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What do you want to see?/What are you sick of?
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I didn't figure I'd post here again after explaining myself, but I need to vent.

I am sick of binary code and antagonists 'taking over' other accounts, then taunting me on every single page.

Geeze


Thanks for letting me vent. Goodbye

PostPosted: Wed Dec 01, 2010 6:30 pm
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Hints wrote:
I didn't figure I'd post here again after explaining myself, but I need to vent.

I am sick of binary code and antagonists 'taking over' other accounts, then taunting me on every single page.

Geeze


Thanks for letting me vent. Goodbye


Unless it's in Marble Hornets I just can't take binary seriously at this point. I've overdosed.

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Compulsory Basket wrote:
Hints wrote:
I didn't figure I'd post here again after explaining myself, but I need to vent.

I am sick of binary code and antagonists 'taking over' other accounts, then taunting me on every single page.

Geeze


Thanks for letting me vent. Goodbye


Unless it's in Marble Hornets I just can't take binary seriously at this point. I've overdosed.


01101001 01101110 01101111 01110010 01101001 01110100 01100101 00111111

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Das Omega wrote:
01101001 01101110 01101111 01110010 01101001 01110100 01100101 00111111


01001001 00100111 01101101 00100000 01101100 01101001 01101011 01100101 00101100 00100000 00100010 01100011 01110101 01110100 00100000 01101001 01110100 00100000 01101111 01110101 01110100 00101110 00100000 01011001 01101111 01110101 00100111 01110010 01100101 00100000 01101110 01101111 01110100 00100000 01010100 01010100 01000001 00100010 00101110

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Apologies if this has already been touched upon earlier in the thread, didn't read all of it. Also, I was just about to throw up a new thread like this but then noticed that this was already here so...yeah. Some of the grammar maybe kind of off for this discussion since I just copypasta'd.

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Several of my passing thoughts about this range from having the setting from its usual woodsy origins to putting it into some kind of alternate reality Africa. However, I feel that putting Slendy in a sci-fi environment is an absolute blaspheme that should never, ever be though of in a serious light.

Due to that, I feel as though the 'new' environment would be somewhere in the past. Something of the lines of putting him back in the good ol' Black Forest or some other wilderness with lots of trees. I'm too much of a fan for the tree symbolism to even think of throwing that away. Throw in some feudalism or a nice Roman or two and you've basically got what I've thought of.

Edit: Herpaderp. Five seconds after and I already have doubts. Guess what I'm trying to say is that I guess I would be more happy over a novel or a third-person perspective rather than a vlog/blog.

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Ok. Attention everyone starting a VIDEO blog. It is not necessary to use EVERY noise/grain/invert/threshold filter in AfterEffects.

Especially not all at once. It looks cheesy. It hurts people's eyes. And really it's not adding too much to your video. If the entire thing is staticky it better have a reason. Neutral

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ForgetWhatYouWrite wrote:
Ok. Attention everyone starting a VIDEO blog. It is not necessary to use EVERY noise/grain/invert/threshold filter in AfterEffects.

Especially not all at once. It looks cheesy. It hurts people's eyes. And really it's not adding too much to your video. If the entire thing is staticky it better have a reason. Neutral


But if I can't cover everything with white noise and snow then I might actually have to act! DDDDD:

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Acting is a big thing for vlogs. It can completely and utterly ruin even the best idea for a series. One of the reasons I like EMH so much is because the characters are based almost 100% off the real crew. They don't really have to act. Few things sound forced and it never sounds like they're reciting a script, which has been a problem for others.

I'll agree with other people about people being too aware, but it really depends. Marble Hornets isolated itself almost completely from interaction/the real world. It worked for them. They were dealing with an unknown force that they knew nothing about. For them, Slender Man wasn't what is it in IRL. And they did it from the start and kept with it the whole series. On the other hand, EMH was made based on the idea that the Slender Man stories exist, as well as everything related to him (blogs/vlogs/ect). They started off very interactive with their fan base. They've made it abundantly clear that they're aware of everything (except the hidden stuff) IG. They somehow managed to create their "hub" IG. And for some reason I find that almost as disturbing as Slendy.


TL;DR version: If you're going to completely create a character from scratch, use a good actor. If you're going to be interactive and aware, do it from the start so it doesn't look forced.

P.S. I'd love to see more ARG elements since the majority of Slenderstories are just simply stories to watch or read. And if properly done, another blog/vlog where IG Slendy is just the creepypasta he is to us would be wonderful.

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G.I.R wrote:
sp103 wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/user/EverymanHYBRID#p/a/u/0/3vT2AUJcfqE


Yeah no shit guys its confusing as fuck. Smile

I think they need to at EMH get back to the fucking basics and stop trying to create the Lord of The Rings With SlenderMan type storyline.


