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ccl28
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I think I've figure out the lottery #'s from ep6 and the compass from ep5. I'm trying to work my way backwards to fill in the blanks in episode 3. I think this is important to figure out what the overall picture is.

From what I can tell so far, at the start of episode 3, they're already split up. For this episode and the 5th episode, each clue applies to the location of a specific member of the crew. In ep3, when they are shown on a line color, they're on that line and the clue should be used in that context. This is working well so far. Although, Crothers is tricky as he doesn't give you a lot to go on in ep 3.

One of the big missing clues is Black Tom's Star. I think he is indicating stars on shoulder boards (military). Dekalb was a major general, which is technically two stars. A captain is one star (navy). Either he's at Dekalb, or at the Captain's location (which is also Dekalb at this point).

The missing pieces I have left now are:

1) spectacles - this is important to show you where Crothers is starting in ep. 3

2) The whole Captain/Crothers hat lighting sequence. It's fairly long, so it seems important. My last thinking was something to do with a fire captain, but that ran out of steam.

I didn't see any ideas on these out there, at least not ones that follow the Dekalb route.

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merelyviral
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From Ep. 6 "My throwing stars have no effect" - I interpret that to mean that the throwing star in ep. 3 is not a clue.

As for the hat lighting sequence... I put that in the category of "Crothers losing something", which usually has a fair-sized chunk devoted to it in each episode. I've treated those as episode-ordering clues, not path-defining clues.

I used to like the splitting up theory, but I never found any real evidence for it. So far, everything you've posted confirms that the B line makes sense (which I'm pretty sure is correct), but I guess you're holding back the juicy stuff Wink


oh, something random I came up with the other day... from Ep.6 "My blade shall singe like Nobunaga Fire". Interesting choice of wording, since "singe" is actually French for monkey. Napoleon is another French reference.

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ccl28
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merelyviral wrote:
I used to like the splitting up theory, but I never found any real evidence for it. So far, everything you've posted confirms that the B line makes sense (which I'm pretty sure is correct), but I guess you're holding back the juicy stuff Wink


I am holding back the big discoveries from the later episodes because I want to tackle it in order. I also want to level the playing field since I've only had less than a week to look at this stuff. The most important thing that I've learned is that the clues, although tricky, are not nearly as complicated as they've been made out to be on this forum. I feel like I'm in the zone where I can tell when I'm going too far to explain a clue and need to think simpler.

I'm certain they split up. I'll have proof one way or the other after I finish analyzing ep 5.

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kayimbo
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ugh
yep

Not really following this anymore. just decided to check in today.

I'm pretty much stunned that still no one thinks "the port of cortlandt" might refer to the cortlandt train stop...

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Re: ugh
yep

kayimbo wrote:

I'm pretty much stunned that still no one thinks "the port of cortlandt" might refer to the cortlandt train stop...


because it is written "Port of Courtland", and the "5 docks, but can't see all at the same time" doesn't make sense at cortlandt

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ccl28 wrote:

The whole Captain/Crothers hat lighting sequence. It's fairly long, so it seems important.


This has to represent the 1911 fire that wiped out Dreamland in Coney Island (I can confirm that destination in ep5). Dreamland here would be Crother's head. The pictures are black and white just like the ones that were taken back then. Not sure if the Captain mentions the hat is blue because Coney Island in on the water or just to note that the pics are black/white.

I'm nailing ep5 right now.

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ccl28 wrote:
ccl28 wrote:

The whole Captain/Crothers hat lighting sequence. It's fairly long, so it seems important.


This has to represent the 1911 fire that wiped out Dreamland in Coney Island (I can confirm that destination in ep5). Dreamland here would be Crother's head. The pictures are black and white just like the ones that were taken back then. Not sure if the Captain mentions the hat is blue because Coney Island in on the water or just to note that the pics are black/white.

I'm nailing ep5 right now.


The fire started at the hellgate ride, FYI

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prodigalOne wrote:

The fire started at the hellgate ride, FYI


black hell-type gates? Wink

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ccl28
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Had to backtrack into ep 3 again to fine tune the paths. I have Tom's path through ep5.

The Captain is on the B train and Mulligan is on the D train. I get this from:

Capt: "... FORKed journalistic tongue ..."
Mul: "Aye and that's RIGHT..."

