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[TRAILHEAD] Kaiser Institute of Secular Sacristy
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dakabt
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[TRAILHEAD] Kaiser Institute of Secular Sacristy
A paranormal research orginization, or an arg?

So I was browsing /x/ when I came across an odd post.
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It happens every year. My family throws a feast on thanksgiving, gets drunk and spends the rest of the night playing card games. Nothing wrong with that i guess, other than the fact that they never care to invite or even visit my grandfather. they say he is too old, a bore and difficult to take care off due to his very old age. well i decided to drop by and give him a short visit and have a good talk. we did, he is at that stage in life when his mind is very clear one moment and then very forgetful the next, usually retelling the same story over and over again. Well he asked what i was doing lately, among other things i mentioned that i was reading "the house of leaves" i told him that i thought it was a scary book. He then asked me if i even knew real fear.

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i told him that i loved the paranormal and scary stuff, i even mentioned that i visited "a place in the internet where people talk about it and put scary pictures and stories", yeah he wouldnt have understood what 4chan or even a forum was. He then looked at me with very sharp eyes and pointed to the closet. he told me to look on the far right top corner and bring a box down. he told me that he had something to show me. it was a box with his old uniform from the war, and things that he had brought back. He told me to look in one of the pockets. I did and i found this large folded thick white paper with a strange looking thing. i dont know what it was. and several nazi documents, strange photos and nazi medals. he pointed out at the words and names in the documents. "Jormungandr", "wewelsburg", "Himmler". I didnt really understood, and he told me to look it up, to take pics and look it up. I asked him if i could take them with me. but he said no, that he was having a visitor early in December to pick them up and study them, to verify their authenticity. apparently there is an organization called the "Kaiser Institute for Secular Sacristy" or K.I.S.S. he showed me their simple business card and i wrote down their web address www.kissinternational.org

I left and looked up the names and the site. apparently jormungandr is some sort of mythical serpeant that will devour the world or something
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J%C3%B6rmungandr

wewelsburg castle is where the headquarters of the SS linked to paranormal studies and that himmler was very much into the occult.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wewelsburg


The post has been archived and will be available for permanent viewing in the next few days.

People have found a twitter at
http://twitter.com/KaiserInstitute

Also I looked up the website for a who is. It was registered September 2010. (btw the website is kiss-international.com op made a mistake and fixed it later)

I am attatching images from the thread also look at experiments page on the kiss website.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 26, 2010 1:39 am
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MensVenatus
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http://kiss-international.org/#/experiments/4545860220

Something maybe happening Sunday night? Will email and see what they say
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 26, 2010 3:19 pm
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While most of the documents look genuine, the three on the last picture bother me.
This is what's written:
"Institut für Wehr Wissenschaftliche Zweck Forschung
Unternehmen: Jörmungandr" and
"Nach dem tod herausgegeben zur familie der empfängere"
And this is what would be correct:
„Institut für Wehrwissenschaftliche Zweckforschung
Unternehmen: Jörmungandr" and
"Nach dem Tod herausgegeben zur Familie des Empfängers"
The spelling and grammar seem a bit haphazard.
Just something I noticed. Dunno

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Could anyone elaborate on what these documents are about a little bit?

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MensVenatus
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Haven't one thru the entire website yet, but they advertise some experiments that are going to happen Sunday night. Experience in lucid dreaming is an asset. I emailed them to indicate an interest, and to ask why Sunday night was so important. Here is the response I got from
k i <hannah>



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I will send the release form with all background information and instructions later tonight. Thank you for your interest.
We are not sure why sunday night is so important, we just know that one or two days out of the year are more "charged" than others, with lacked of a better word.

Regards
Hannah



Hannah is listed in the Staff section as a researcher; there is a list of 14 staff, with an interesting list of expertises, including:

evolutionary biology, ethology, 'depth psychology', close protection officer,cultural anthropology,public relations, linguistic anthropology, 'anomolistcs', urban anthopology, paleontology, anthhropology of religion


I'm officially interested... Very Happy
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 26, 2010 8:11 pm
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Here's a quick archive of that thread. It only saved the thumbnails though:

http://173.74.0.45/archive/x/thread/6309170

PostPosted: Fri Nov 26, 2010 8:22 pm
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I meant the Deutsсh-written documents in the original post actually. Thanks anyway. Very Happy

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Just scanned the /x/ thread. Yeesh... what a painful experience that was. I'm hoping that the PMs have decided they want to try the game again... in another environment...
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MensVenatus
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So got the details on the experiment.


