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STIES 11-13-10 DAT FILES
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Xeno Lambrose
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 		When I used to work for Naval Intelligence, rather than use a triad of dots for authorization, the security badges used different colored 3/4 inch by 3/8 sections of tape under the lamination. Green, white, and yellow for different (not necessarily in this order) security classifications: confidential, secret, and top secret. It was just an easy way for guards to ID the security clearance of individuals, and the orientation of the three dots "could" serve this same purpose.

On base, depending on the job classification, workers were assigned within codes, for example code 45 was the general classification of machinists, and to narrow it down, say code 4522 may be machinists that worked in the camera shop.

In this case the Identification (of all ID badges we're looking at) beginning with 58 - ORPH would seem to indicate what project they are working on, and the last number could be a work division classification, or something as simple as a team member status for the project.

Just a few thoughts.

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Headman
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ilikechocolate wrote:
Yay for big update!

And also, Nellis AFB is pretty close to Area 51.


Actually Area 51 is part of Nellis AFB. It's area "51" on the Nellis test range.

NOC14672 wrote:
I don't think that a soldier would carry a clearance authorization like those.


Actually "soldiers" do carry clearance badges. Not every military person is authorized access to sensitive or classified area's without clearance. Checks and balances to keep only authorized people in the "know".

kosmopol wrote:
I still think, those are the same dots as on the trucks. The STIES dots are just stamps, and they are always unaccuratelly stamped. So we don't know, perhaps it's a military research, that's why there is a Grade field on the passes. But since they are technician and researchers, they just don't have military grad. Well, perhaps


I agree, the dot's are stamped.

It is likely they are contractors or civil service and even possible they are active military. There are certain locations where rank/grade will never be displayed for secrecy/security reasons. Military personnel won't even wear their uniforms and actually receive a civilian clothing allowance.

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 		the question is....


will there be an edited "print all pages" chat with a new livechat meeting time

or is a clue hidden in these new printable files


anyway i thinks its ok when we assume that Mr. Myst ( Very Happy ) uploaded it as new content for josh Wink


maybe one of the "majestic 4" is josh's dad........
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kosmopol wrote:
I don't know, why, but ORPH sounds for me as Orpheus.


Alot of the little code names have a greek / military relation.

For instance inside the "dots trucks" there are crates with ARGO well we can take that argonauts argo etc greek wise but also there are alot of military type programs with ARGOS .

More to into this thought there was a missle or nuke program called argos dont remeber all the details but .. whats in those boxes on the trucks? i'm betting it aint Christmas Ham

~~Jane

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 		RW
Possibility for RW - Reconnaissance Wing

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 		Photo ID's
Invert
Inverting the Color does wonderful things, reveals stuff that isnt legible.

If Found Return to Federal Post Office is that it says at the bottom of each of them,

The bigest thing i found intersting was the fact of the handwriting. Its clear that 42-ELL-4LA and 23-MHC-2BR were writen by the same person, while 41-TOL-60P and 07-CES-8RB were writen by a different person, maybe not even the same person.

Other than that,

41-TOL-60P
42-ELL-4La

Tell is in there, so im thinking its a decoding game we have to play, but then again i could just be paranoid like that

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kosmopol wrote:
OK, here for reference and for google (hehe) I made a table of all information we could get right now:

Code:
File-Nr.        Image-ID        Identification        Duty Assignment        Expiration        Note
rsoa01          07-CES-8RB      58-ORPH-42            Technician             RW-536-RD         Trogl
rsoa02          23-MHC-2BR      58-ORPH-47            Technician             RW-046-BM         ---
rsof01          42-ELL-4LA      58-ORPH-49            Research               RW-827-SM         ---
rsof02          41-T0L-6OP      58-ORPH-45            Research               RW-233-DK         ---
rsoa01          empty           empty                 empty                  empty             ---



Good stuff Kosmopol! Suggestion if I may, you might wanna capitalize the Note: TROGL for accuracy.

Ok, I have been looking at these ID cards for a while trying to make sense of it. Here is my take so far:
Duty assignment is self explanatory.

