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Chukwa
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 		Anyone else take note in how the distortion was different? For some reason, in this series, whenever the camera would catch a glimpse of (what we thought) was Slenderman, instead of the normal visual tears and such, we would get this weird red and green stuff (which I doubt was a happy holidays message). Now it's black and white, somewhat more in line with the originals. Are we possibly dealing with two separate entities?

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 		Operator symbols ahoy. I did rather like the giant one walked out into the snow... very interesting.
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Chukwa wrote:
Anyone else take note in how the distortion was different? For some reason, in this series, whenever the camera would catch a glimpse of (what we thought) was Slenderman, instead of the normal visual tears and such, we would get this weird red and green stuff (which I doubt was a happy holidays message). Now it's black and white, somewhat more in line with the originals. Are we possibly dealing with two separate entities?



It's a lot more likely that they read our complaints and changed their style.
Personally, I never had a problem with a green-red, only because it was fresh compared to other series. But, admittedly, it's just not as creepy as standard distortion. No one will do it better than MH, their varied intensities of distortion make all the difference. With other series it's mostly normal, normal, OMGSTATICEARRAPE, normal, normal, BLEEEEEEEEEEEEE, normal, etc.

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Chukwa wrote:
Anyone else take note in how the distortion was different? For some reason, in this series, whenever the camera would catch a glimpse of (what we thought) was Slenderman, instead of the normal visual tears and such, we would get this weird red and green stuff (which I doubt was a happy holidays message). Now it's black and white, somewhat more in line with the originals. Are we possibly dealing with two separate entities?



It's a lot more likely that they read our complaints and changed their style.
Personally, I never had a problem with a green-red, only because it was fresh compared to other series. But, admittedly, it's just not as creepy as standard distortion. No one will do it better than MH, their varied intensities of distortion make all the difference. With other series it's mostly normal, normal, OMGSTATICEARRAPE, normal, normal, BLEEEEEEEEEEEEE, normal, etc.


I've seen some of the other up-and-comers use some pretty creative distortions. But that's part of the problem, really. Anything that we're not used to, we deride, and anything we are used to, we call copying.

I'm not talking about anyone specific, but it does seem to be symptomatic of a forum-wide trend to pressure newer side-stories to be as similar to Marble Hornets and everymanHYBRID as possible, without actually reusing any plot or technique. And that seems impossible to me, especially when we tend to take it for granted that added traits of Mr. Thin in new videos become part of the mythos in general.

Sure, I have my limits, too. There are certain points where I just think that the poor bastard just shouldn't have picked up a camera in the first place (and from what I've seen of Dark Harvest thus far, it hasn't reached that point yet; a better example of this would be Apple of Our Eye), but in any case, I think we should be looking at these like they're the creative works of someone who wouldn't pick up a camera at all if they didn't care at least a little bit about entertaining someone.

And hell, if we were to do that, we might avoid creating another jonclubs. Sure, he flipped shit because of something unreasonable, but he only really flipped shit after, what, two or three months of constant derision. And that story had a lot of good elements. But we focused on the negative ones, and as such, we bear some of the responsibility of that drama and bullshit. We helped create it.

Sorry for the long-winded post, but...the Slenderman stories give me something to do with my boring life, and bring a little bit of excitement. I currently plan on working on shooting my own vlog when I pick up a camera (which brings up some difficulties, but that's for another thread), and so I watch everything I can, hoping to learn whatever I can learn. (Lesson #1, learned from Marble Hornets: shoot all the footage that you can as soon as you can, and edit it all, and do it all before a single video is released. This helps to keep week- and month-long delays to a minimum.)

But if I were in the position of some of these guys, I wouldn't want to bother making a story at all. There's no point in it if every single point of comparison is going to be lambasted until the cows come home.