There is a fork on the orange line and Mulligan goes right. This is further reinforced by the Captain and Mulligan 's news feeds trading places. In the end, the Captain is on the left and Mulligan is on the right.

There is still a question of whether Crothers is on the N or the Q (he's not on the R because he ends up in Coney Island). I think he has to be on the Q because the Captain is able to set his head on fire, so he must be really close.

I believe Mulligan's spectacles/face glasses reference is Times Square (a watch face is made of glass). It looked like the Q didn't stop there, but I found out that it does.

I tried to figure out exactly where Tom hops the blue line. The think Mario gives a clue to their location when he says "We're like the Hardy Boys." The Hardy Boys are Frank and Joe, but I can't match that to anything. I think this is unimportant and I'm just going to assume that Tom ninjas over to the blue line when it crosses the yellow.

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parrot's path

I'm starting to think that we have to also track the parrot's path as well. There are directions that I couldn't associate with any one character, but I just realized it seems to be directed at the parrot. He's with Mulligan in ep. 3 up until the end when he's with Larry King. I'm not yet sure where he starts in ep 5.

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Not to convolute things further
hat on fire

Just to muddy the waters further, there is an eyewitness account of the Slocum disaster where the captain jumped from the ship with his hat on fire. Googling "hat on fire" and "new york" should bring it up.

The General Slocum came to rest near Astoria, with many of the bodies washing ashore at North Brother Island. North Brother is extremely interesting as a place where pirates would most definitely bury gold, but is not a candidate as its closed to the public.

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Re: parrot's path

ccl28 wrote:
I'm starting to think that we have to also track the parrot's path as well. There are directions that I couldn't associate with any one character, but I just realized it seems to be directed at the parrot. He's with Mulligan in ep. 3 up until the end when he's with Larry King. I'm not yet sure where he starts in ep 5.


Okay, so the route that I think is for the parrot intersects the D line. I think the parrot just drops off the train at the end of ep3 onto that route. That intersection point is where he starts ep5.

The further I get into this game, the more respect I have for the designers. The way that they sneak in some additional clues to help you stay on the right course is really clever.

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ccl28
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Re: Not to convolute things further
hat on fire

mikeGuest wrote:
Just to muddy the waters further, there is an eyewitness account of the Slocum disaster where the captain jumped from the ship with his hat on fire. Googling "hat on fire" and "new york" should bring it up.

The General Slocum came to rest near Astoria, with many of the bodies washing ashore at North Brother Island. North Brother is extremely interesting as a place where pirates would most definitely bury gold, but is not a candidate as its closed to the public.


I am 100% certain that they're (most of the crew) headed to Coney Island at the end of ep3. All that info that seems random in ep5 is actually very useful. When interpreted correctly it's very specific.

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Re: Not to convolute things further
hat on fire

Yup, Silver Cup is also there in Astoria/LI City.

That is some interesting history. Oh, and that ship had a lot of bad incidents around the city.
Does anyone have a boat? That is one cool island with some huge birdies on it.

mikeGuest wrote:
Just to muddy the waters further, there is an eyewitness account of the Slocum disaster where the captain jumped from the ship with his hat on fire. Googling "hat on fire" and "new york" should bring it up.

The General Slocum came to rest near Astoria, with many of the bodies washing ashore at North Brother Island. North Brother is extremely interesting as a place where pirates would most definitely bury gold, but is not a candidate as its closed to the public.


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ccl28
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Re: Not to convolute things further
hat on fire

ccl28 wrote:

I am 100% certain that they're (most of the crew) headed to Coney Island at the end of ep3. All that info that seems random in ep5 is actually very useful. When interpreted correctly it's very specific.


Here's an example:

CROTHERS. STOLEN 15 WPPPT CHAMPIONSHIP BRACELETS.
Crothers: Hey, nice hat! Where's your legs?

Spoiler (Rollover to View):

He's on W15 between Neptune and Mermaid (Coney Island).


I have the paths for Tom, the parrot, and The Captain done. Working on finishing Crothers now. The clues for Mulligan are so subtle that I can only find bits and pieces of his path. I may skip the rest of Mulligan's for now and go to the next episode.

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