Identification: An ID would normally have their name, however with the secret activities of this location I believe the individuals are assigned a number. It may be set up something like section/team-Organization/project-personal number? I think it may be set up that way so if someone decided to talk about the project later it would be hard to give names of people involved. There must be a master listing somewhere that links the number to names. Perhaps that is how Mysterio found Josh's father?

The expiration is very weird! I have no clue why it would be set up this way?

Image-ID: I wonder if MHC in 23-MHC-2BR may be the initials for Josh's father? Minker, Harold C. or something to that affect?

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 		TrogL user on "userfriendly.org"
Googled TROGL and found the account on Democratic Underground first, but then found his diary that didn't require an account to view.

http://ars.userfriendly.org/users/?id=32220

The information was from 2003 to 2007, so i think it's safe to rule out, but just in case anyone else came across it.

This peaked my interest because the site above shows that the owner, James J. Irwin, is fairly familiar with computers. There is a lot of geek speak in his posts and it thew me as a complete opposite of Josh.

His blog, http://rrr.shawwebspace.ca/blog/, has a lot in common with Josh's:
~There is a central theme, though he talks about other topics.
~He had to move his blog to a different server.
~He mentions DemocraticUnderground.org as a site he frequents (far link to the conspiracy sites Josh visited).

Now i thought i might just blow this off... but then i googled James's name and came up with this Wiki article... look like capt cooper much?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Irwin

~marj ^_^
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 		Re: RW
Rocket Mountaineer wrote:
Possibility for RW - Reconnaissance Wing

Trout

http://forums.unfiction.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=754098#754098

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All passes have RW on them first, Could mean Reconnaissance Wing or Research Wing. This could refer to the section or department that the men all work for.


Edit: Also ORPH could be an abbreviation for Orphan, an appropriate codename for a captured alien.

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 		I will mention for the record that there still does not appear to be a correct answer for the "DEVICE" prompt; the Flash file has not changed in that respect.
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 		Re: RW
Dust King wrote:
Rocket Mountaineer wrote:
Possibility for RW - Reconnaissance Wing

Trout

http://forums.unfiction.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=754098#754098

Edit: Also ORPH could be an abbreviation for Orphan, an appropriate codename for a captured alien.


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Re: ORPH
How about Operation Rocket Poppeteer Headquarters?

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 		I feel as this is very much like the Japanese Recipe Card from the cloverfield arg... As there is some key phrase we need to get... The keyword from that one was Seabed Nectar then Bingo... We found Tagruato...

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 		I imagine these are the same men that Josh has a photo of (in front of the hanger) so if Josh saw these ID cards he might be able to work out more about who is in the photo.

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 		mounting the device is just not active yet

personally i am sure - if/when the device mount feature will be active, we will be able to download/see the scariestthingWEeversaw.........
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 		Re: TROGL
bit of a speculative rant
Cool, action!

Rocket Mountaineer wrote:
RE: the TROGL on RSOA01

Googled TROGL and found these two interesting links and am still looking --

http://wordinfo.info/units/view/2189/ip:8/il:T This one has to do with being a cave dweller -- could this have to do with the newspaper puzzle and going underground?


Latin: cave; thriving in caves; cave dweller.

Very intriguing,my 2p worth is this is the reference. Either (as mentioned) one of the group "goes underground", or a member of the group has particular/peculiar qualities (more likely the former). Given that the newspaper is from 1963 (Speech comes from July 26, 1963), and Josh both never knew his father and was born in 1963, a reasonable speculation is that this is him. Also curious how the events of 1979 (that occur in S8 film), which includes "Josh 13-15". If this is HLM Josh (as is likely), he seems to have a particular blank wouldn't you think? I mean, judging by the filming pics, it's the sorta thing that would stick in your head!

Either way the other 3 are the "guys in the picture", and my guess they were involved in a research program Area 51 that "escapes" during the move to Ohio. Coopers RP input (? Saturn link) may well predate the 1963 disappearance and give rise to the Area 51 research program. It gives us a very nice link where the ARG is giving us the arc surrounding the film. The question is why is Josh important now in 2010?

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