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ArkyMcArkArk
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Philosopher Xu wrote:
If Masky is on J's side, ie. protecting him, pointing him in the right direction, etc., then for one thing he becomes a lot less sinister and we should be happy when he appears. Also if that is true, then why can't he communicate properly to J? I have my doubts that Masky is a benevolent figure.


I doubt he's benevolent. However, it is QUITE possible he doesn't actually have any interest in hurting Jay, just using him. It's in Masky's best interest, if Jay will "lead him to the Ark" to keep Jay alive. However, this doesn't mean he has to Like him, or even have to keep him happy or healthy, just keep him going.

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 		So I'm not sure how popular this train of thought is, but I think that TTA and Mask are two separate entities, and Mask works on the side of the Operator.

But regardless, I was just thinking about how... abnormally we've seen Mask move. In our first view of him, he comes off the couch like he's coming out of sprinter's blocks. He moves kind of jaggedly, and he goes on all fours coming off the couch. And then we have the ridiculous Spiderman pose in Jay's room. And even in this, we have the slow "Fingers over the door" way of opening it, and then the limp.

What if Mask is being used like a puppet? And I mean this in the most literal way possible. Someone is actively pulling the strings, making him move, in a very awkward fashion.

I'm sure someone will tell me I'm wrong, but it's just food for thought.

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ArkyMcArkArk wrote:
Philosopher Xu wrote:
If Masky is on J's side, ie. protecting him, pointing him in the right direction, etc., then for one thing he becomes a lot less sinister and we should be happy when he appears. Also if that is true, then why can't he communicate properly to J? I have my doubts that Masky is a benevolent figure.


I doubt he's benevolent. However, it is QUITE possible he doesn't actually have any interest in hurting Jay, just using him. It's in Masky's best interest, if Jay will "lead him to the Ark" to keep Jay alive. However, this doesn't mean he has to Like him, or even have to keep him happy or healthy, just keep him going.
I doubt he plans on hurting him. He's had numerous opportunities, once even when Jay was sleeping.

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 		throwing this out there as I havent had time to read through all the pages, but 1102, read it backwards it's 2011, saw that people were wondering about it, just threw that out there.

Oh, and Masky being back and seemingly injured is AWESOME! Very Happy

I think it was his blood on that rock.

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 		Re: The safe code
ArkyMcArkArk wrote:
Thank you! It was annoying the living daylights out of me that no one was speculating that Jessica's safe might also have stuff. But really, this seems to be a fairly logical conclusion. Since:
A. Judging from the way Jay's safe functions, it is probable that the safes are based on the "If its closed, its locked" mechanism that almost every hotel safe in America works on.
B. It reacts the same as Jay's safe when an incorrect code is inputed, displaying the text "E-COdE"
C. (More speculative, less fact) Jessica, judging from Entry 32, was probably in the same situation as Jay, and woke up with a locked safe.

Which begs the VERY interesting question, what's in her safe? Plus, this almost garuntees a return to the hotel of horrors. (A bit off-topic, but as far as Jay not paying for the hotel, I find that a bit bogus. Every hotel I've ever stayed at I've paid for beforehand.)


Damn! You're right. I suspect that if anything was in Jessica's safe, it's not there anymore. If Masky could know the combination to Jay's safe (for the sake of argument I'm assuming it was Masky who knew, mainly because of the x'd 0), and if it's something that predictable, he could probably decipher the combination to Jessica's safe. I bet he absconded with whatever was in there after chasing Jay off.

But you're right; what IS in her safe? I suspect that if we find out, it'll be in a TTA video. Tapes were the big theory as for what was in Jay's safe, and that panned out. What could be equally as important, to put in a second safe?

We could default to the things that have been theorized before -- a mask or masks, notes from Jay or TTA (though probably not from Jay in Jess's safe; maybe notes from Jessica?) Brian's head (hur hur) -- but what else could be thought up?

Something relevant to Jessica? If they were working together for a long time pre-memory-loss, it could be relevant to both of them, i.e. a couple of masks if they went that way, but if they teamed up, it could be something specifically having to do with Jessica's experiences and troubles, just like the tapes probably have to do specifically with Jay's. I think that would be brilliantly interesting, to get some insight into Jessica's character through an item in the safe, even while she's absent. I guess it depends on if they plan on bringing her back -- which I suspect is the case -- and in what capacity.

ArkyMcArkArk wrote:
Something else that's really bothering me about this is the fact that no one is REALLY discussing what this means that Masky knew the code combination. (As for the people who are dedicated to the idea that Jessica wrote the code, you can ignore this. Though, do we have an example of Tim's handwriting? It might make this easier.)

What does this mean if Masky knew the code? To me, there's only a few options.
A. Masky put the tapes there.
B. Masky was superstalking and saw Jay input the numbers
C. Jay is JUST THAT predicatable.
D. Jay told him, sometime during the seven months.

Also, I'm glad we at least now know what that flashlight was for: Masky Whackin'.


I'm going to throw in my lot with B or D. I can't see Masky planting the tapes pre-memory-loss and then making Jay jump through hoops like he did to get them out again (though I'll be the first to admit that Masky's methods are friggin' inscrutable). I guess I can't see Masky planting tapes in Jay's safe without some assurance that he'd be able to work out the safe code in good time.

If it's D, it could be that Masky was working WITH Jay in some capacity pre-memory-loss, and pulled a face-heel-turn come Jay's 'awakening'. Maybe he helped or suggested putting the tapes there, knowing (somehow) that Jay was going to lose so much time, and fully intending to start fucking with him again once Jay was a blank slate once more. Unfortunately, I can't find much to base this theory off of, other than wild speculation. Whatever the case, though, if it's D, then at some point during the lost 7 months, Jay trusted Masky (or Tim, I suppose) enough to tell him such sensitive information, which would have very interesting implications.

