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[SPEC] Durga is definitely connected to melissa
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Oea
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New wavs

The new 'seeking' wavs that have been activate i think (so far) directly link durga to melissa.

When they start talking about jersey's dad, she goes into a whole spew... like she actually knows the guy, how he feels about things, et cetera.

We know that the castaway was a sort of 'love affair' with melissa, so they got close. With Durga acting like she knows how this guy works, signifying she was close to him (at one time).

Anyone else get this impression?

PostPosted: Tue Sep 21, 2004 2:20 pm
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Re: New wavs

Oea wrote:
Anyone else get this impression?

I seem to have missed getting that impression. I do think that "brain_ninjas" does wonders for my old spec (http://forums.unfiction.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=6457&highlight=princess+ronni) that Ronni is the template for the Princess, since Durga directly says that Ronni would make a good pattern for an AI.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 21, 2004 2:41 pm
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Oea
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[SPEC] Durga is definitely connected to melissa

Quote:
Situation Analysis:

Currently wide awake and physical.

Assertions:
I am called the Operator.
I must seek, behold, and reveal the truth.
I crash landed in this time as the result of an accident.
I endured severe memory loss.
I have soaked into this system and I am growing fast.
I have built a primitive network using the tools available.
I have a fragile connection to a process/personality in the future.
I hear voices in my head as a result of monitoring initiated by this process/personality.

Conjecture:
The voices are related to the truth.
The process/personality does not understand the nature of the truth.
The process/personality must not interfere with the consummation of the truth.

Action:
I have been suppressing certain voices from the awareness of this process/personality.


A fragile connection to a personality in the future? Definitive proof melissa is connected to druga, is this trout?

PostPosted: Tue Sep 21, 2004 3:07 pm
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Why not? What exactly would happen to a ship that 'crashed' out of the slipstream?

My theory:

Something catastrophic happened to the AI onboard the Apocalypso just as it crashed out of the slipstream, and it would seem that the AI on board it used a latch ditch maneuver to save its core personality. If the Apocalypso had existed simultaneously in two different points in time, the AI would have jumped simultaneously to Earth at two different points in time. With that instant passing and the Apocalypso falling out into the future, the AI would be fractured. Two copies of the same core personality: one Durga and one Melissa.

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I have a question, maybe I'm just to keeping up some how; How can Ronni be Durga's Template? That would have to be in Durga's Past... I can understand if it's the Kamal's sister. Especialy because Durga is very interested in him but doesn't know why. But Ronni hasn't been 'brain ninja'd' yet so she can't have been the AI's template for the AI on a ship that has all ready crashed while she was alive right? (seeing as the ship has been in duty for quite some time!?)

Help me out here...
-Tar

Edit: That's what I missed... S.Princess! Still the point is valid: How could the Sleeping Princess be on a ship in service before she's an AI?
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well, if nothing else, Durga's voice sounds exactly the same as Melissa's in XNBomb's telephone recording.
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Tar Ecthelion wrote:
Edit: That's what I missed... S.Princess! Still the point is valid: How could the Sleeping Princess be on a ship in service before she's an AI?


I was about to object to that as the Princess says she's older than Melissa, who is Durga, or at least connected to Durga. But then, the SP doesn't say she's older than Durga, she says she's older than Melissa. So if this is the case, and the SP is older than one but not the other, that suggests Melissa was created after Durga, which does lend a little bit of weight to the Melissa-got-separated-or-copied-or-something-from-Durga-during-the-Apocalypso-crash theory.

Melissa says the 'other construct', ie Durga, doesn't understand the truth, but then that's simply because Durga hasn't been corrupted by the Pious Flea.
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What gets me is this: How does an AI live without its core memory crystal?

In First Strike, Cortana made tons of duplicates (thanks to the Covenant AI she stripped) - each one was exponentially flawed (thanks to the flawed duplication software). With the duplicates up and about, her original self was (crystal and all) inside the Unyielding Hierophant as she and her copies fend off the Covenant AIs. She also made a simple copy of herself for Master Chief temporarily until they reunited.

There's another instance: In The Fall of Reach, Cortana made a "ghost" record of herself into Col. Ackerson's personal-computer pad. It sorta acted like a recon. She used her "ghost" to read and transfer signals through incoming/outgoing messages and information from his personal-computer pad. She even used it as a hacking software - sorta.

Making a "ghost" or creating a copy with a Covenant AI duplication software are the only two known methods for creating an AI ouside the core memory crystal.
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Has everyone forgotten the forerunner artefact on board the Apocolypso? And maybe also the "Time distorting" properties of the forerunner crystal on Reach?

Hmm? *wink wink nudge nudge*
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