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Kor
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Chukwa wrote:
So, has there been any speculation into that there will be more letters from Dr. Corenthal? Ones about Jeff, Alex and Damsel? It seems like the thing someone would have brought up and been denied in a single post


I could be mistaken, but it seemed like Jeff already had his respective report/medical records, which I'm assuming were the documents that got terribly shredded a couple days ago. I'm not sure Alex has any relation to Dr. Corenthal or the main events of the series, beyond being Jeff's brother and thus inextricably roped into what's going on through blood relation and convenience. So, Damsel is probably the only one we're still waiting on papers for, and there's always the possibility that future letters could further flesh out what we've learned about Vince, Evan, and HABIT.

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Chukwa wrote:
So, has there been any speculation into that there will be more letters from Dr. Corenthal? Ones about Jeff, Alex and Damsel? It seems like the thing someone would have brought up and been denied in a single post

Actually, if we're going with the time-travel theory, Jeff was with the Doctor during present day, and Alex was never involved. I doubt Damsel was involved either.

I'd like to agree with the whole, Baby Vince and Baby Evan being the same people as they are now theory. When they hit however old they are now, they got tossed into the Ark and then dumped back off, their minds blocking out the trauma they had experienced and creating an artificial life for themselves and meeting up with Jeff. It's been mentioned that Jeff didn't know Evan and Vince since childhood, so it's still plausable.

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 		I don't know if Jeff even has medical papers from 1971 like the other two - when he talked to Dr. Corenthal's wife, he said he had questions about his friends who may have been the doctor's patients at one time. I don't think there was ever any mention of Jeff himself being seen by Dr. Corenthal, if I'm remembering things right.

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Adah wrote:
I don't know if Jeff even has medical papers from 1971 like the other two - when he talked to Dr. Corenthal's wife, he said he had questions about his friends who may have been the doctor's patients at one time. I don't think there was ever any mention of Jeff himself being seen by Dr. Corenthal, if I'm remembering things right.


I don't recall a mention, but I haven't watched that video in awhile.

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Adah wrote:
I don't know if Jeff even has medical papers from 1971 like the other two - when he talked to Dr. Corenthal's wife, he said he had questions about his friends who may have been the doctor's patients at one time. I don't think there was ever any mention of Jeff himself being seen by Dr. Corenthal, if I'm remembering things right.


No, it seems extremely unlikely that he's in the same boat as the others re: the time skip, but when he did travel south he trawled that burnt out school for medical papers which, logic would dictate (as if logic still had any place), could only belong to him. Though, that then raises the question of how he goes from finding his own medical records, to asking Corenthal's presumed widow about friends of his.

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 		I think he found the papers in the school before he went south, and because of them decided to go on the trip. He never said they were his papers, just that he'd found medical papers, that he was looking for the doctor, and that he had a lot of questions for Vince and Evan. I think it's more likely the papers that went missing from Jeff's house are the same papers that were found in the box (and probably a copy of the papers found in the bag).

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Grim Joker wrote:
It's been mentioned that Jeff didn't know Evan and Vince since childhood, so it's still plausable.


Where was this mentioned? I thought that during his road trip Jeff said the fire happened when they were all kids together, and he got left behind in the school by the staff.

I still find it very suspect that Jeff brought the papers up, never let us see them, never mentioned them and now we've only seen records for the other two guys. Given some of his other behavior, I still think there's another shoe to drop.

If he actually did question them then we haven't seen it, and he's controlling that flow of information. The question is, what is the IG reason for him doing that?

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Kor wrote:
Adah wrote:
I don't know if Jeff even has medical papers from 1971 like the other two - when he talked to Dr. Corenthal's wife, he said he had questions about his friends who may have been the doctor's patients at one time. I don't think there was ever any mention of Jeff himself being seen by Dr. Corenthal, if I'm remembering things right.


No, it seems extremely unlikely that he's in the same boat as the others re: the time skip, but when he did travel south he trawled that burnt out school for medical papers which, logic would dictate (as if logic still had any place), could only belong to him. Though, that then raises the question of how he goes from finding his own medical records, to asking Corenthal's presumed widow about friends of his.


Could be that seeing them brought back memories he'd forgotten. None of them seem to have any recollection of this place or the doctor and those memories could possibly be blocked due to trauma at the time. Seeing the paper may have caused him to remember back to that time and so he went to the Dr.'s widow in hope for some evidence about them. Could be why he was so hesitant to show them his own papers. He may not feel too confident about getting them to remember since he couldn't until he saw his own in hard copy.

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qaqa wrote:
Grim Joker wrote:
It's been mentioned that Jeff didn't know Evan and Vince since childhood, so it's still plausable.


Where was this mentioned? I thought that during his road trip Jeff said the fire happened when they were all kids together, and he got left behind in the school by the staff.

I still find it very suspect that Jeff brought the papers up, never let us see them, never mentioned them and now we've only seen records for the other two guys. Given some of his other behavior, I still think there's another shoe to drop.

If he actually did question them then we haven't seen it, and he's controlling that flow of information. The question is, what is the IG reason for him doing that?


Well, no, because Vince and Evan had never heard that story before Jeff mentioned it in his video.

It does seem odd that he didn't indulge them, but do we know that he never showed it to the other two? He's been home for a while now, I'm sure he showed them at some point.

