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Hello, Rolling Eyes

I'm busy thinking up a ruff script to surprise my wife with. To give her an experience of a life time. She likes games in general, but she doesn't know what ARG is, I myself am just busy with it since a couple of weeks to.

I've got some question in my head of which I can't think of finding a answer myself;
1) using a false identity, to make reservation (hotel room,restaurant) Is this illegal? If yes, are there ways around the problem?

2) Because in the script I'm playing a small criminal within a large world wide organization, she gets contacted to play a secret agent to spy upon myself to get access to the criminal organization. but what if she thinks it's all really real, because she does not know it's just a ARG, she mite go to the real cops with the fictional made proof.
How do I avoid or prevent my wife of going to the cops?

Yes i know that it is better to have played one or more ARGs myself before I try to organize a ARG, let alone one of the magnitude. (world-wide) But she always knows what I'm busy with, and then she does know what an ARG is, and "BANG" there goes the element of surprise. She things of life like Nicolas van Orthen does in the movie "The Game", so that's why she can't know about any of this. Not easy, if I tell you she's a housewife. No wonder life thens to be boring!! LOL
But my principle in life is always been that anybody can do anything if you put your mind to it! Especially if it's for the love of your life! Wink

I hoop of completing my ARG scrip / organization by the end of April 2011!! This gives me enough time I think. So I can use all the help I can find! Interested?! reply on this post or pm my! Any one is welcome, from any place in the world, the more deferent places the better.

Thx in advance!
Victor Wink

PostPosted: Tue Dec 21, 2010 11:27 am
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Victor Vinchennzo
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Do & Don'ts in ARG

Hello, my again..

Embarassed I posted this new topic, but it shows "guest" as title of submitter. No avatar, no pm button, nor a edit button for that matter! So I reply my own post first. this way hoping this post is identified as my post.

I thought I was logged in correctly, seems now something went wrong. Yea well, that's live I guess!

Hoping upon a reply.

Victor Vinchennzo Cool

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Dominic1978
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Hi Victor,
The risk that people not familiar with args think it's real is the reason you should throw in something that will make them understand it's a game.
For example; what if the "evidence" comes from an alien or time traveler?

As for it being illegal to make reservations under a false name, this will depend on the rules of your country. You could visit the hotel and explain the manager that you're working on a surprise for your wife.
If that fails you could always make a reservation under her name as she will be the one going there, right?

Hope this helps and good luck with your game!

Dominic

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Victor Vinchennzo
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Oké, so to eliminate the risk I have to build some part in the script like they did in the movie (The Game).

For the illegal part gone check with a lawyer what's possible in Belgium in relation to the law. Because imitating a criminal without doing anything that looks even remotely suspicious, is no imitation at all. Bud it's going to be very difficult to give her the illusion I'm doing illegal things (like a criminal normally does). So if I know exactly what I should or should not do in relation to the law, or at least knowing it better then my wife, the illusion is complete.

Thx for the reply

Victor

PostPosted: Wed Dec 29, 2010 8:30 am
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cyng
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so I am assuming the reason you want a false identity for the hotel room, is you don't care who your credit card sees but that your wife discovers the false identity?

the easy way around that would be to ask the hotel to lie for you: you book it in your name, but ask that if anyone asks they lie; you don't have to give any reasons

but i don't know if that is what you are talking about

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Sounds like the plot from True Lies.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 04, 2011 10:25 pm
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Victor Vinchennzo
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@ konamouse, that's because it's based upon that!!! Wink Take; The Game, True Lies, Mission Impossible, put it in a blender and mix it, then flavor it with a little Godfather or Spectre(007) and voila you have the ARG of a life time! Hopefully....! Confused

@cyng, actually yes and now, I want to prevent her from finding out who booked and payed for the room, so if that depents upon the good will of others to lie for me, than that's a risk. But never the less it's something I was also thinking of doing at first. Maybe I could use a fictional organization name, this way they don't have to lie, And I'm not risk my cover! But like I stated previously, gone check this with someone who knows the law inside out! I'll let you guys know what is possible.

Thx guys
Victor

PostPosted: Wed Jan 05, 2011 1:47 am
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cyng
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yeah that can be a real risk

one time, i was sent a bouquet of flowers in game, and suspected a character...i called the florist, and she gave me the name without any pumping at all

the pm had a shit; because he had used his credit card, it was his name...he never thought to fake it (I found out later)

but as soon as I heard the name, I knew it was the pm and not the character and decided not to announce his real name to everyone


that being said: there must be a way: cheaters/movie stars/etc. do it all the time

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Re: Do & Don'ts in ARG

Anonymous wrote:
1) using a false identity, to make reservation (hotel room,restaurant) Is this illegal? If yes, are there ways around the problem?


I don't see why it would be a problem with a restaurant: you're not paying anything beforehand. Every time I've walked up to the podium for a reservation (even at places like Disney where have a computerized reservation system across the whole resort), I've never had to prove who I am. Heck, several times I've used assumed names myself for amusement amongst friends ("Table ready for... 'Plague'?" "It's French...")

Hotels would definitely be an issue... It's not so much the reservation under an assumed name (in hotels with "hourly rates", people use assumed names all the time), but when it comes to having to pay you have to show ID. Even if you're paying cash, these days a state ID is required in most major hotels.

Hotels, BY LAW, are not allowed to reveal information about their tenants to anyone other than law enforcement. But some people manning the desk are stupid sometimes, and will reveal information they shouldn't to people they think might be family.

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2) Because in the script I'm playing a small criminal within a large world wide organization, she gets contacted to play a secret agent to spy upon myself to get access to the criminal organization. but what if she thinks it's all really real, because she does not know it's just a ARG, she mite go to the real cops with the fictional made proof.
How do I avoid or prevent my wife of going to the cops?


You're treading on thin ice here...

Several games that were obviously fictional ARGs have been reported to the authorities for one reason or another, and that has led to their shutdown and quite an ordeal for the PMs.
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you have to use a real credit card to make a hotel reservation.
when you check in you can change which card you use for the room, but the real hotels don't let you pay cash, you have to have a CC on file (incase you steal something out of the mini bar, etc).
don't think you want to check into an hourly motel. skanky joints.
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konamouse wrote:
you have to use a real credit card to make a hotel reservation.
when you check in you can change which card you use for the room, but the real hotels don't let you pay cash, you have to have a CC on file (incase you steal something out of the mini bar, etc).
don't think you want to check into an hourly motel. skanky joints.


You can pay for the room in cash, but they would require a credit card hold for incidentals. Some of the lesser hotels (not the major nationwide chains) will allow you to deposit the credit card hold (around $500) in cash, and will return to you the unused amount upon checkout, but that's extremely rare.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 9:34 am
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Victor Vinchennzo
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Thanks guys for the info, much appreciated!! But like stated above, hopefully I can find some time to contact some lawyer to ask my questions.

Gone let you guys know what he shes about all of this. Wink

Don't wonna get in trouble like the PM's did which Nighthawk mentions.

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