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Vagrant
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Unwanted4Murder wrote:
Guys, I just had a breakthrough! Slender Man is actually EVAN'S FATHER!

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This was a joke, in case you didn't catch that.


Edit: And Vagrant, the idea isn't that Damsel is an actual gamejacker, but an IG gamejacker... meaning that she's never had any contact with Slender Man and her whole backstory was made up. That doesn't make the theory any more plausible, but that's what everyone's been talking about.


I get the making it up bit. I just figured that to be a game jacker she'd have to, you know... jack a game? Otherwise her making up her past is just the same as any other Slenderblog. So it wouldn't be so much her being a gamejacker as her being a chaotic fictionwriter :S

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Mira wrote:
Unwanted4Murder wrote:
Guys, I just had a breakthrough! Slender Man is actually EVAN'S FATHER!

But I thought...

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Slenderman was an alternate reality version of Jeff that died in the school fire?


So that would make...

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Jeff Evan's father?!?!


I think you're quite possibly my favorite HYBRID - you're funny as all hell. :p

And Vagrant - a gamejacker is anyone that tries to take something they aren't actually involved in and MAKE themselves involved. So if she wasn't actually involved with any of the Slendy-stuff and was acting like she was to the EMH crew, then she'd be a gamejacker.
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 		>see new video
>eyes peeled for slender man and/or the rake
>nothing Crying or Very sad

Anyways. Who the hell is damsel. I'm really confused, I guess. :v canyoureadthewords..person? Or is isn't that Jessa..or..wat..

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Unwanted4Murder wrote:
And Vagrant - a gamejacker is anyone that tries to take something they aren't actually involved in and MAKE themselves involved. So if she wasn't actually involved with any of the Slendy-stuff and was acting like she was to the EMH crew, then she'd be a gamejacker.
I get what a gamejacker is. My point is this: At the time Evan was viewing her blog, there's no suggestion she knew of them at all. From all the evidence we have at this point in time, she didn't know about them until we pointed EMH out to her. And at that point (assuming she's faking) she kept up the charade. Essentially it'd be like the guy who plays Noah maintaining the Noah persona when discussing EMH.

And as you said, the aspect that makes a gamejacker is someone who isn't involved but tries to make themselves involved. At which point do we see this with Damsel? She doesn't interact with them at all, in any shape, until she meets Jessa. And from there her sum involvement is "I'm Jessa's friend and I'm worried about her". There's never been any real evidence that I can see that indicates she's had any intent to invade their "game". She befriended Jessa and knows of the EMH guys through Jessa and our constant nagging about it. She's maintaining her pre-existing fiction, not trying to inject it into the lives of the EMH guys.

As a note, she could well be a gamejacker. It's just that at this point there doesn't seem to be any indication that she a) created her fiction with the intent of inserting it into the EMH story b) intended to get involved with the EMH guys at all, even with a pre-existing fiction, if indeed it is a fiction. To me those seem to be key to defining her as a gamejacker. I accept the notion of her being a fellow chaotic fictionwriter who has also fallen into the sights of the real Slender Man, but at this point I can't personally define her as a gamejacker. It's probably semantics, but that's just how I feel about it.

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 		Very well said, Vagrant. Hopefully that post alone will keep everyone from discussing it any further. :p
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SickSlickMan wrote:
I gotta agree with Joker on that. Boyfriend-girlfriend-mistress drama doesn't really suit a horror tale of this magnitude.


Actually, if done well, it could be pretty good. Descent was one of favorite horror movies of the last few years.

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Of course she's not a gamejacker, and of course her and Jeff didn't have an affair. Both of those theories are just so far out there, there's no possible way they're the truth. Come on guys, quit looking so incredibly deep into it that you've crossed from weird into average explanations for real life. This is a Slenderman situation with guest appearances by The Rake, it isn't a soap opera.



Yeah, I'm not neccesarily buying the whole affair thing, but we must remember that Evan was seen legging it away from the girls in a video Damsel posted. Just putting it out there, but perhaps Evan was running because he had just noticed they were filming and didn't want to be on camera? If so, what was that about?

And Unwanted4murder - surely this is the point of both the ARG and the forum - to discuss the details, and occasionally theorise wildly, about what is rapidly becoming a very complex game. Some of it may not hit your g-spot (using that tentacle), but you have to take the rough with the smooth old chap.

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iFaux wrote:
>see new video
>eyes peeled for slender man and/or the rake
>nothing Crying or Very sad

Anyways. Who the hell is damsel. I'm really confused, I guess. :v canyoureadthewords..person? Or is isn't that Jessa..or..wat..


Damsel is the canyouseethewords girl. Jessa is a friend of Damsel's, and Jeff's girlfriend/possible ex-girlfriend and current slendersnack. Jessa appears in the EMH series directly (in one or two videos and a ustream), whereas Damsel only appears on her own blog. Jessa has been featured in a couple of pictures/videos on Damsel's blog, too. Damsel is a fan-given name, which doesn't really appear anywhere in the official material, so unless you've read most of this thread, it might be unclear who she's supposed to be.