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This experiment is named after the person who originated it, the infamous Shiro Ishii, Japanese microbiologist and head of Unit 731. Sometime between 1938 and 1945 he discovered that some symbols have the characteristic of allowing people to dream remarkably similar (albeit terrifying) visions. These visions are said to be much stronger in those experiencing lucid dreams. The symbols were encountered in several places under Japanese control- Manchuria, Hokkaido, and some islands in the Pacific. It was also discovered that the effects are remarkably stronger during very short periods thought out the year.

Anyone can participate in this experiment- those 18 years or younger must have their parents' permission and signature included in the release form.

You are free to distribute the instructions and release form to others.

Instructions, Release Form and one of the Symbols is attached on the PDF.
Take note that some participants will serve as control for the experiment.


There is an attachment release form as well
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 26, 2010 10:53 pm
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Someone posted their symbol on /x/ last night and it seems there are different symbols for each person, or maybe just a certain number of symbols. We should try to collect images of all the symbols and post our experiences.

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I sent an email to them, asking to be part of the Shiro Ishii experiment tonight Smile Hope to hear back in time...

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Someone posted their symbol on /x/ last night and it seems there are different symbols for each person, or maybe just a certain number of symbols. We should try to collect images of all the symbols and post our experiences.


I seriously hope this story does not require us to pay attention to 4chan, because I couldn't be persuaded to scour those boards with a 10-foot cattle prod, kthnx.

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Sadly, I'm thinking of really doing this. What I mean is drawing the symbol and attempt a lucid dream. It's something I used to be able to do but stopped a while ago. Might be interesting to try out of boredom. Already got the email back from them as well. The email I got was the same as MensVenatus. I wonder if this will really lead anywhere good.

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dakabt
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leelzebub wrote:
I sent an email to them, asking to be part of the Shiro Ishii experiment tonight Smile Hope to hear back in time...

Quote:
Someone posted their symbol on /x/ last night and it seems there are different symbols for each person, or maybe just a certain number of symbols. We should try to collect images of all the symbols and post our experiences.


I seriously hope this story does not require us to pay attention to 4chan, because I couldn't be persuaded to scour those boards with a 10-foot cattle prod, kthnx.


No, the Trailhead was there and they discuss it, but I have't seen any ingame threads since the Trailhead.
btw here's my symbol, and anyone can participate even if they didn't get the email. Just follow the instructions with one of the symbols.

Email:
Quote:
This experiment is named after the person who originated it, the infamous Shiro Ishii, Japanese microbiologist and head of Unit 731. Sometime between 1938 and 1945 he discovered that some symbols have the characteristic of allowing people to dream remarkably similar (albeit terrifying) visions. These visions are said to be much stronger in those experiencing lucid dreams. The symbols were encountered in several places under Japanese control- Manchuria, Hokkaido, and some islands in the Pacific. It was also discovered that the effects are remarkably stronger during very short periods thought out the year.

Anyone can participate in this experiment- those 18 years or younger must have their parents' permission and signature included in the release form.

You are free to distribute the instructions and release form to others.

Instructions, Release Form and one of the Symbols is attached on the PDF.
Take note that some participants will serve as control for the experiment.

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This one is mine. Seems simple enough to sketch.
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I got the same symbol as dakabt. It came with "Release_Form_05". I wonder how many symbols there are total; at least seven, based on MensVenatus' email. I'm going to add my pdf for posterity.

CarnageBlack--What was the number of your release form?

The symbols look like runic variations, so I did a little detective work (read: googled), but didn't find anything that was a 1:1 match. More likely they are mash-ups. May have missed something, though.

Articles:
Wiki's Entry on Runic Alphabets: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Runic_alphabet
Omniglot's: http://www.omniglot.com/writing/runic.htm
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