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[Trivial? Spec?] What happens when the Queen finds out?
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Ranger D
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Gestas wrote:

I just thought this was some good spec to share, so people are prepared for the possibility that Melissa might pull a fast one if given the chance!)


I was just thinking about this today. The SP may start to get players on her side and splinter the players in to either Melissa-supporters or SP-supporters. She could then prompt some kind of coup or go toe to toe with Melissa. I think we are pretty sure of Melissa's origin, but not so sure about the SP. (Personally I think the SP is whatever was in the container that the Apocolypso found floating in space) If the SP is going to be on par with Melissa this week, we should get a few good nuggets this Friday.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 22, 2004 1:33 am
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mann alive
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Without wanting to cast aspersions on any of the new crew (really! this isn't intended personally!), what if Melissa co-opts the crewmembers, willingly or not, into a plan to trap or ambush the Sleeping Princess?

I could see Melissa forcing the crew to make a choice to prove their loyalty to her, between her or the rogue process. Do we warn the SP of this? Are we sure of which AI we should be helping?


i've actually been thinking of this. i know that melissa has been talking to the pious flee, which is apparently some kind of simple coventant trojan. she does not suspect this. and PF has already tricked her into deleting SPDR.

could i be asked to do something that might unwittingly trigger a convenant invasion? it would suck to be responsible for the destruction of earth. some of my best friends are earthlings

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The Adam
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Gestas wrote:
Without wanting to cast aspersions on any of the new crew (really! this isn't intended personally!), what if Melissa co-opts the crewmembers, willingly or not, into a plan to trap or ambush the Sleeping Princess?


This is actually a situation I've been hoping for since I got into this ARG. One of my biggest problems with our task at hand is that we've all been helping out Melissa, who almost immediately declared its intentions to destroy someone with whom we've been friendly: Dana. I always think it's funny to see the posts in her blog that cheer us on in finding the axons, because it looks to me like she's inviting her own destruction.

Melissa now talks about a rogue process, who seems to be no other than our beloved Sleeping Princess. Now, I've been suspicious of the SP's motivations as well, since it just seems too lovable, and I suspect such an obvious good vs. evil situation. Thankfully, the SP seems to want to help Dana, so at least in this she earns our trust.

That is, of course, if we intend to help Dana. With Melissa thinking it has some crew members firmly on its side, what do you think is going to happen when it discovers that they've all been in collusion with its two enemies this whole time, especially now that it can contact them anytime it wants.

Now that it has learned some personal details about those crewmembers.

Now that it has learned of their similar desires for revenge, and in some cases, the name of people that her crew demands vengeance upon.

We've seen through the audio files the lengths that Durga will go to in the name of its 'team', from which we can speculate Melissa's own possible actions. Now that Melissa's crew is in-game enough for them to comply with a request for secrecy, how far is it going to go? Are we going to have to deal with future accounts from the game where these crew members are in real (fictional) distress? With the nigh-monumental powers that these AI can exhibit, might we not be expected to hand over Dana and the other targets of Team Melissa's vengeance in exchange for Melissa not toppling governments either local or national?

I had the thought when I got into this that the best course of action might be to not assist Melissa at all. Unfortunately, this is unlikely because that would break the game. I'm actually reminded of the actions of the 10th Mjolnir Mk. IV cyborg from Marathon, where the structure of the game forces the player to follow the whims of whatever AI was currently leading the charge. The only real means of protest against Durandal and his contemporaries is to not play the game.

At this point in the game, it's become obvious that we're going end up betraying somebody. I just want to know if we're going to get to choose whom we betray, and if so, how we get to make that choice.

---The Adam

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As Melissa has been known to say "Show some initiative."

Do something only a human would do. Make up your own mind Razz
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The Adam
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You might want to watch your back, then. Wink

---The Adam, realizes the end of posted GPS would make that harder

PostPosted: Wed Sep 22, 2004 9:06 pm
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Zemat
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Ranger D wrote:

I was just thinking about this today. The SP may start to get players on her side and splinter the players in to either Melissa-supporters or SP-supporters. She could then prompt some kind of coup or go toe to toe with Melissa. I think we are pretty sure of Melissa's origin, but not so sure about the SP. (Personally I think the SP is whatever was in the container that the Apocolypso found floating in space) If the SP is going to be on par with Melissa this week, we should get a few good nuggets this Friday.

Ranger D


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