Hope that clears things up for ya.

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Ambiance wrote:
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I know what Slendy does for his money...
http://www.etsy.com/listing/53189004/mature-new-the-slender-tentacle

Shocked ...
You're a sick twisted man.

Imma she.

...the rest applies though.

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Hopper wrote:
And Unwanted4murder - surely this is the point of both the ARG and the forum - to discuss the details, and occasionally theorise wildly, about what is rapidly becoming a very complex game. Some of it may not hit your g-spot (using that tentacle), but you have to take the rough with the smooth old chap.


I'm not gonna bother discussing this anymore - I feel like a discussion of the merit of theories is completely counter-productive to what this thread should actually be used for, and whether or not I think a few theories are downright ridiculous isn't going to change anyone else's opinion on them anyway.
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Hopper wrote:
And Unwanted4murder - surely this is the point of both the ARG and the forum - to discuss the details, and occasionally theorise wildly, about what is rapidly becoming a very complex game. Some of it may not hit your g-spot (using that tentacle), but you have to take the rough with the smooth old chap.


I'm not gonna bother discussing this anymore - I feel like a discussion of the merit of theories is completely counter-productive to what this thread should actually be used for, and whether or not I think a few theories are downright ridiculous isn't going to change anyone else's opinion on them anyway.


Couldn't agree with you more. Just skim over the more outlandish theories, concentrate on what you think is important. If you don't have the time to do that then you may have some problems my man - you showed up 6 months late to the party after all, and as you say yelling because it's not going your way is not going to change anything.

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 		I had forgotten about the purple-tape shrine being the first point of contact between Damsel and EMH. That is very strong evidence against the gamejacker theory, and pretty good evidence against the weaker "Damsel got drawn into her own fiction" theory.

That said, I don't think it's fair to call the above speculation an epileptic tree. EMH began as the story of some guys making a fake Slenderman story that quickly became a real Slenderman story. The guys maintained the fiction for a while even after that, but seem to have dropped it. Revealing that Damsel had initially been a fake as well would be a means of recapitulating that theme while also, in a larger sense, showing that within the larger work the theme hadn't been abandoned at all.

Likewise, I don't think the introduction of soap opera elements would be inappropriate or unlikely. If the numeration on the boxes is reliable, we're not very far into the story at all; in fact, we're not even close to the halfway point. Romantic entanglements and their fall-out are frequently seen in long-form genre fiction--see Xander/Cordelia in the first few seasons of Buffy, or Jean/Scott/whoever in the last 30 years of X-Men. They're even useful in shorter-form fiction, as the above-mentioned The Descent shows. They're a great vehicle for developing character depth, and they're also good for padding out the story/keeping the story going until the right beat for a Moment of Awesome comes around.

After the Twitter fight, we know that Jeff has reason to believe that Damsel lied about something major. If she has not been having significant off-screen interaction with the EMH crew, then that lie has something to do with her public persona; since that has pretty much been cryptic autobiography, it's reasonable the lie would be related to the persona she's presented. If she *has* been having significant off-screen interaction with the EMH guys, then the lie itself could be about a number of things, but a new dimension to the production has been opened up--thus the Jeff/Damsel speculation.

On the other hand, it's possible Damsel phoned up Jeff on Tuesday morning and said, "Oh yeah, I lied when I said I have no idea what happened to Jessa. I actually saw her being abducted by a big white naked guy. Want to see the video I shot?" Personally, I would find such a prosaic explanation for the fight to be as disappointing as other people would find the gamejacker or bad romance revelations; I *hate* it when creators withhold information for no good reason.

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I can also secede that it could be a physical door, it just doesn't seem as likely to me. The only door that seems to fit the events would be the one that led to the whole "Slender-portal" thing that took them to the beach-front scene.


I was pretty dang sure she was talking about the first appearance of real Slendy in EMH.

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UberTaco wrote:
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I can also secede that it could be a physical door, it just doesn't seem as likely to me. The only door that seems to fit the events would be the one that led to the whole "Slender-portal" thing that took them to the beach-front scene.


I was pretty dang sure she was talking about the first appearance of real Slendy in EMH.


But she doesn't get interested in them until after Jessa disappears, at least not that I've noticed. They didn't have any real interaction until then.

I personally think the tape-shrine is a red herring. I don't think Damsel made it, and I think she's being set-up to take a fall with it.

As for those saying that Slender-man can't have real life problems/solutions, I always thought what made Hybrid interesting is that it dragged real life into it. In everything else, Slender Man's MO has become routine. It ruined Alex's film and killed someone who was very close to him, it killed Zeke's love interest, Damien's love interest, and probably the love interests of everyone who has them in any Slender Man series ever. For once, just once, I'd like to see something a little different. Hell, what would be great is if this whole fight is just one big red herring to draw us away from the whole Land of Ashen Waste question. It may have absolutely nothing to do with Jessa disappearing. Just a thought, mind you.

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 		Good point, though I'd go even further and say the entire series can take a left turn after "crawler" was introduced. Damsel lay "dormant" for long, and something has to happen now.

Also... who did die in MH that was close to Alex?

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