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Mattwan
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MetalGearSamus wrote:
Unwanted4Murder wrote:
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We clear?


No, we're not clear. I don't see how reusing similar themes to what you're used to could be considered "stupid" and there's a lot of evidence that points to this being OOG. Until we get an official confirmation for this being canon, I'm in firm belief that it isn't.


These are not similar themes. These are exact replicas i.e. the same thing. Similarity implies something different in them. What is different?


I think the biggest difference is that these two videos were marked as entries into a video-short contest. Wink

Additionally, the "Slender man" video has red-eyed Evan describing Slenders as if he had no idea who this mysterious man in his dreams was. Since the conceit of EverymanHYBRID is that it began as a fake SM series that turned real, EMH-Evan would doubtless have recognized the tall man with no face.

Beyond that, the "Slender man" short is self-contained. The two characters are introduced in a "wacky" setting, Chekov's Knife gets some prominent screen time, Red-eye Evan has a convo about a man with no face telling him to do horrible things and then is revealed to be a crazy-man talking--and replying!--to an empty chair, Chekov's Knife is unsheathed and introduced to Vin's throat, there's a quick glimpse of a faceless man (just like in Red-eye's dreams! Woo!), tussle tussle tussle, Evan brandishes Knife at camera, cut to Faceless Guy acting spooky, and...fin! It efficiently sets its characters, suggests a premise, and carries it through (stylishly!) in under three minutes.

"Welcome to the ARK" is frustrating, since it seems like it'd be unintelligible to anyone who hadn't been following EMH. I think that's due to it's being a failed effort, though, and not because it's meant to be in-game. They're just trying to set up too much back-story in too little time, relying on sparse but evocative exposition to suggest some sort of apocalypse scenario. The recycled footage doesn't do as much heavy lifting as it should, and overall the thing comes off a lot more student-filmy than "Slender man" or their EMH work. Using the purple tape here was a *huge* mistake, and the shots of Slender Man were probably a poor choice.

Extra frustrating is the fact that "Welcome to the ARK" could conceivable work as part of the (distant) end-game for what we've seen so far. We'd need to pull in Dr. Corenthal along the way, add (or reintroduce) at least two girls to the cast, and set up whatever got them trapped in the basement, but it's not too removed in characterization or visual feel from what we've already seen.

Still, if either of these turns out to be canon, I'll join Unwanted in an underwear feast. Smile

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But this isn't getting us anywhere. We're just talking in circles and discussing the same things over and over again - we'd honestly be more constructive if we didn't say a goddamn thing. Until we get official confirmation of anything, this is Unwanted4Murder signing off on the contest discussion.


Here, I argue that if we weren't allowed to discuss things, there'd be no point to this forum. Forums are for people to debate, stupid and non-sensical or no.

As out of control as this has gotten, I'm not going to demand people to stop arguing about it. People are allowed to talk. The only thing that's really truly bugged me has been your attitude during this whole thing. Seriously, ease the fuck up already.

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 		Very well-put, Matt. I hadn't even thought about Evan's description too much until you mention it, but now that you do it does seem really out of place for the series.

Edit: I'm sorry if I've been coming off as a little crass, Slick. I've been going through some problems in my personal life and I've been on edge a lot lately. If I come off as a dick, once again, I apologize.
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these two videos were marked as entries into a video-short contest


They don't have to be considered as such. I've made that point already.
And your theory concerning the contest and the self-contained videos therein casts doubts on my impressions of the EMH community thus far, to put it delicately.

The knife aspect was introduced in EMH and its first appearance in 'Slender man' is, therefore, not its setup. This is ignoring that being "set up" so closely to its execution and importance in the video is sort of ignoring the nature of a Chekov's object.

And your conclusion that WttA is a failed effort is based solely on the presumption that it is part of this contest, which, I say again, isn't necessarily the case and only makes things more needlessly complicated.

Evan's description makes more than enough sense to me. Please re-watch the videos released up to this point and tell me how many times they explicitly refer to the "Slender Man" by name. You will not have to use more than one hand.

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Karuvitomsk wrote:

And your theory concerning the contest and the self-contained videos therein casts doubts on my impressions of the EMH community thus far, to put it delicately.


