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But when Evan disappears into the woods, when they find him again, he's completely still, sitting on the ground. And as soon as blood starts to spill from one of the bags, he's cackling like a loon. That's not Evan anymore.


This. I think you've definitely spotted the moment of inHABITation, there.


Well... Evan was doing strange things before this, staring at dead trees, standing still and looking into the distance - you think maybe habit was calling out to him somehow earlier on?

Maybe whatever HABIT is latched on/manifested/ took hold of Evan in the heat of that moment, but had been knocking on the door for a while. It could have seen Evan's rage against slendy as a desirable host, and could have tricked an emotionally compromised Evan by offering "a way to fight"


That's an awful lot of assumptions, but I could see Habit as being both an opportunist and a trickster. Either that or Slendy is like an octopus, but instead of escaping in a cloud of ink he escapes in a forest clearing of tree-gore bags and HABIT spores Very Happy


I should probably read prior pages, but this thread confounds me. Anyway... are we saying that HABIT isn't a multiple personality deal, but a separate being inhabiting Evan as conducted by The Rake? I mean, I thought the reason HABIT existed was so The Rake had a minion to combat Slendy.

Also, I feel like you're right with the whole idea that HABIT took root when Evan found the clearing with bags of dead rabbits (it would make sense that they're all rabbits in those bags), but I think HABIT truly immersed him/itself in Evan when they were in The Ark and Evan was by the water.
If any of them are minions of another it's The Rake who's a minion of HABIT I think. And if there is really a hierarchy to it I think it'd be Slendy, HABIT, The Rake. And I perceive HABIT as trying to break free of Slendy's control as he's not exactly the type to be down with being controlled by anyone.

Evan's been acting weird through the whole series if you really pay attention so I don't think much will come out of trying to pinpoint specific times where Evan was inHABITed.

Also, I just accidentally started to write Evan in all caps. D;
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TheNightmareComplex wrote:
Vince and Evan introduce the clip to us.

They're aware that this happened.

They can see this video.

Yeah it is pretty weird to me that the guys weren't more bothered by the way Evan behaved there. Like the fact that they never questioned it or anything, not on camera at least. There have been hints of Evan acting odd that they are able to see but that maybe they're just not quite grasping the implications of?
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plex wrote:
TheNightmareComplex wrote:
Vince and Evan introduce the clip to us.

They're aware that this happened.

They can see this video.

Yeah it is pretty weird to me that the guys weren't more bothered by the way Evan behaved there. Like the fact that they never questioned it or anything, not on camera at least. There have been hints of Evan acting odd that they are able to see but that maybe they're just not quite grasping the implications of?


It makes me wonder if Evan has a past history of hinky behavior, and that maybe they're shrugging it off because its just "Evan being Evan," which is to say, Supremely Strange, but still nothing to get excited about.
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i'll jump out of lurker mode for a moment...

i think that vince and jeff are plenty aware that evan is falling off the wagon. they even talking about evan not being right for a while in '...' but then again, that was a morse code video, and since they can't see or remember that, maybe it didn't happen...yet...or something...? i dunno. but i think they are plenty aware. vince just goes in denial mode because that is what he does and as for jeff, jessa disappears and he goes all "sad panda" mode. or maybe jeff and vince just brush off evan's cackling as a mental breakdown of sorts. he has been through all this stuff with someone breaking into his house, has probably been hearing things(the upper body workout video) and then tries to attack slendy and he just disappears, in the woods...with bags...just like his nightmare from the dream videos, and he just breaks down. everyone reacts differently to extreme stress/tragedy, some go into denial, some ball their eyes out, others go silent, maybe some laugh hysterically.

idk. just my random rambling.

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plex wrote:
TheNightmareComplex wrote:
Vince and Evan introduce the clip to us.

They're aware that this happened.

They can see this video.

Yeah it is pretty weird to me that the guys weren't more bothered by the way Evan behaved there. Like the fact that they never questioned it or anything, not on camera at least. There have been hints of Evan acting odd that they are able to see but that maybe they're just not quite grasping the implications of?