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 		Just posting to say that I'm on board with this one and liking it a lot so far. I wrote to them on their Youtube channel about some things pertaining to Michaelangelo 1516, this is the message, in case anyone else is interested;

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Hello,
I'm an observer of your channel and here's what it could mean with 'Michaelangelo 1516'

1. Michaelangelo stayed in Rome from 1508 to 1516 when he finished painting the Sistine Chapel ceiling. He then moved onto Florence in that same year.

2. He created, but never finished, two sculptures Rebellious Slave and Dying Slave, which is interesting as they are obviously from the same theme and there are two of them. Maybe they could pertain to each of you. Both of these now reside in the Louvre in Paris. He also created a sculpture of Moses in this time, which was powerful and commanding compared to the two slave's frailty.

3. In 1516, the new pope, Leo X (Giovanni de'Medici) commissioned Michelangelo to design a facade for San Lorenzo, the Medici parish church in Florence. The commission came to nothing (the facade is unfinished to this day), but this unfulfilled scheme led to his two earliest architectural masterpieces, the Medici Chapel (or New Sacristy) attached to San Lorenzo and the Laurentian Library. Again neither was to be finished.

4. He also worked on the Julius Monument during this time.

5. 1516 is written MDXVI in Roman Numerals and it was a leap year on a Tuesday.

Its interesting if you look at it in a different light though, and do not take Michaelangelo as the name of the artist, but separate the two words. Michael and Angelo. Especially considering you've already had angel references with Gabriel. Michael the Archangel is the field commander of the Army Of God and the name Michael means "Who Is Like God". In The Book Of Revelation he leads God's Army against Satan's forces and also comes to Gabriel's aid in Book of Daniel. In the War of the Sons of Light Against the Sons of Darkness, Michael is described as the prince of light, leading forces of God against the darkness of evil, who is led by Belial. He is described as the "viceroy of heaven".


Probably stabbing at nothing there, but eh, good to cover most things, right?

Also, someone sent them a message saying that "Kind Von Der Ritter" means 'Child Of The Night'... I just wanted to ask, isn't Der Ritter 'The Knight'... rather than... 'The Night'...? I'm not sure which the person who sent them the message said, as it was not clarified if it was with an N or a K, but yeah... just thought I'd mention it.

Edit; It may be nothing, but if it is 'Child Of The Knight' then it would be interesting, considering the whole Michaelangelo 1516 thing. As someone else mentioned; Pope Julius II - the tomb of which Michaelangelo worked on in 1516, and into which the unfinished sculptures Rebellious Slave and Dying Slave were to be put - he was known as "The Fearsome Pope" and "The Warrior Pope". Warrior = Knight... eh?...eh?

I'm grasping at straws, hah.

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 		I liked the red and green distortion. It was different, and it really caught my attention! I hope they don't give it up.

Still, this series is building up to something really awesome. I'm intrigued with the artistic angle that they're pursuing.
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Cougar Draven wrote:
equal_opposite wrote:
Chukwa wrote:
Anyone else take note in how the distortion was different? For some reason, in this series, whenever the camera would catch a glimpse of (what we thought) was Slenderman, instead of the normal visual tears and such, we would get this weird red and green stuff (which I doubt was a happy holidays message). Now it's black and white, somewhat more in line with the originals. Are we possibly dealing with two separate entities?



It's a lot more likely that they read our complaints and changed their style.
Personally, I never had a problem with a green-red, only because it was fresh compared to other series. But, admittedly, it's just not as creepy as standard distortion. No one will do it better than MH, their varied intensities of distortion make all the difference. With other series it's mostly normal, normal, OMGSTATICEARRAPE, normal, normal, BLEEEEEEEEEEEEE, normal, etc.


I've seen some of the other up-and-comers use some pretty creative distortions. But that's part of the problem, really. Anything that we're not used to, we deride, and anything we are used to, we call copying.

