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ccl28
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 		It's a shame that interest for this died before I even found out about it. I bet there will be some additional clues coming to help. Seems like something was lost in translation at ep. 3, which makes it hard to really move forward from that point. I hope they do something to spark interest again. It's silly to play when nobody cares anymore.

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ccl28 wrote:
It's a shame that interest for this died before I even found out about it. I bet there will be some additional clues coming to help. Seems like something was lost in translation at ep. 3, which makes it hard to really move forward from that point. I hope they do something to spark interest again. It's silly to play when nobody cares anymore.


I think people are still interested, it's just that most people don't want to talk about it on this forum anymore... If you are to read the last 60 pages or so, there's a lot of bickering and completely whacko theories that made it a chore to read through and filter out the trash. But seeing as how it's relatively quiet now, maybe we can actually get down to work! Wink

Over the past couple of weeks, I've taken a step back and applied Occam's Razor... in essence, I think we have to keep things simple. In conclusion, I have decided that my approach from now on is to take seriously the hinted "instructions" given in several videos: LISTENING to what they say will give us all the clues we need. Of all the clues that I truly believe are clues, all of them can be heard. Episode 4 is the only one that I have my doubts about. Once I fully understand all of the audio clues, if I'm still lost, then I'll start considering visual ones...

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 		ccl, episode 3, in my opinion, is THE essential episode. The problem with it is that there are many possibilities to interpret, all of which lead to a vast amount of clue matching. Many people (including myself) took lines to boroughs only to find we're not doing it right! So Welcome, read ALL the forum pages, and be prepared to get lost

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 		 Re: retracing steps
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For instance:
orange orange yellow = 34th Herald sq

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I don't think that this is orange or yellow or blue we are looking at in the Larry King.
According to my sets of oils, pastels, pencils and crayons those colors that are shown in the Larry the King are not yellow, orange, blue or even red.
Very Happy

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prodigalOne wrote:
ccl, episode 3, in my opinion, is THE essential episode. The problem with it is that there are many possibilities to interpret, all of which lead to a vast amount of clue matching. Many people (including myself) took lines to boroughs only to find we're not doing it right! So Welcome, read ALL the forum pages, and be prepared to get lost


I agree 100%! Nothing in this thread sounds right to me. You have to throw away too much stuff to make any of the current theories for ep 3 work. I had a brilliant idea this morning. If I'm right, then I should be able to work backwards from a certain point and see if I can get the ep 3 clues to make sense.

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prodigalOne wrote:
ccl, episode 3, in my opinion, is THE essential episode.


I disagree... if you fully understand the location of episode 5 (which I'm pretty sure has been spelled out earlier in the forum), then there's no point fretting over every detail of episode 3. Start at Columbus Circle and take the B line towards Dekalb Ave (Port of Courtland). Get off at Neck Rd, and listen to the announcers in Ep. 5, should bring you to Flatbush Ave. I won't tell you where I go from there Wink

From what I can tell, each episode leads you down a path to set you up for the next episode's clues. If an episode makes sense based on where the previous one left you off, then move on, no point in over-analyzing. Also, not everything in the videos is a clue. "all these things need to be ignored for that theory to make sense" is a good thing, not a bad thing. The best strategy is to consider the smallest set of clues possible, then, if you're stuck, look for more clues... there's no point taking 1000 little audio and visual tidbits and trying to fit them into a coherent theory.

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merelyviral wrote:

I disagree... if you fully understand the location of episode 5 (which I'm pretty sure has been spelled out earlier in the forum), then there's no point fretting over every detail of episode 3. Start at Columbus Circle and take the B line towards Dekalb Ave (Port of Courtland). Get off at Neck Rd, and listen to the announcers in Ep. 5, should bring you to Flatbush Ave. I won't tell you where I go from there Wink

From what I can tell, each episode leads you down a path to set you up for the next episode's clues. If an episode makes sense based on where the previous one left you off, then move on, no point in over-analyzing. Also, not everything in the videos is a clue. "all these things need to be ignored for that theory to make sense" is a good thing, not a bad thing. The best strategy is to consider the smallest set of clues possible, then, if you're stuck, look for more clues... there's no point taking 1000 little audio and visual tidbits and trying to fit them into a coherent theory.


Well, there is no doubt that there is a lot of over-analyzing. Even in the first two episodes there are clues that don't exactly fit. However, 90% of the clues did. I guess it's about matching enough clues to feel confident that you are in the right place. Seeing that I found out about WLOG almost three months after the last video aired and nobody has found the gold, I'm challenging the current theories.

I like the DeKalb Station area as the Port of Cortland because:
1) It's near the Lawrence St Station. "Those be lies Lawrence."
2) It's near where the blue line crosses the orange/yellow line from bottom to top. (I see no other way to interpret the line color clues.)

I believe I know what image we are drawing. I'm going to try to line it up with the possible path and see if it fits (it fits through the first few clues of ep 3).

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ccl28 wrote:

Well, there is no doubt that there is a lot of over-analyzing. Even in the first two episodes there are clues that don't exactly fit. However, 90% of the clues did. I guess it's about matching enough clues to feel confident that you are in the right place. Seeing that I found out about WLOG almost three months after the last video aired and nobody has found the gold, I'm challenging the current theories.