For someone who doesn't know me at all, it I start laughing at a video of a kid falling off his tricycle and hitting a tree, they would think I am crazy and mean as all hell.

Yet if my friends saw me laughing they would just say "Its (noname4u) being (noname4u).

That's how I took that situation.

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I think it's more or less the fact that there were bags filled with dead people/animals around them. I wouldn't be questioning anything, either; If I were Vince, I'd just be trying to hold onto my sanity.

My point is, why won't someone bring this up to them?


"Hey, assholes, what the hell is this even?"
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When I asked Alex about Evan walking round and round with that purple tape on his mouth, he said that it was just Evan being Evan so it's plausible that Evan has a past history of psychosis.
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G.I.R wrote:
plex wrote:
TheNightmareComplex wrote:
Vince and Evan introduce the clip to us.

They're aware that this happened.

They can see this video.

Yeah it is pretty weird to me that the guys weren't more bothered by the way Evan behaved there. Like the fact that they never questioned it or anything, not on camera at least. There have been hints of Evan acting odd that they are able to see but that maybe they're just not quite grasping the implications of?


For someone who doesn't know me at all, it I start laughing at a video of a kid falling off his tricycle and hitting a tree, they would think I am crazy and mean as all hell.

Yet if my friends saw me laughing they would just say "Its (noname4u) being (noname4u).

That's how I took that situation.


If you had attacked an eldritch horror and there were guts and blood pouring out of plastic bags, would they say "That's just GIR being GIR?"


EDIT: I GET that he might have some problems, and sharpening knives and walking aimlessly might be Evan being Evan, but laughing hysterically at copious amounts of REAL gore after assaulting a monster? That isn't just blank-being-blank, that's, "Hey this kid might be a little fucked up we should really evaluate our friendship."
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Didz wrote:
When I asked Alex about Evan walking round and round with that purple tape on his mouth, he said that it was just Evan being Evan so it's plausible that Evan has a past history of psychosis.


I want this to be canon so badly you do not even know.
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plex wrote:
TheNightmareComplex wrote:
Vince and Evan introduce the clip to us.

They're aware that this happened.

They can see this video.

Yeah it is pretty weird to me that the guys weren't more bothered by the way Evan behaved there. Like the fact that they never questioned it or anything, not on camera at least. There have been hints of Evan acting odd that they are able to see but that maybe they're just not quite grasping the implications of?


Evan's acting pretty strange in that introduction, too... he's got this incredibly creepy smirk on the entire time Vince is talking, and based on the facts that he's got his arm behind Vince and there's a loud metal clicking sound at the very beginning of the clip, some people have proposed the idea that Evan's got Vinnie at knifepoint. Clicks open a switchblade and "act normal for the camera, Vince."

I think it's hard to figure out exactly when HABIT took up residence. I'd say that he settled in fully at the first unsigned tweet, and the "HABITHABITHABT" part was Evan unconsciously freaking the fuck out.
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TheNightmareComplex wrote:
G.I.R wrote:
plex wrote:
TheNightmareComplex wrote:
Vince and Evan introduce the clip to us.

They're aware that this happened.

They can see this video.

Yeah it is pretty weird to me that the guys weren't more bothered by the way Evan behaved there. Like the fact that they never questioned it or anything, not on camera at least. There have been hints of Evan acting odd that they are able to see but that maybe they're just not quite grasping the implications of?


For someone who doesn't know me at all, it I start laughing at a video of a kid falling off his tricycle and hitting a tree, they would think I am crazy and mean as all hell.

Yet if my friends saw me laughing they would just say "Its (noname4u) being (noname4u).

That's how I took that situation.


If you had attacked an eldritch horror and there were guts and blood pouring out of plastic bags, would they say "That's just GIR being GIR?"


EDIT: I GET that he might have some problems, and sharpening knives and walking aimlessly might be Evan being Evan, but laughing hysterically at copious amounts of REAL gore after assaulting a monster? That isn't just blank-being-blank, that's, "Hey this kid might be a little fucked up we should really evaluate our friendship."


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You don't know my friends lol


I am not doubting the fact that Evan went full psycho in that scene, but other antics might actually just be Evan being Evan.