If it's B, however, that would stand to reason. I mean, that would be INSANE levels of surveillance, but if Tim's full-time Maskying at Jay enough to follow him to a hotel in the arse end of god knows where, and if he has control over warp doors (as it seems to be assumed), it could be done.

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FallenTraveler wrote:
throwing this out there as I havent had time to read through all the pages, but 1102, read it backwards it's 2011, saw that people were wondering about it, just threw that out there.


Yes, I did note that last page I think, and suggested it- you know what? I'll just quote it so it isn't oddly second-hand. Someone else had noted it briefly in the anticipation thread, but it had sank so far down by the time I logged in, that I did not see the thread.

theonewhoquestions wrote:

Oh hey, the combination is the year backwards. That is a terrible combination. Maybe meant to invoke, here is everything that happened pre-2011.


Huh, two pages ago. This thread moves faster than I thought.

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 		I just gotta add, after another re-watch... I love that we're getting little muttered comments from Jay regularly now. He says either "oh great" or "oh christ" when it becomes apparent that Jessica's gone, and I'm reasonably sure he mutters "my safe!" when it dawns on him that the combo is NOT for Jessica's safe. Characterization yeaaah!

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 		0:49 "Oh great."

enjoying these whisperings that just started happening. unless they've been going over my head this whole time.

edit: too slow. damn.

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 		Maybe there is/was a diary or something along those lines in Jessicas safe. She doesn't seem to have a camera, so instead of her filming herself to keep her memories, she wrote everything down.

Think that would be interesting, and not too far-fetched.

By the way: Do you think Jay will finally recognize Tim under that mask, since he's seen him in broad daylight now? Because - he edits the videos before he uploads them to youtube, and even if he didn't, if I was repeatedly attacked by some masked person, and I caught that on tape, I'd totally try everything to find out who the fuck that person is. And since we get to see the things that Jay can see too, it's not unrealistic to assume, that he might be able to come to the same conclusion as ~90% of the unfiction members: Tim is Masky.

tl;dr why doesn't J recognize Tim?
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 		Always thought TTA was grade A antagonist until this entry, this act of 'scaring him off' paints a new picture.
I'm of the theory the combo was left intentionally by Masky so he left it there after Jessica was taken (by Slendy, or incapacitated by Masky, I don't know), hid outside or in bathroom until J figured it out, and then once he had the tapes he must've obiously hidden there (hence why he knew the combination) he scared him off, which is why he didnt fight properly or chase him all the way. He wanted him moving again. Theory?
I think Jessica was Slendy-tagged like Alex was, and as she began to suspect more and more, visual distortions started to focus on her, as if her thoughts and memories were causing them. Same way when Alex's gf played with that camera, Slendy was seemingly instantly summoned. Regardless if it was slendy or not who took her from the room, ~I think he was close, hence the distortion when J talked to her about discussing matters in her room, and TTA felt it was time to get J moving again, and away from Jessica, or to be more accurate...away from Slendy...as he always has, because I think he's been guiding him in the right direction from the sidelines (since direct intervention could bring Slendy to him instead) perhaps the pills were some way of staving off slendy-sickness and he's been using J as a puppet to investigate Slendy or perhaps do something about him.
Leds me to believe TTA isn't J's friend, but more like Slendy's enemy.

On the note of where the series is going, I like it. I like how J will be on the run whilst also rebuilding an image of the past, it's like blending the best elements out of the second half of season 1 with the creepiness of the first half. Epic.

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 		Regardless of what possibility is more likely, I prefer the theory that Jessica left the combination. That is not to say that I really believe that theory.

Masky limping?
he charged out of a room asap, hesitated, made a 90 degree turn while starting out again. In this case, it is not unbelievable to think that he might be unbalanced and/or physically awkward at that point.

Jay may very well have his theories on who masky is, or whether or not he's Tim. However, Jay doesn't talk to us much, these days. There are surely a few things he's neglected to mention to us.

Masky's Hands/fingers on door - The way he does this is him being sort of playful about it all, and also done in a sort of taunting manner.

I hope Jessica is a good guy(gal) and shows up again... She is kinda cute

Now we get to look forward to entries with those cool places we were shown photos of, back in November.

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ViolentViolet wrote:
Another important observation: J says nothing about memory loss. I'm going to cross out my previous theory then, since memory loss is a slender effect.. Not so much Masky.


pardon me - first post and love the thing and have been following the forums but haven't posted before and probably don't have it hardcore down like some of you - but doesn't J's first instance of memory loss occur after the first Masky bumrush in the entry where J returns to the house?

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Rather Dashing wrote:


Watch carefully, Masky and Jay exit the same room's door



i don't think so. i'm almost certain that Jay runs out the adjoining door, closes that, and runs out of jessica's. but masky runs out of jay's, then makes a bee-line to jessica's.

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Gwame wrote:
It's a little ironic that all this attention is being given to the word "Attention" on the safe

That just means it's doing it's job. Don't be so hard on the poor little safe. Wink

Edit: Thought I made an earlier post in this thread, but after reading 14 pages, it's nowhere to be found. I must have either posted it on another thread or just clicked "Preview". Anyway, here it is again:
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Let's take stock here:

Jessica is missing? Check.
Combination to (Jessica's :/) safe? Check.
Tapes (presumably of the missing months) in safe? Check.
Return of Masky? Check.

I'm not sure what the usual track record for these kinds of things around here is, but it looks like we're going good so far.


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 		Any one else notice that Masky directly attacked the camera?

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