It is amazing where it is at. It's actually has immersion, like an ARG should.

Cloverfield was more complicated than EMH, yet a lot of people followed it.


As a huge Cloverfield follower, I have to disagree. Cloverfield was straightforward as such:
Slusho T-shirt
Slusho Website
Slusho distributor Tagruato
Anti-Tagruato activitist
Video blog of girlfriend of Anti-Tagruato activitist.

Basically it told us that Tagruato was the reason the monster came to NY as the secret ingredient in their Slusho drink was the saliva of the monsters parasites. It escaped from a drilling rig in the Atlantic and followed a tanker to NY.

EMH is a migraine inducing clusterfuck.

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Necro'ing this thread because I think it deserves another airing.

You know what I'd like to see more of? Proper investigations. Characters actually proactively seeking information out rather than waiting for clues to fall in their laps. I can think of some blogs that do this to a certain extent - Marble Hornets, Tribe Twelve with the interviews, Experience of Evil (especially the videos set in the present) - but even those I think could do with emphasising it a bit more. And a heap of the second-tier Slendervlogs and Slenderblogs just have the characters passively wait around for the next thing to happen, then freak out a bit, then passively wait for the next thing to happen. Why so passive, Slendervloggers?

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want: more character driven stories. More references to early Slender-mythos, rather than just rehashing the big blogs/vlogs.

maybe: vague slender-motives? Not too much, of course, because that defeats the purpose of Slenderman. If the audience learns about any sort of motive, the protagonists shouldn't.

Don't want: abuse of distortion. Especially if most of the video is relatively quiet, and then the distortion is really loud.

Last note: going to sit down and read all of this thread soon and plot my own blog accordingly.

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This thread is excellent.

And as for investigating - I think that's something that vlogs could work an angle on. A creepy old library, or records storage, you have atmosphere.

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I have to respectfully disagree with those of you who dislike the idea of motivation being introduced to Slendy. It's a crucial part of every character in every story and without it everything falls apart.

Provide me some examples in storytelling where this has worked before so I can better understand where you're coming from.

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ZorakRamone wrote:
I have to respectfully disagree with those of you who dislike the idea of motivation being introduced to Slendy. It's a crucial part of every character in every story and without it everything falls apart.

Provide me some examples in storytelling where this has worked before so I can better understand where you're coming from.


Except Slender Man need not be a character; in many stories, he acts more like a force. The characters are the ones struggling against this unknowable, unstoppable entity; the entity itself is an obstacles, instead of a character.

To pick some examples which can be related to the Mythos, let's look at other cosmic horror stories. When has Cthulhu ever been characterized? Sure, we know stuff about Cthulhu, but he's supposed to be a being so alien that we cannot even comprehend his thoughts.

Another example is the House in House of Leaves. You could argue that the House is the primary antagonist, but it doesn't have any motivation or character which is discernible by the reader. It's a house.

The strength of leaving Slender Man's motivations unclear is caused by fear of the unknown; we know that he's killing/making people vanish, but we don't know why, which creates a big question mark. And humans tend to be more frightened of question marks than exclamation marks.

The purpose of Slender Man in these stories would not be as an antagonist, but as an object which creates fear and tension. The characterization is reserved for the human's in the story, those whom we can identify with and understand.


Now, that's not the only way to write a Slender Man story. Most current stories are much more in line with the idea of Slender Man as a character, chiefly as the antagonist. Putting him in this role does require greater in-universe understanding of him, as unlike a force of fear, an antagonist must be fleshed out and understandable by the audience. This style isn't wrong, or worse than the other, it's just different. You can make some good stories with it. However, it won't create the same fear as the other style. Instead of a localized cosmic horror story, it becomes just standard horror. Give Slender Man motivation, personality, or other attributes, and he becomes a horror monster, instead of an eldritch force.

The older stories were usually closer to a cosmic horror style of storytelling, while newer stories are more horror-esque. Again, not better or worse, just different.

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This has been said before but it's a big pet peeve of mine. If you're writing a blog please don't spread out the story over three or four other blogs, it just makes it a chore to read and piece together. It can be done well but mostly I've just seen it been done badly. It also makes it hard to pick up the story if someone comes in late.

Another thing that bugs me is the amount of time Slendy is in the story but does nothing at all. By now people are having him show up and just stand there and do nothing but make people paranoid or yell at him. What's the point of being scared if he just looks in the window like a creeper? Draw the curtains and call a friend over for a beer, problem solved. Have him actually do something, like wreck the house or follow you when you're with someone who can't see him or have him appear and heard the characters somewhere dangerous. Nowadays the minions look more dangerous than the big guy.

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