I like the DeKalb Station area as the Port of Cortland because:
1) It's near the Lawrence St Station. "Those be lies Lawrence."
2) It's near where the blue line crosses the orange/yellow line from bottom to top. (I see no other way to interpret the line color clues.)

I believe I know what image we are drawing. I'm going to try to line it up with the possible path and see if it fits (it fits through the first few clues of ep 3).


OOOHH, I like the Lawrence reference, I can't believe I didn't catch that... but I guess goes to show that you don't have to catch every clue to be on the right track Wink

My path doesn't draw anything neat, I wonder if that means I'm wrong Sad
At the moment, I don't think the actual shape of the path is important, but, I'm slowly re-considering... I'm trying to figure out what Crothers meant by "we should have been listening to Mulligan from the very beginning", and Mulligan did trace the captains foot as the "code of all codes" in the first episode. Mulligan does say a lot of silly things though, lol, I guess I have to go through them all Sad

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merelyviral wrote:

Mulligan did trace the captains foot as the "code of all codes" in the first episode.


My feeling is that the trace of their path is the "code of all codes". In other words, all the clues lead you along their path. That path goes nowhere near the treasure itself. However, the final picture will make the treasure's location obvious. That's how I would do it. Nobody would be able to guess the treasure's location by figuring out where just some of the clues take you. The more clues you get, the more accurate the path, the better the picture, the easier it is to figure out where it leads you.

I have a guess as to what the final image is. I can't be sure it's correct yet, but it is damn clever.

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ccl28 wrote:

That path goes nowhere near the treasure itself. However, the final picture will make the treasure's location obvious. That's how I would do it. Nobody would be able to guess the treasure's location by figuring out where just some of the clues take you.


my main issue with this theory is that an image can't give you a spot that is specific enough... unless it points you towards a landmark or building and once you arrive, you search around and there is some sort of 'marker' that you'd recognize. But then there's the danger of the marker getting damaged/stolen/moved.

From the path I've 'figured out' so far (which brings me well into ep. 8 ), it is extremely difficult to use the clues by themselves to figure out locations, that is, you can't really 'skip ahead' on the path. The clues only make sense if you have properly interpreted the clues that come before... and there are "aha! that is clever" moments when something that is said means something completely unexpected, which convinces me "yes, I must be in the correct spot right now". For example, pretty much every clue in eps. 1 & 2 that people have decided are 'solved' have this same property. I claim that the hunt proceeds in the same fashion.

But, as I mentioned above, I'm at a point where I'm willing to consider that the path traced out is yet another clue, to be inserted at the point where Crothers says "we should have been listening to Mulligan from the beginning", and if I'm at the right spot, the image drawn will 'make sense' and tell me how to proceed.

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 		Confused

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merelyviral wrote:

my main issue with this theory is that an image can't give you a spot that is specific enough... unless it points you towards a landmark or building and once you arrive, you search around and there is some sort of 'marker' that you'd recognize. But then there's the danger of the marker getting damaged/stolen/moved.


Of course, there's no way to be sure until the gold is found. However, here's why I think it can work:

1) Even if the map simply brings you to the final location, it won't be that specific either. There have to be some markers that show you exactly where to "dig" no matter what. If they're checking on the treasure, then they're maintaining any markers they've left as well.

2) If it's just a map, then it's hardly "the code of codes".

3) I can think of some images that would be pretty specific. For example, if path left a giant X, then that would be pretty specific.

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ccl28 wrote:
merelyviral wrote:

my main issue with this theory is that an image can't give you a spot that is specific enough... unless it points you towards a landmark or building and once you arrive, you search around and there is some sort of 'marker' that you'd recognize. But then there's the danger of the marker getting damaged/stolen/moved.


Of course, there's no way to be sure until the gold is found. However, here's why I think it can work:

1) Even if the map simply brings you to the final location, it won't be that specific either. There have to be some markers that show you exactly where to "dig" no matter what. If they're checking on the treasure, then they're maintaining any markers they've left as well.

2) If it's just a map, then it's hardly "the code of codes".

3) I can think of some images that would be pretty specific. For example, if path left a giant X, then that would be pretty specific.



Yeah I suppose you're right... at any rate, it's better to keep all ideas in play, no point ruling out the route-tracing theory if there's no solid proof against it (which I suppose there can't be until the whole thing is solved).

Either way, you still have a lot of path left to solve Wink

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 		OMG, I just made a huge leap forward. I have some mysterious numbers lining up perfectly. I had to skip ahead a bit, but now I can work my way back and see where things went off track.

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 		Ep2:

"Why did THEY cancel that show Firefly?"

THEY = FOX

FOX (News Corp) is right across from the Rockefeller Center Station.

"Mind the Gap in Your Face"

This has to be 34th Street/Herald Square. At the entrance/exit of the station is a huge GAP store.


I'm still working on some of the other earlier clues. I have some other solved ones for later on in ep 2. These guys definitely split up, but I'm trying to make sure I know where that happens.

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