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[THEORY] The Pills
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iFaux
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[THEORY] The Pills
Provigil.

So, we all know about the reoccurring pills in the series. The ones that Tim takes, Masky probably takes, and that Jay found. Recently, after reading around about pills, I found something kind of interesting. There's a pill known as Provigil (brand name; actual name Modafinil) that's commonly prescribed to those with narcolepsy. Basically, it allows you to stay awake at night with feeling the effects of staying up all night. It also has some side effects, but they're good: It reduces impulsiveness, increases mental focus, and boosts the ability to recall things.
Staying up all night without feeling the effects of, well, staying up all night would be helpful from make sure the Operator murder in your sleep. It also increases your mental focus, which would definitely help you with those Operator problems also. But there's one specific thing - it boosts the ability to recall things. Since the Operator obviously influences amnesia to those around him; taking these while around the Operator would keep you remembering what the hell is going on, or taking them before/after you wake up in the middle of nowhere. Maybe, on the night of November 22nd, 2010, Jay forgot to take his pills.

Post your other pill theories here, too, if you have any.
also: sorry if this didn't deserve it's own thread.

PostPosted: Tue Dec 21, 2010 2:47 am
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Wow. While I don't think the pills will actually turn out to be a real prescription or anything, that's pretty much a perfect fit.

I think it's more likely that they're something custom that Tim somehow whipped up.

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That does fit in nicely, and those side effects would be useful. But I don't think it would be wise for the MH crew to introduce the idea that the pills were mislabeled. It would unnecessarily complicate the concept of the pills in the story.

It may seem narrow minded but I believe the pills are what they are labelled to be: ibuprofen.
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I doubt that this pill is involved in the story even though it would be a wonderful part of it. It's almost too perfect a fit.

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Distilled, I dont think he is referring to the ibuprofen, I think he is referring to the pills in season 1 that they had, and jay had found. Not the ones in season 2

but this is an awesome idea, for some reason I don't think they will use it though, maybe something with "similar effects" but I doubt they will ever name them

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iFaux
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Well, I didn't exactly mean that these are exactly what the pills are, but they could be based upon them; etc.

But yeah, it's definitely a perfect fit.

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For the record, I think that the pills that Jay has ARE ibuprofen. There's just too much evidence that they are for me to suspect a red herring.

As for the pills we encounter in Season I, we know Tim is taking pills, that he seems sick, and that we've seen him apparently have a seizure. I suggest that the pills that Tim takes are anti-seizure meds, and that these anti-seizure meds have the side effect of mitigating whatever effect the Operator has on human brains that leads to memory loss and thought interruption. I did some research into some common seizure meds, and apparently many of them also have anti-psychotic qualities to them as well. I'm'a quote a few posts I made several months ago:
JKatkina wrote:
Seizure medication works on the brain in some capacity. Perhaps that allowed Tim to escape damage at Slenderman's hands -- maybe Slenderman relies on brainfuckery to ultimately dispatch his victims, and Tim's medication messed with that progress. Hence why Masky seemed to tear Brian's house up pretty bad after his pills went missing, like he was looking for something. (I also think he tackled the fuck out of Jay when he came back to the house in 18 because he wanted his damn pills back and thought Jay had them. If the pills are for BOTH treating seizures AND thwarting Slendy, I mean, I imagine he'd be pretty desperate to get them back.)

JKatkina wrote:
From [url="http://yourtotalhealth.ivillage.com/seizure-medications.html?pageNum=2#2"]here[/url]:

"Most seizure medications control seizures by slowing down or stopping neuronal excitability in certain parts of the brain. This reduces the risk of neurons firing uncontrollably, which causes seizures. In some cases, seizure medications are used to treat other conditions such as neuropathy and certain mental health problems, although how it works to treat these conditions is not completely understood."

Used to treat: "bipolar disorder (also known as manic-depressive disorder), certain personality disorders and sleep disorders" Could be significant. If Slendy-sickness includes unfortunate psychological side effects, maybe Tim's medication exempted him from those as well. However, Jay does mention that Tim was acting strangely in 20. Perhaps:

"levetiracetam (Keppra)
• Increased risk of infection

• Behavioral disturbance" <--? I'm kind of reaching here, but hey, maybe.

"inhibit abnormal neuron activity in the brain" might be significant too. Slendy causes abnormal neuron activity perhaps? I wish they were more specific. I'll do some more reading.


"Common side effects of seizure medications may include:
...
• Clumsiness"


It turned out Keppra was not one of the drugs that has an effect on brain waves. However, Mithost added a few posts later:
Mithost wrote:
She suggested among other things that a Masky might be taking Tranxene (clorazepate), a benzodiazepine/GABA-A receptor agonist which is similar to valium. It is used for anxiety, withdrawal, mental health, insomnia, and seizures. Some conditions may become worse if the drug is abruptly stopped. It also increases suicide risk.


tl;dr: Tim's pills are anti-seizure Operator repellent

PostPosted: Tue Dec 21, 2010 5:19 pm
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iFaux
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1-upped in my own thread :b Anyways, yours seems more likely. Good job.
~embarrassed~

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I could've sworn that at some point the word "piracetam" was thrown around in regards to the pills, possibly by one of the creators?

It has some interesting effects, it "increases cognitive function" and has been tested on people who have had seizures.

Its side effects include- "anxiety, insomnia, irritability, headache, agitation, nervousness, and tremor."

Above is according to Wikipedia. And don't I love it.

I liked this idea, for the same reasons as JKat mentioned. Perhaps Tim was taking it because of his seizures (assumed), but then he realized that when it boosted his mental faculties, he remembered things from being around the Operator that other people didn't. So he took it as a way to keep investigating when other people were having their memory erased.

But all of this prolonged contact made him start to go crazy, and the side effects of the drug weren't helping, and so he turned into masky as we know him- insane.

But he's still investigating, and so he needs the pills. That, and possibly want of the tapes, caused him to break into Jay's house. And explains why the pill bottle there was empty.

So yeah, it's a thought. And the pills in the bag are probably ibuprofen.

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Apologies for my drug-related misunderstanding. Carry on!
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viagralol.



Yeah, ibuprofen. Cool
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ViolentViolet wrote:
viagralol.



Yeah, ibuprofen. Cool


Yeah, I think the pills have been Ibuprofen the whole time.

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ViolentViolet wrote:
viagralol.



Yeah, ibuprofen. Cool


Jay is THE manliest man ever, he has a n erection hard one
24/7.
Pfft viagra you're probably right...

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I think you're supposed to see a doctor after 4 hours, right? I wouldn't want Jay to risk his health. He's got to do important, healthy things like wander into abandoned houses and murder scenes, you know?

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TheBioGuy wrote:
I think you're supposed to see a doctor after 4 hours, right? I wouldn't want Jay to risk his health. He's got to do important, healthy things like wander into abandoned houses and murder scenes, you know?


inb4 Jay is Jacktehripperz

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