What does this mean? It's so vague that it has no meaning, beyond being sort-of insulting for no discernible reason. This is the kind of language to which I was referring in my earlier post.

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 		Gentlemen, gentlemen. Enough.

We can assume the personal youtube accounts (the ones not involved with the two "big videos") and the Facebooks are not involved, especially considering that direct contact was made and promptly cut-off. Enough said.

However, regarding the two accounts, sure, subscribe if you want to, but I think they'll focus on a centralized story for now on, meaning, not too much new "new influence" (i.e. new accounts).

How about, for the time being, we consider these alternate in-game easter egss. If we can't fit it into the established story... fit it into the slendermindfuck and alternatives. Consider checking out the "extra-features" half-way through a TV series... that may be alternate / interdimensionally sound.

Possible?

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Karuvitomsk wrote:
And your conclusion that WttA is a failed effort is based solely on the presumption that it is part of this contest, which, I say again, isn't necessarily the case and only makes things more needlessly complicated.


I'm not sure what you're getting at here. It's inarguable that both videos are contest entries. There's really no way around that.

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Evan's description makes more than enough sense to me. Please re-watch the videos released up to this point and tell me how many times they explicitly refer to the "Slender Man" by name. You will not have to use more than one hand.


In "Healthy Eating", their fake Slender Man asks, "You guys ready to slendershoot?" In "Cops checked", Evan says, "You know, we made that fake Slender Man thing?" That's only two fingers, but it's sufficient to show that the guys were aware of Slender Man from the outset.

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Chew wrote:
Gentlemen, gentlemen. Enough.

We can assume the personal youtube accounts (the ones not involved with the two "big videos") and the Facebooks are not involved, especially considering that direct contact was made and promptly cut-off. Enough said.

However, regarding the two accounts, sure, subscribe if you want to, but I think they'll focus on a centralized story for now on, meaning, not too much new "new influence" (i.e. new accounts).

How about, for the time being, we consider these alternate in-game easter egss. If we can't fit it into the established story... fit it into the slendermindfuck and alternatives. Consider checking out the "extra-features" half-way through a TV series... that may be alternate / interdimensionally sound.

Possible?


Sound reasoning.

At this point, it doesn't really matter if they're canonical or not. If indeed they are NOT canonical, then the Hybrids have the option of at some point retconning them into continuity. Or not. If they ARE canonical, then I'm sure we'll find out about it.

But feel free to keep debating each other about it. I think it's hilarious.

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 		I agree with Chew. If we can fit it into the main story, then we can fit it into the story... if not, we should just be happy to get some extra content. For now, I say we focus most of our attention on the EverymanHYBRID and WickedStickyAlex channels.
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 		Well really Rathead I'm just annoyed. But everyone is so I agree that bit was inappropriate.

It is not inarguable, Mattwan. They are using the same story elements and characters in the same setting running from the same things. I don't wish to repeat myself any longer. It seems obvious. Their being replies to a contest does not mean that these videos are inherently participating in said contest. There are no "rules" of Youtube (or, by extension, the reality you and I reside in) that dictate they must be. And so it can safely said that if they are within the story of EMH and do not have to be part of said contest, then they are possibly (probably) in-game.

I said there were very few instances of His name being said, not none. Of course they know what "Slender man" is, so don't you "you know" me. What I was getting at is that it doesn't have to be spoon-fed to us -- both the boys and the viewers know exactly what Evan's describing without him having to give us a name. Just because he doesn't use the concept's signifier doesn't mean he can't place it.

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RatheadSyndicate wrote:
I think it's hilarious.


I thought you were going on about not being such an ass to each other just a few minutes ago?

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 		Sure. But that doesn't mean it isn't hilarious. Very Happy

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 		.. Okay, I guess you're fine.

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 		Speak of the fucking devils:

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Alright -- piecing together an itinerary. Such a delightful "road trip" if I do say so myself. We're going to Brooklyn. [J] #EMH


Brooklyn? What the hell's in New York? O.O

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 		.. I've just had a thought.

Message the boys with these videos while asking if they can see them.

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