I'm not talking about anyone specific, but it does seem to be symptomatic of a forum-wide trend to pressure newer side-stories to be as similar to Marble Hornets and everymanHYBRID as possible, without actually reusing any plot or technique. And that seems impossible to me, especially when we tend to take it for granted that added traits of Mr. Thin in new videos become part of the mythos in general.

Sure, I have my limits, too. There are certain points where I just think that the poor bastard just shouldn't have picked up a camera in the first place (and from what I've seen of Dark Harvest thus far, it hasn't reached that point yet; a better example of this would be Apple of Our Eye), but in any case, I think we should be looking at these like they're the creative works of someone who wouldn't pick up a camera at all if they didn't care at least a little bit about entertaining someone.

And hell, if we were to do that, we might avoid creating another jonclubs. Sure, he flipped shit because of something unreasonable, but he only really flipped shit after, what, two or three months of constant derision. And that story had a lot of good elements. But we focused on the negative ones, and as such, we bear some of the responsibility of that drama and bullshit. We helped create it.

Sorry for the long-winded post, but...the Slenderman stories give me something to do with my boring life, and bring a little bit of excitement. I currently plan on working on shooting my own vlog when I pick up a camera (which brings up some difficulties, but that's for another thread), and so I watch everything I can, hoping to learn whatever I can learn. (Lesson #1, learned from Marble Hornets: shoot all the footage that you can as soon as you can, and edit it all, and do it all before a single video is released. This helps to keep week- and month-long delays to a minimum.)

But if I were in the position of some of these guys, I wouldn't want to bother making a story at all. There's no point in it if every single point of comparison is going to be lambasted until the cows come home.



Aw jeeze man, I wasn't trying to compare. I appreciate its freshness compared to other slendervlogs. I simply stated that varying the degrees of intensity is important. It's not so much about comparing other vlogs to MH, simply expressing something that I think MH got right, and others have failed to take note. It's about the quality itself. It's annoying to suddenly have distortion fly at you. Slendervogs don't fit with jump-scare style horror, they fit with creepy suspense. And distortion in itself is not scary, so it shouldn't cause me to jump. I want to see a camera go a little nuts, then go even more nuts as the slenderrape increases, not spaz out every time SM is on camera or nearby.

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 		Ok. New video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uH9clmj6n4E&feature=uploademail

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 		Well, one thing we can confirm from the new video is that

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They don't exactly have the best effects for Slendy. He looked like a cardboard cut out or some kind of scarecrow. I realize Slendy vlogs don't exactly have high production budgets, but what have should a significant reveal for the series instead completely ruined my immersion and suspension of disbelief. Not to mention it's spoiled in the description.


But oh well. I still have hopes for this series.

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GuestJim wrote:
Well, one thing we can confirm from the new video is that

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They don't exactly have the best effects for Slendy. He looked like a cardboard cut out or some kind of scarecrow. I realize Slendy vlogs don't exactly have high production budgets, but what have should a significant reveal for the series instead completely ruined my immersion and suspension of disbelief. Not to mention it's spoiled in the description.


But oh well. I still have hopes for this series.


*should have been a

My bad.

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 		I would prefer it if they made Slendy look a little more subtle. Maybe they'll take that on board. But, no biggie really, I'm enjoying the story-telling.

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 		Seriously? Sad
Slendy looks like a large plushy.
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Slendery wrote:
Seriously? Sad
Slendy looks like a large plushy.


Clearly this isn't Slenderman, but yet another side-villian within this series soon to be known as: "Pilgrim-man"



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 		That has got to be the worst slenderman I've ever seen.

HE LOOKS LIKE A FREAKING SNOWMAN.
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 		Ooooh dear. I suspect they've been forced to work with some constraints - maybe they don't want to give Slendy a real suit because it'd get messed up in the snow, maybe (if that's an actual person rather than a scarecrow) their Slender actor wanted to wear more warm clothes than just a business suit, but still. No. If you can't get an actual person in a real suit outside in the thick snow to appear in your Slendy video then shoot it the hell inside or don't show Slendy at all.,

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