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Slender Man critical mass?
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MetalGearSamus
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Das Omega wrote:
MyrtleGreen wrote:
But Slenderblogs haven't even BEGAN to hit critical mass. He hasn't even gotten outside of attacking white guys! *waits patiently for him attacking people with special needs*


I now have an image in my mind of Slender Man pushing a guy in a wheelchair down the stairs. Seems like the sort of thing he'd do.


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 		Shocked
Slendy's really gotten buff. I guess stalking EMH has really worked out for him, huh?

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Das Omega wrote:
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Slendy's really gotten buff. I guess stalking EMH has really worked out for him, huh?


Yep. He's been at it diligently from the beginning. Jay is going to have his hands full when Slendy comes back for him.

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MetalGearSamus wrote:
Das Omega wrote:
MyrtleGreen wrote:
But Slenderblogs haven't even BEGAN to hit critical mass. He hasn't even gotten outside of attacking white guys! *waits patiently for him attacking people with special needs*


I now have an image in my mind of Slender Man pushing a guy in a wheelchair down the stairs. Seems like the sort of thing he'd do.


I'm sorry about this:


Wonderful XD Not the Professor X being pushed down stairs, but the horrible image.

...

... I mean, BAD SLENDY! *hits with rolled up newspaper* WE DO NOT PUSH PARAPLEGICS DOWN A FLIGHT OF STAIRS. UNLESS THEY'RE ZOMBIES.

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 		Spinner, I don't think we're/they're complaining so much about blogs using similar material, but about that material not being used in an interesting way. A new Vlog can use audio distortion, but if it's just audio distortion because "Slender stuff just has audio distortion", then it's pointless. Slender victims becoming paranoid is a big (essential?) part of Slender Stories, but if that's all the story is, and especially if it's not even well-written, then...

Also, the thing that bugs me more are the random guests who've just heard a "rumor" of something being a Slender story. If you don't have the patience to let your story be discovered, or at least be developed before you, or some random friend, posts it, then, I think, people aren't going to be very patient with you.

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Hellblazer310
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Atomyk wrote:
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My theories on the whole mythos only really include EMH, TT, MH, and that blog Finding The Darkness. Those are the big ones for me that hold the most information and are pioneers and execute the whole thing really well. The new storylines are usually half-assed blogs or shitty videos.


I have to wonder how many you've actually tried to read through.

You'd be surprised. And the new amateur video blogs usually don't do much for me, either. I read 'em when I can. I'm usually not one for the "just blogged" sidestories anyway.

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spinner308 wrote:
whats up with this thread? so you're all crazy for anything slenderman related, have now had a forum dedicated to discussing him and his blogs, but you're complaining about videos and side stories that feature him? i don't get it.

and also, reading through a thread the other day discussing what everyone would like to see in a slenderman story, apparently you want these stories to go back to the roots of the slenderman mythos. some blogs are doing this. but you still complain. frankly, you're all odd.


As the OP, let me just say that the point of my question wasn't to complain. While I enjoy Slendy stuff, I wouldn't describe myself as "crazy for anything Slender Man related." In fact I've been vocal in the other thread you mention saying that I think it might be time to rest the mythos a little bit and look elsewhere for stories. Slender Man has become the LOLCats of internet horror memes, with a new side-story popping up every other day it seems, and I'm just curious if the day is quickly approaching that my mom is gonna know who Slender Man is and be following one or another of these stories, the way she now reads "People of WalMart" and "I Can Haz Cheesburger."

And I'm also curious how much it can take. I know in advance that this is going to be an unpopular statement, but the mythos just aren't that deep. This is pretty thin soup to be making a story out of in the first place and I'm not sure it can stand 15 stories. MH did well because it was first and had a pretty clear playing field. EMH is doing well because Slendy is tertiary to the story at best. But in my eye, all the others are like interviewing 30 witnesses of the same event. There's some variation in the stories, but in the end... it's the same story.

In the end though, this sort of discussion happens in every medium. Why is Marvel publishing 6 monthly Deadpool comics? Why does DC publish 5 monthly Batman comics? How many variations on the Project Runway/Top Chef scenario will an audience watch in a season? Is the sitcom dead? How many Harry Potter ripoffs can the book market bear? Why does every teenage pop-star sound exactly like every other one? Etc. etc. etc.

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Das Omega wrote:
MyrtleGreen wrote:
But Slenderblogs haven't even BEGAN to hit critical mass. He hasn't even gotten outside of attacking white guys! *waits patiently for him attacking people with special needs*


I now have an image in my mind of Slender Man pushing a guy in a wheelchair down the stairs. Seems like the sort of thing he'd do.




That was the first thing that came to mind when I read that.

