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[LittleKuriboh]

More on the whole "How did Jessica recognise Jay?" subject.

I'm more than willing to accept the theory that Jessica and Jay have met before during the seven month period of memory loss. The idea that these two people have a past but just can't recall it in their mind? I love it. It's far more compelling than the idea that she just saw him on the news or heard about him via some other means.

However.

If this were to be the case, and his name seems familiar because they share a past but cannot remember it due to Slender Man interference - the fact that she CAN remember his surname, even vaguely, raises a lot of questions.

In every other case presented, when Slender Man causes you to forget something, you FORGET it. Period. When Jay was reviewing footage they took for the Marble Hornets project (Entry #17) and he said he couldn't remember filming it? That's significant. That means that he doesn't remember any aspect of that shoot. Keep in mind they likely went over that part of the script numerous times when shooting, as film crews are liable to do - both before and after the footage in question. The fact that he looks at this footage and says "I have absolutely no recollection of this specific event" means it has been totally wiped clean.

After all, isn't that the crux of the series? That these people are filming everything that happens to them BECAUSE they're worried they'll forget all about it afterwards?

So, if Jessica has the ability to recall - even slightly - the events that have been intentionally wiped from their memories, then she is a wild card.

In my opinion? It's more likely that she heard Jay's surname in a news report. But I don't discount the awesome possibility that it's something more.

[MrHawthorne]

I agree that Jay's name might be familar to Jessica because she heard it off of a newscast.

Seven months have past. The entry before the season 1 finale featured Jay's apartment complex being set on fire. Soon after Jay left on some sort of fact finding mission.

It's possible that he might be a person of interest?

[Undertheark]

[LittleKuriboh]

MrHawthorne didn't really mention family. It doesn't have to be your family that comes looking for you. For example, if your bills or rent go unpaid, and the collectors show up and nobody's home? People are going to start asking questions. Police are going to be contacted.

[Jaytenthousand]

Well, I finally caved, and made myself an Unfiction account. This confirms to myself that whatever life I once had is now gone. But anyway, on with the post:

So you've basically gotten all of my ideas already. Reading all the way through the thread, I came up with theories that were later guessed by others. The one thing I'd like to add is that on the site for the safe in his hotel room, it notes that it's a 15 inch laptop safe. Personally, I hope he actually finds a mysterious laptop or a USB flash drive inside it (remember that Jay's camera saves to a hard drive rather than tapes). /2 cents

[Dray]

WoT time!

Jessica having noted that she's seen Jay somewhere before is possibly a play on words, alluding to the fact that she's familiar with him because they've spent some time together, and he has probably revealed important tapes to her at some point. "I've seen you somewhere" would then be, in retrospect, kind of a funny. Alternately, if Jessica's a suspect then she could have been watching him and keeping tabs on him, then picked up his name. I think the first is probably more likely, given that she reacted to his full name and that seems to me more an act of having been introduced than spying upon.

Having seen him on TV for something seems like a weird tangent to go on for Marble Hornets, is all. And the bit about Jay saying 'unless I've done something I don't know about,' points me in the direction of thinking that the entire conversation is supposed to be ironic, or that it will be once we get more entries!

Also, in regards to folks getting snippy with who posted what first and 'read all the posts before commenting!' that's going on, could you guys chill out a bit? It's annoying, as a person who does read through the backlog, to find these little nuggets of cynicism. I really would like to just read about what you're all discussing about new theories or findings or other fan-related chatter, rather than quote boxes followed up by "but I saw it first!" or "already talked about, read everything." By doing this, you're cluttering up the thread and making it less palatable for people, thus ensuring that people don't do as you ask. *muppet-flail of peeved*

In regards to Jay getting all trembly-handed around the pills, it could be that he thought they were masky pills, then had a moment of relief when he found out that they were just ibuprofen!

