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elizibar
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Luipaard wrote:
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Almost certainly, but the question would be, what?

We know the boys are a fan of zombies [like, this is irrefutable proof, I have it]. Perhaps HABIT is some form of infection?


Interesting idea. How would HABIT be spread? Through thought, word, and deed? Maybe Evan is the carrier and spreads HABIT by zapping people with his red laser eyes. Razz


Memetic virus.

The idea gets in, and slowly converts its host into HABIT

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elizibar wrote:
Luipaard wrote:
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Almost certainly, but the question would be, what?

We know the boys are a fan of zombies [like, this is irrefutable proof, I have it]. Perhaps HABIT is some form of infection?


Interesting idea. How would HABIT be spread? Through thought, word, and deed? Maybe Evan is the carrier and spreads HABIT by zapping people with his red laser eyes. Razz


Memetic virus.

The idea gets in, and slowly converts its host into HABIT


Does that make HABIT "only" an idea then, like the idea that produces inventions or stories? Or is it an "intelligent" idea that controls the speed of the conversion process?

(In which case, if Evan is the furthest along in this conversion, is it nearing completion or only just begun since he has yet to show signs that the gang is overtly uncomfortable with?)
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 		The whole memetic virus thing makes me think of the movie Pontypool. Certain words become infected, and when spoken, turn their host into part of this hivemind.

Crazy stuff, I recommend checking it out.

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I still maintain Vince is HABIT.


What is the theory as to why we think Vinnie is HABIT?

I'll tell you the theory. Vince is too down to earth, if you think about it. He's handled this, by far, the best, out of the boys. don't you think, that he's handling their situation, far too well? In one of the leaked videos, (not saying they're cannon by the way, just stating) Evan says he's told to do horrible things by slendy, not something else. and if Evan is able to resist Slendy, (though not by much) don't you think he could resist HABIT? Then, we see him, and Vince pulling jeff under the water in a hidden video, meaning they (possibly) both have something plaguing them. Just my epileptic tree.
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 		And I just can't get over the face that his phone was in the craw space.

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And I just can't get over the face that his phone was in the craw space.

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 		Holy crap, it's like we're on page 500 all over again, same thing came up then.

Habit being a personified Jungian Shadow would make a lot of sense, especially if the trials are his memetic way of instilling bad Habits in other people.

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 		Though if HABIT is a memeatic virus of sorts he'd need at least 1 person to believe that he existed other than as a virus. Which leads me to think that the Trials are his way of roping up enough people to believe he exists to get stronger. The people eliminated would still have him in the back of their head as evidenced by those still posting and such.

If he is seeking to destroy our humanity I wonder if it is based off the fact he could easily take over with you then.
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DZombar wrote:
Though if HABIT is a memeatic virus of sorts he'd need at least 1 person to believe that he existed other than as a virus. Which leads me to think that the Trials are his way of roping up enough people to believe he exists to get stronger. The people eliminated would still have him in the back of their head as evidenced by those still posting and such.

If he is seeking to destroy our humanity I wonder if it is based off the fact he could easily take over with you then.


sorry, don't really have anything to add, but i wanted to note that this made my brain hurt. i mean, it's a simple enough concept; we're doing this for slendy, more or less. but...gah. it's different when the entity is talking back at you. @__@
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 		Yay for the new and shiny thread 8D Pokin my head in just to throw out some speculation~

So, in my English class today, we were talking about tragic heros, and what a protagonist would have to have in order to be considered one.
My teacher said that the hero would have to be well respected and well liked within the society he lives in, and would also need to have some sort of flaw...and this got me thinking. About the "Enter the Tragic Hero and his unattainable companion" thing from way back when.

We all respect and like each one of the boys, correct? Maybe the tragic hero isn't just one of them...but all of them.

My only question is do each of them have a flaw? I realize Evan's is probably his...insanity, and/or split personality, if that can be considered a flaw. Jeff's may be his sad panda-ness...but what about Vince? Confused

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 		Vince could very well be his denial of things. Think about it he's been known to deny things longer than the other boys. That could be his flaw.
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AlyssWolf wrote:
Yay for the new and shiny thread 8D Pokin my head in just to throw out some speculation~

So, in my English class today, we were talking about tragic heros, and what a protagonist would have to have in order to be considered one.
My teacher said that the hero would have to be well respected and well liked within the society he lives in, and would also need to have some sort of flaw...and this got me thinking. About the "Enter the Tragic Hero and his unattainable companion" thing from way back when.

We all respect and like each one of the boys, correct? Maybe the tragic hero isn't just one of them...but all of them.

My only question is do each of them have a flaw? I realize Evan's is probably his...insanity, and/or split personality, if that can be considered a flaw. Jeff's may be his sad panda-ness...but what about Vince? Confused


Excellent thoughts, Alyss!

I'd quibble about Evan's flaw, though. Insanity and split-personalities isn't something that he can get a handle on, which is what a flaw is. Odysseus had hubris, which was often his downfall specifically because he didn't reign it in. The flaw is tragic because the hero could do something about it if he were willing, or even just aware. Therefore insanity doesn't qualify. (Forgive my pedantic nature, I just stepped off two semesters of studying Greek tragedies.)

If anything I'd say that the boys share the same flaw: denial. They run away from their problems. Throughout the series we have seen their multiple attempts at ignoring what's been going on.

They take Evan out hiking to get his mind off someone breaking into his house. Vinnie and Jeff try to hide the shrine of purple tape and burned pictures from him because "Evan will freak, and he's just now getting back to normal" and they don't like it when "normal" is disrupted. Vinnie insists that they keep moving forward with their series and deliberately ignore the strange things happening to them.

Alex hides his wounds from his brother, and cannot accept that his parents are dead. Jeff is convinced that Jessa is still alive, despite all the passing time, and while that's noble, is it really healthy? Meanwhile, the Rake has been locked up in Alex's room since November and they've barely spoken of it since.

They seem to be trying to be proactive and move past it, but that doesn't mean they will succeed. So yes: I think they all share the tragic flaw of denial.

ETA: Almost forgot Evan's example! Anyway. Evan doesn't tell his friends when something is going wrong with him. If he's aware of the fact that he's been acting strangely, then he hides it very well. He's also an enthusiastic participant in their attempts to forget everything strange happening to them.
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Luipaard wrote:

Excellent thoughts, Alyss!

I'd quibble about Evan's flaw, though. Insanity and split-personalities isn't something that he can get a handle on, which is what a flaw is. Odysseus had hubris, which was often his downfall specifically because he didn't reign it in. The flaw is tragic because the hero could do something about it if he were willing, or even just aware. Therefore insanity doesn't qualify. (Forgive my pedantic nature, I just stepped off two semesters of studying Greek tragedies.)

If anything I'd say that the boys share the same flaw: denial. They run away from their problems. Throughout the series we have seen their multiple attempts at ignoring what's been going on.

They take Evan out hiking to get his mind off someone breaking into his house. Vinnie and Jeff try to hide the shrine of purple tape and burned pictures from him because "Evan will freak, and he's just now getting back to normal" and they don't like it when "normal" is disrupted. Vinnie insists that they keep moving forward with their series and deliberately ignore the strange things happening to them.

Alex hides his wounds from his brother, and cannot accept that his parents are dead. Jeff is convinced that Jessa is still alive, despite all the passing time, and while that's noble, is it really healthy? Meanwhile, the Rake has been locked up in Alex's room since November and they've barely spoken of it since.

They seem to be trying to be proactive and move past it, but that doesn't mean they will succeed. So yes: I think they all share the tragic flaw of denial.


That makes a whole lot of sense, well done good sir Very Happy or ma'am

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