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5_pak
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 		Well we've already reached the Smurfette principle with Damsel and Jessa. So that means we need a Token Blackguy, then we'll have a black protagonist and a token Asian. Then someone will write an all Pacific Islander cast. A cripple will appear in one, followed by a blind girl. Then all we'll need is old man war/Slender monologue and political correctness will be achieved.

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grieck
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MetalGearSamus wrote:
MyrtleGreen wrote:
I don't think there is a critical mass for these stories quite yet. I have yet to see a Slender blog told with puppets.


Quickly! Summon Neil Cicierega!


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whats up with this thread? so you're all crazy for anything slenderman related, have now had a forum dedicated to discussing him and his blogs, but you're complaining about videos and side stories that feature him? i don't get it.

and also, reading through a thread the other day discussing what everyone would like to see in a slenderman story, apparantly you want these stories to go back to the roots of the slenderman mythos. some blogs are doing this. but you still complain. frankly, you're all odd.


I'm sensing we've got one of our raging bloggers right here.

I think we're kind of at a dangerous time for Slenderblogs and vlogs; mostly because, apart from EMH (and TT, kinda), most of them aren't worth a toss. This means people look at it, go 'I can do better', and end up just adding to the shit. What it takes (well, what I hope it takes) is patience, and not an attempt to just get in on the market. This kind of reminds me of like, the Mexploitation films, and grindhouse films. Poorly created, just there to capitalize on the perceived market demand; I mean, this is pretty much a captive audience right here.

We have entered the era of Slendsploitation. Congrats.

What I'm thinking may be a good idea, would be a reviewing topic for all the blogs, just to give everyone some indication of what is good, and what is just derivative and lame. It'd probably make some enemies, but it might give the sort of tough love needed to cull the herd a little.

That said? I reckon it's perfectly possible to make a decent Slendy story still, even though nobody seems to have managed. You can still be derivative to an extent, though you need to have some subversion of the genre, too.

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SolDL wrote:
What I'm thinking may be a good idea, would be a reviewing topic for all the blogs, just to give everyone some indication of what is good, and what is just derivative and lame. It'd probably make some enemies, but it might give the sort of tough love needed to cull the herd a little.


This. Yes, completely. I've found that in a great number of things, a lack of peer review is a primary reason for stagnation. It would be a great boon to both creators and readers, and might even slow down expansion of new product. My only question now is logistics. Smile

If we could get a sub-forum for it, we could get have a post devoted to each particular series to allow for some more discussion, otherwise we'd likely have to condense it down a single thread to reduce clutter, but reduce discussion similarly. Nevertheless, I think it'd be an excellent idea and think it's something that should be started soon!

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 		I don't really know if that's necessary.

If it's a good story, a good ARG...people will follow it and it will be popular.

If it's a festering pile of rubbish, it will be treated accordingly. I don't think it's a process that needs to be micromanaged.

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I've found that in a great number of things, a lack of peer review is a primary reason for stagnation. It would be a great boon to both creators and readers, and might even slow down expansion of new product. My only question now is logistics.


To be honest, this goes back to what we were discussing about restrictions. If there were a limited number of slots, that would achieve what you and Sol are talking about.

Another idea would be that the major forum-goers do what Sol said: suck it up, have some patience, and input. One is not likely to input if he or she thinks the improvement is not worth the time, but it is often forgotten that this is a collection of open games. Not all posts are going to be puzzles, number crunches, or encrypted messages. These are not required for interaction...yes, they're good from time to time, but there's no way to find that balance without interaction.

It's a seller's market right now. The mom's and pop's of the forum are trying to get your attention because everyone's at EMH/TT-Mart, talking about cute animals and other non-necessities. Why do these small blogs insist on doing this? Because everyone else is buying and no one likes to be like everyone else. I'm most likely not doing the best job of saying it, but if a quarter of the nonsense posts in our main EMH thread were instead devoted to smaller blogs, I think you'd see a much richer variety of stories to invest in.

Right now, all you see are two fat guys sitting on a bunch of starving ones.

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 		I can appreciate what you're saying about restrictions, but it's not a process we can restrict arbitrarily. It's a free internet; anyone can make a blog and have it 'discovered'. And I don't think we'll be able to stop them appearing on the forums. A reviewing service, however, can offer constructive criticism to some of the bloggers (which would improve the median quality of the works), and, to be perfectly honest? Discourage some of the more unsalvageable works, if it should come to that.

I'm not sure that any one of us should be the final authority on any of these...so what if I were to start, maybe a Blogspot? Give each of the blogs a blog post, let the conversation on them go on in the comments for that post, and then after a while, post an average score out of 10? Plus post some choice comments on it. Alternatively, we could get a group of reviewers, give all of them the password to the blog, and just let them go for it...

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