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[Dray]

Yup, Seth is the cameraman. People have posited this theory before, though it is difficult to say for sure that he has any relevance to the idea that someone other than the masked man is TTA.

I think that, given that Jay mentions TTA and the masked man being the same person, we can probably safely assume that they're one and the same. Seth might have been in a critical place in #22 to show that Bad Shit Happens when you hang out with Alex Kralie; it's likely that he doesn't have a larger role than that!

[ThePathfinder]

Just saying that it's something a lot of people honestly wouldn't see coming; There's enough 'evidence'(and I use that term lightly) to back it up. Simultaneously, we've pretty much confirmed that Jay and Alex are both not totheark, while Tim is most likely the Masked Man.

Yes, I'm one of the kooks who thinks that totheark and the Masked Man are different people. Jay's proven to be an unreliable narrator in the past, so, it makes sense that his 'Masky = totheark' analysis would be wrong.

It's actually a bit of curve-ball I can see Troy and Co. throwing at us. Think about it - Enough to back it up, not a whole lot directly contradicting it, and it's the 'evidence' is so minor as to be overlooked by the fans in favor of the bigger stuff. bigger stuff.

[Dray]

Lots of folks have figured Seth to be TTA, so I'm not sure how curve-ball the reveal would be... though it would definitely shatter my current guess that TTA == the masked man! XD

Honestly, I think that if TTA is a different person from the masked man, they're all culpable for being just plain nutters. In which case, they're all out to mess with one another and it just so happens that it was Jay's turn last year to be the victim. Pff, maybe this year Jay gets to play the insane-o stalker/antagonist, and the cycles going 'round once more. Y'never know!

[ThePathfinder]

Yeah, I can see where you're coming from. It just makes enough sense to me for it to be 'the truth.' To add onto it, there's no indication that Tim ever had any skill with video editing, and then there's the fact that Jay and Alex were both pretty much confirmed to not be totheark in the Exit video; Alex went on for location-scouting and ran into Slendy, and Jay went back for a battery. Alex never had time to go back and film him, thus eliminating him as a suspect.

Unless we start breaking out the time-travel theory or the 'multiple people posting on totheark's account' theory. I'm of the opinion that totheark's actually had his account hacked, same as Jay. Hence the seeming divergence in the intent and coding in many of totheark's videos.

So yeah, there's enough to back up the crazy theories I believe, but, time will probably prove me wrong.

[Moon]

[nyc_jester]

[Moon]

[spaekle]

Re: Who's Seth?

[Moon]

Re: Who's Seth?

[Dray]

Arrrgh, if they're going to do a huge reveal in the first episode, I hope that it's something that's more in media res than 'Lol, Alex died'. Spending an entire season backtracking his death seems like it would take a lot of convolution to make fit a set number of entries, y'know?

If they did make Jay the new Masked Man, it'd be neat, I think, if it were revealed obliquely rather than a clearly lit shot blah-de-blah. The thought that Skully who briefly appears in #26, for example, might not have been the same person as we've been seeing from last season was really intriguing!

(I mostly just want to see a Masky and Skully in the same area at the same time at some point. that'd be pretty "D:" I think. They gambol in packs!)

Seriously, though, I'm all pumped for tomorrow night!

Whether someone has died, or someone's pulled a heel-face (or face-heel) turn; whether the Operator's in the background fizzing up the shot or in our faces making us fall out of our chairs, I really enjoyed watching the story last season. ^_^ Evan and Jeff and Vinnie, and all the Slender Blog/Vlog characters for that matter, are fun to follow, but they're just not the same. (For example, the EMH guys not GTFO when shit hits the fan, like distilled mentioned in the other thread! Neat story telling and some editing, A+++ for ARG interaction, but the story's really widely flung so it's harder to keep track of.)

Okay, fangirl rambling aside, I'm guessing tomorrow night == Jay doing a recap, either pissed at the twitpics, or else a TTA recap (which I imagine would be cryptic as hell) that has been following Jay (and Alex at this point, who knows?); which thereafter will be a Jay (and/or Alex?) post, spurred back into documenting his behavior?

Really just curious to see what Jay's reason to post to all of us will be by this point. TTA likes to mess with people, obviously, but Jay seems as though he's put 'let's show this to strangers!' behind him.... unless the Something Awful goons demanded that he keep them posted or something.

[awakeasaurusrex]

In terms of the direction they're going to take this time, I've been speculating that this time we might finally get Alex's side of the story. The big "hole" in the footage and materials we've seen so far is anything Alex himself produced about his own investigation into the Slender Man, with the exception of the conclusions he records at the end of 22 - which amount to little more than him admitting defeat and deciding to quit. We don't know anything about what Alex himself discovered aside from little snatches of the raw data he accumulated.

If Alex was as serious about investigating Slendy as he seemed to be - and the expedition recorded in Entry 22 seemed pretty serious - then it's inconceivable that he didn't record his conclusions somewhere. Most likely, he kept them in video format - after all, he had the cameras running anyway, and that's how he recorded his conclusions at the end of 22. We haven't seen any of that. It's conceivable that he destroyed that, but why destroy only a portion of the tapes when his intent was to wipe the lot? Maybe you could scrape together an argument that he purged as many of his conclusions as he could so not as draw Jay's attention to the Slendy appearances, but to do that and then leave the Slendy appearances in seems bizarre.

Personally, I believe that there is a large cache of tapes from the filming of Marble Hornets still to discover, and they include the ones Alex used to record his findings. It is possible, in fact, that the real meat of Alex's investigation has still to be unearthed. My guess would be that To The Ark stole them at some point before the tapes got given to Alex. Perhaps Season 2 will revolve around Jay finding these tapes and putting them online. Or, if the "Jay's a Masky now" theory is right, perhaps it'll revolve around Jay terrorising Alex whilst Alex puts up those tapes he held back as a means of playing the last ace up his sleeve - a "you better back off, or these tapes will get released to the public" sort of move.

[WatermellonHelmet]

I've been following Marble Hornets since somewhere like Entry #15. Just found this forum. Seems like a great community, hello hello.

I agree that Seth is probably TTA. It seems to make more sense than any of the other theories. Except that the masked guy, who in my opinion is Tim, is TTA. I see these as the only two probable identities for him.

But who are we to know? These guys throw curveballs like no one else.

[awakeasaurusrex]

I'm pretty sure Tim is a Masky (we don't know how many there are...), and he's most likely the one who pops up in Jay's room in Entry 19.

It seems pretty clear that the response video shows a little of what happened whilst Jay was missing - "found you" referring to Masky capturing Jay and presenting him to Slender Man, the description 91 referring to the "flipside" of entry 19. That suggests to me one of three possibilities:

- TTA is Masky.
- TTA is working directly with Masky and is being provided with information to upload. This pretty much amounts to a restatement of the "multiple Maskys" theory.
- TTA was somehow able to steal the footage from Masky, or got access to Jay whilst he was being held prisoner by Slendy and Masky.

Of all of these Occam's Razor tends to suggest the first, and the last one requires far too many logical leaps for me to get behind.

EDIT: Also, note that entry 19 was posted in response to TTA accusing Jay of keeping information back. If the Masky footage wasn't what TTA was thinking of, you'd have expected TTA to get mad at Jay for continuing to conceal stuff, but TTA doesn't do that at all. So, the question is: how did TTA know about Masky's nocturnal visits? The most likely explanation is that he's either Masky or an accomplice.

[Makdee]

[Docjowles]

Got invited to an aged/strong beer tasting tomorrow night. So I should be good and toasty when I get home to watch the premiere (fingers crossed), and annoy my wife staying up to spam F5 and drunkpost here