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 		Well we found papers on Evan and Vince, maybe Jeff found and then SHREDDED papers on a patient named JEFF.

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 		Jeff was explicitly asked if Evinnie went to the same school as him in relation to the fire thing, and he said "no". I think it's in the twitter somewhere - or maybe it was an e-mail from Alex?

...did Evan or Vince ever mention their family? Jeff has one - a brother, a girlfriend, and in a pic in the "13 years old girl on Myspace" vid there's a (Christmas?) party with an "elder" man IIRC.

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nevnaan wrote:
Jeff was explicitly asked if Evinnie went to the same school as him in relation to the fire thing, and he said "no". I think it's in the twitter somewhere - or maybe it was an e-mail from Alex?

...did Evan or Vince ever mention their family? Jeff has one - a brother, a girlfriend, and in a pic in the "13 years old girl on Myspace" vid there's a (Christmas?) party with an "elder" man IIRC.


As far as I know, Evan and Vinny have never mentioned any siblings, parents, or even girlfriends (boyfriends?) in that matter. I think the two even share that one house, maybe?

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Didz wrote:
nevnaan wrote:
At this point I think the wristband thing was def to know where people are, so they'll know where they can leave boxes and such. Which meant they always wanted to branch out of Jersey, but they weren't really sure in what direction - I think that's partially why the Land of Ashen Waste brainstorming lasted so long. Wink

@Didz: actually the first time I read the "Baby Vince" papers I understood the same thing - the mysterious Man made Vince kill the Reverend - considering the Reverend was (probably) the man who had abused him for a year, it probably wasn't that hard for the Man to push little Vince to do it. That ties in with my theory that Vince sees Slendy as an almost-pseudo positive figure subconsciously - the nonhuman monster "helped" him find the courage to fight against the human one. Poor baby. Sad
In the original Slenderman thread on SA there was def something about Slendy pushing people to kill rather than doing the deed himself.


Thats what made me think that Slendy had caused Vinnie to do it.


If we go with this theory, his current personality even really supports that. I mean, remember when everyone was all 'we should stop making the videos!' and he (vinnie) was all 'no! we can't let him win!' after being in such a position for a long time, and then being liberated, it is very easy to assume he would develop a sense of need to 'win' or atleast not to lose. And this may also be one of the reasons he has been hesitant to acknowledge slnedy as slendy rather than a prankster; admitting the supernatural ability of slendy would basically be saying that slendy is in a higher position (like the priest) and that vince would not have the ability to free himself/win; like when he was a child and couldn't save himself (until supernatural slendy comes along and prods him into it?)
Also it seems slightly interesting to me now that he said 'win' in light of the recent [continue?].

And the theory of jogging the memory is really interesting, and I almsot bought it save for the fact that both seem to mention a habit of some sort. In which case, maybe habit really is the connecting factor, and maybe we are missing soemthing. another being akin to slendy or rake? why else would 'fairmount evan' reply only to habit, other than generalpsychosis?

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Soleil wrote:
Didz wrote:
nevnaan wrote:
At this point I think the wristband thing was def to know where people are, so they'll know where they can leave boxes and such. Which meant they always wanted to branch out of Jersey, but they weren't really sure in what direction - I think that's partially why the Land of Ashen Waste brainstorming lasted so long. Wink

@Didz: actually the first time I read the "Baby Vince" papers I understood the same thing - the mysterious Man made Vince kill the Reverend - considering the Reverend was (probably) the man who had abused him for a year, it probably wasn't that hard for the Man to push little Vince to do it. That ties in with my theory that Vince sees Slendy as an almost-pseudo positive figure subconsciously - the nonhuman monster "helped" him find the courage to fight against the human one. Poor baby. Sad
In the original Slenderman thread on SA there was def something about Slendy pushing people to kill rather than doing the deed himself.


Thats what made me think that Slendy had caused Vinnie to do it.


If we go with this theory, his current personality even really supports that. I mean, remember when everyone was all 'we should stop making the videos!' and he (vinnie) was all 'no! we can't let him win!' after being in such a position for a long time, and then being liberated, it is very easy to assume he would develop a sense of need to 'win' or atleast not to lose. And this may also be one of the reasons he has been hesitant to acknowledge slnedy as slendy rather than a prankster; admitting the supernatural ability of slendy would basically be saying that slendy is in a higher position (like the priest) and that vince would not have the ability to free himself/win; like when he was a child and couldn't save himself (until supernatural slendy comes along and prods him into it?)
Also it seems slightly interesting to me now that he said 'win' in light of the recent [continue?].

And the theory of jogging the memory is really interesting, and I almsot bought it save for the fact that both seem to mention a habit of some sort. In which case, maybe habit really is the connecting factor, and maybe we are missing soemthing. another being akin to slendy or rake? why else would 'fairmount evan' reply only to habit, other than generalpsychosis?


The more I've thought about it, the more HABIT seems like either a split personality of Evan, a sociopathic, murderous one perhaps induced by contact with Slendy or the Rake; or some sort of memetic being, not a true monster in the sense of Slender Man or the Rake, but something like a viral personality which a person contracts. If it is an actual monster, I would almost dare say it is something more Tulpa-ish than any of the ones we've encountered so far, requiring some sort of belief, fear, or psychosis in its targets to accrue power.

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