In regards to KEY, I think it's probably not the right shape or size to override a cardkey slot. Having worked in a hotel that used cardkeys, the masterkey that can get into each room where I worked was larger and of a different shape. KEY looks very much like an average house-key, so probably won't fit into the safe, either. I'd imagine that the safe override key would probably be smaller, and definitely not something that could be easily cut at the keymakers like KEY could potentially be. Either Jay had just returned from some failed investigating, as has been suggested, or what we see is what he's felt was important to carry around for the last seven months. (In which case, ew, dude should stop in to purchase some toiletries at the very least! XD)

Regarding Jay having nobody who cares for him, there is the ambiguous note of the person who contacted him to inform him of the house that's burned down. Jay doesn't mention whether it's a friend or a family member, just 'somebody', however that could be because he was trying to conceal any relations. Just because we don't see anybody doesn't mean that he's completely alone in the world, just that he doesn't want to let strangers know who he's connected to. Being paranoid, and seeing evidence that there's this horrible monster that had been stalking Alex and all of his friends, I could see why Jay would want to give the impression that lurking him is a dead end.

However, money has not come into play in the past season, so I think that creditors are probably not the likely case. I don't think that MH is this intent upon creating such a realistic portrayal of a character. They're more focused on Jay's journey through fecking weird things happening, not 'and then he had to pay the bills or go to prison.' It's just not that kind of story.

[Undertheark]

[morscata12]

[LittleKuriboh]

[Barolas]

Maglight flashlight
A Change of clothes
Some pills
K
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OMG IT'S SO CLEAR NOW!!!

In all seriousness, my analysis of the codes comes down to this:

1234 - basic attempt at cracking the safe had a password not been set or a very weak password. He should also try 0000 just for the heck of it.

8416 - This one I can't figure a correlation for. Could be a bank PIN, last four digits of a social, last four digits of a telephone number from my experience with people who set up PINs on debit cards (I'm a banker). If it were a social, there's no way to verify because the last 4 are just a serial number, as to where the first 3 are a region code and second 2 are a group number.

1985 - a possible birth-year. This puts Jay at about 25, which follows cannon age lines.

4613 - Just a pattern on the keypad. Looking at a telephone keypad or something similar, you see he just makes a box. Alternatively, he could have tried 7913, 7946, etc. I don't feel there's anything to read into there. This one can't spell anything because the 1 is an empty key.

Something I'd be curious to see is if the safe has a timer on the failed attempts to avoid the 15 minute time-out. So, if Jay puts in a code 3 to 5 minutes apart, would it still trigger the "hold 15?" Probably, but if it allows us more chances to enter codes, it can't hurt to try.

I feel that this should belong in it's own [PUZZLE] thread, but I didn't want to step on toes. Anyone else feel the same?

[Mr.Beyond]

I'm actually thinking the news report, if J has been on the news and that's how Jessica recognizes him, might be a little more heinous than a simple missing person report. He has SEVEN WHOLE MONTHS of memory missing here; the possibilities for what he could have done in that time are ENDLESS. For all we know he could be a murder suspect.

(speculation time) He might not have even murdered someone, but he could be a suspect in slender-related deaths (because murder doesn't go unnoticed forever.)

If he IS on the lam from the law, then it makes sense that he's in an area that he doesn't recognize- he'd want to get as far from the scene of the crime as possible. He could have been hotel-hopping frequently before "waking up", keeping on the move to make himself harder to find (both to TTA and to police).

I think the wording there- "unless I've done something I don't know about"- could be a sort of dark irony that will become oh so relevant later if he HAS done something unspeakable while he was "gone".


Also,

[Jaytenthousand]

[kaleeshwarrior]

KEY is damn near identical to my apartment key. I'm not entirely sure on details of keymaking and styles, but I know my apartment complex is owned by a national chain. If it's the apartment chain's style of key, then it could be an apartment key. If the style is tied to a particular key maker (say, Lowe's or whatever), then it could be anything.

All I know is I did a double take when he pulled the thing out and went "Holy shit, J's been to my apartment!"

[moosekaw]