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vector
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Joined: 28 Aug 2004 Posts: 721 Location: Portland OR
I did a little projection work on my end, i dont know if you guys have already checked here, but after a projection switch, i place the point 181 meters to the north west of where mapquest puts it. This is assumeing that the point was taken in NAD27. Now id hate to keep sending you guys on wild axon hunts, but you have nothing better to do right? well here is a map of where i think it could possably be give or take 20m or so.
Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2004 12:58 pm
Flidget Jerome
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vector wrote:
I did a little projection work on my end, i dont know if you guys have already checked here, but after a projection switch, i place the point 181 meters to the north west of where mapquest puts it. This is assumeing that the point was taken in NAD27. Now id hate to keep sending you guys on wild axon hunts, but you have nothing better to do right? well here is a map of where i think it could possably be give or take 20m or so.
. . . Ooooh. I'm not sure if we've tried there. The Wardour/Meard point is about a block south of that (the little dotted lines on the map would be Meard Street and Bourchier Street. I guess they're like that because they're pedestrian only).
Can anyone else remember if we checked that area for phones? I know there wasn't much on Wardour, but what about Duck Lane and that unnamed east close?
Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2004 1:22 pm
richchestmat
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Joined: 25 Aug 2004 Posts: 50 Location: London
I set Mapinfo to use NAD27 (Continental America) and it put the point in a chinese restaurant in 29 Lilse Street at the Little Newport St junction behind the Warner Village Cinema and close to Leicester Square Tube.
From the 1st GPS point that's walk to Gerrard St (China Town), turn left towards the pagoda and then right and it's at the end of that street.
EDIT: Ironic really since Greenwich is 0.
Do you even want a map this time?
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Posted: Thu Sep 30, 2004 7:25 am
Flidget Jerome
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richchestmat wrote:
Do you even want a map this time?
We're at . . .what, 5 different possible coordinate points now?
I say we hire one of those mediums who are good at finding your car keys.
Posted: Thu Sep 30, 2004 7:45 am
Flidget Jerome
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I'm heading for the Duck Street location today. I simply don't have the courage to spend 10 minutes in a Chinese Restaurant waiting for their phone to ring. Service in Chinatown isn't the friendliest even when you are paying for food.
Posted: Thu Sep 30, 2004 11:29 am
vector
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Joined: 28 Aug 2004 Posts: 721 Location: Portland OR
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I set Mapinfo to use NAD27 (Continental America) and it put the point in a chinese restaurant in 29 Lilse Street at the Little Newport St junction behind the Warner Village Cinema and close to Leicester Square Tube.
From the 1st GPS point that's walk to Gerrard St (China Town), turn left towards the pagoda and then right and it's at the end of that street.
richchestmat, do you have a london roads data set that i can get ahold of? It has been difficult for me to work on this without any good data. I found major roads but its not specific enough.
Also i find it odd that you place the projected point in the opposite direction that i do. And not to question your GIS skills, as i could eaisly be something that I did wrong, but i wanted to figure out why we got such different results. In Mapinfo, did you reproject your roads data to NAD27 as well as the point? In anycase ill try to get some time to look over what i did to get my point.
Posted: Thu Sep 30, 2004 1:07 pm
richchestmat
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Joined: 25 Aug 2004 Posts: 50 Location: London
I dunno. We have a workspace for London and the TRLN (all Transport for London stuff) and I went ot Map and Options and Projection and changed it to Latitude/Longitude and got the Meard St junction (Slug & Lettuce) and then changed the Lat/Long sub option fo rNAD27 (US) and got that new chinese restaurant spot.
I did notice that it listed the 0.131 first in this mode which seemed weird. I already tried speaking to our GIS techs but I can't really bug them too much as I'm abusing the system already.
So if you know MapInfo then I'm all ears. Have a look at the files on my website if you haven't already. I won't be able to send table and workspace info though since there' might be info in there that shouldn't be freely distributed.
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Posted: Thu Sep 30, 2004 3:27 pm
Flidget Jerome
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Went to the corner of Berwick and Wardour (the location formerly known as Duck Street). No joy. The closest phones were a pair two blocks east on Berwick and one two blocks north on Wardour. 'Sod this!' said I, and went home.
Posted: Thu Sep 30, 2004 4:29 pm
Arana
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Joined: 20 Aug 2004 Posts: 353 Location: shallow grave
New Flash!!! London Team!
A second location
10:07 PDT 51.509997 -000.134800
apparently close to the first,
10:07 PDT 51.512767 -000.131950
has been added for the the_labyrinth . It goes hot in an hour so get cracking!!!
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Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2004 12:13 pm
Wishi-san
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Maybe this one is more specific than last time.
The old coord has now vanished from the list.
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Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2004 12:21 pm
Adrian
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Joined: 26 Sep 2002 Posts: 69 Location: Oxford/London, UK
I'm up for checking it out on Sunday or Monday, together with GPS device, natch.
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Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2004 12:50 pm
bcriswell
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Joined: 01 Sep 2004 Posts: 136 Location: Oxford, England
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Looks like it is in Piccadilly Circus? Anyone know a good staging area for tomorrow around 5ish?
I was able to borrow a GPS unit from a friend. I just need to get it up and running (It attaches to his old Palm V, so I need to locate some software for it).
Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2004 2:23 pm
Rogue Element
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Joined: 24 Aug 2004 Posts: 59 Location: London
Once more into the breach dear friends I guess. I'll come along tomorrow but I doubt we'll need many people. If the coordinates give a big landmark like that it's really improbable that its on some side street.
I've got a good feeling about this one.
Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2004 5:10 pm
Flidget Jerome
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bcriswell wrote:
Looks like it is in Piccadilly Circus? Anyone know a good staging area for tomorrow around 5ish?
There's a lot of restaurants but they're always crowded. Personally I'd go for somewhere in lower Regent Street where it's quiet, maybe on the northeast corner with Carlton Street.
I'll be able to make it tomorrow, but I think we'll have a fight on our hands just getting a free phonebox, so I can make it Sunday and Monday too if necessary.
Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2004 5:22 pm
vector
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Well good luck with the new axon London hunter. Be sure to bring some kind of recording device so we can hear the first non US call! Im sure that this one will work for you. I wish that my GIS skills had been of more help (probably sent you on more wild axon hunts then nessicary) Ill be sure to lift a pint of the one of the many fine Portland Oregon micro brews to you guy for stickin it out.
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Posted: Sat Oct 02, 2004 12:22 am
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