send this to Inspector Molinero, but I probably should remain anonymous because I'm afraid the Strangers will focus their attention on me. I'm sending this to you, because you're already involved, being a friend of Dr. Schreber and all.


With the note was a small strip of charred paper, with what look like the letters

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(L) N W Y J G F M (X) V T R P


The letters in paranthesis I'm not positive about, the first letter, the L, is cut off a little. On the envelope is a bunch of lines in groups. I hope that's something, otherwise I'll feel dumb, but I've never seen them on an envelope before, and they're quite curious.

Should these be sent to the Memory Warriors?
note.jpg
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envelope.jpg
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Tiffany48
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@ Tha Duckman - Congrats! I would at least inform MW about it.

Also, one of the people who did all that translating work may want to inform MW by email or blog comment. Get credit for your hard work! Smile

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Tha Duckman
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Thanks, it was a bit of a rush! Like when I order some new equipment and I get all excited to try it out, only this didn't cost me a ton of money Very Happy !

Just posted a message on the lasted post on the blog. Do you think the strip could be part of a key? It just hit me, because that piece of the manuscript on the page is a complete mess, looks like it would be super hard to figure out without some sort of key.

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