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Rhiannon wrote:
plex wrote:
TheNightmareComplex wrote:
Vince and Evan introduce the clip to us.

They're aware that this happened.

They can see this video.

Yeah it is pretty weird to me that the guys weren't more bothered by the way Evan behaved there. Like the fact that they never questioned it or anything, not on camera at least. There have been hints of Evan acting odd that they are able to see but that maybe they're just not quite grasping the implications of?


Evan's acting pretty strange in that introduction, too... he's got this incredibly creepy smirk on the entire time Vince is talking, and based on the facts that he's got his arm behind Vince and there's a loud metal clicking sound at the very beginning of the clip, some people have proposed the idea that Evan's got Vinnie at knifepoint. Clicks open a switchblade and "act normal for the camera, Vince."

I think it's hard to figure out exactly when HABIT took up residence. I'd say that he settled in fully at the first unsigned tweet, and the "HABITHABITHABT" part was Evan unconsciously freaking the fuck out.


Then bring it up to them. If they can't remember the video, then it's pretty much confirmed HABIT interference.
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Didz wrote:
When I asked Alex about Evan walking round and round with that purple tape on his mouth, he said that it was just Evan being Evan so it's plausible that Evan has a past history of psychosis.
This seems quite possible the more I think about it. Maybe HABIT has been with Evan most if not all of his life?
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TheNightmareComplex wrote:
Rhiannon wrote:
plex wrote:
TheNightmareComplex wrote:
Vince and Evan introduce the clip to us.

They're aware that this happened.

They can see this video.

Yeah it is pretty weird to me that the guys weren't more bothered by the way Evan behaved there. Like the fact that they never questioned it or anything, not on camera at least. There have been hints of Evan acting odd that they are able to see but that maybe they're just not quite grasping the implications of?


Evan's acting pretty strange in that introduction, too... he's got this incredibly creepy smirk on the entire time Vince is talking, and based on the facts that he's got his arm behind Vince and there's a loud metal clicking sound at the very beginning of the clip, some people have proposed the idea that Evan's got Vinnie at knifepoint. Clicks open a switchblade and "act normal for the camera, Vince."

I think it's hard to figure out exactly when HABIT took up residence. I'd say that he settled in fully at the first unsigned tweet, and the "HABITHABITHABT" part was Evan unconsciously freaking the fuck out.


Then bring it up to them. If they can't remember the video, then it's pretty much confirmed HABIT interference.


I might... there's another video they apparently can't see, according to Jeff's e-mail. (And I am still ridiculously excited about getting a 16-word e-mail from him, seriously.) I linked him to the wiki pages for the hidden videos, as well as "Sleep Lab Part II," in which Evan described his dreams. When I re-watched the series, I noticed that Evan records a description of his screaming-children dream, but then later seems to have no memory of it. Jeff said that the hidden videos AND the link to the Sleep Lab page were all dead. Someone might want to follow up and see if they can even see that video, or if the part where Evan describes his dream has also vanished from their perception.

They-- Jeff and Vince, at least-- still seem kind of annoyed by our talk about the hidden videos, and I don't want to irk them further. I'm not sure if Evan's ever commented on the hidden videos, I haven't had time to sit and watch all the ustreams.
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The way I see it is like this....but like I always say, I could be wrong:

Corenthal is alive and well......except mentally. He disappeared and was never found, hence why his wife says he's died. I believe that he has some sort of mental illness that causes confusion and he's still writing to this other doctor. In the letters he states that his mental illness is dwindling due to lack of sleep(?).
I think the guys were patients of his at some point but the trauma of dealing with the creature caused them to forget about each other, then they meet again. To me Evans psychosis is evident through Vinnie receiving that video of the dead animals and Evan giggling his tits off in the middle of a forest. In the Corenthal letters it states that Evan/HABIT also killed rabbits. Coincidence? Vinnie seems to have that same level headed calmness about him that the Vincent in the letters had. The child knew there was a corpse of the Rev in the next room yet didn't seem bothered in the slightest. To me, this reflects Vinnie and the beard of awesome. As for Jeff, we won't know because those letters got destroyed.
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