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Jynx62009
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Mantisbot wrote:
1) several members of the MH crew go unaccounted for both during production of the film and while J is sleuthing it up. These people could have been/could currently be Masky. They would also have had access to the tapes either through helping load stuff into cars or by being involved in the folding process. Lots of tapes = a good chance a few wouldn't be missed.


There was some cameraman in the entry with Tim and Sarah on the gazebo that I don't think was accounted for. I've been wondering this whole time if he's been involved with TTA/Masky.

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Jynx62009 wrote:
Mantisbot wrote:
1) several members of the MH crew go unaccounted for both during production of the film and while J is sleuthing it up. These people could have been/could currently be Masky. They would also have had access to the tapes either through helping load stuff into cars or by being involved in the folding process. Lots of tapes = a good chance a few wouldn't be missed.


There was some cameraman in the entry with Tim and Sarah on the gazebo that I don't think was accounted for. I've been wondering this whole time if he's been involved with TTA/Masky.


I'm pretty sure that's Seth, and that it's Seth who is the cameraman in #22 as well (and probably at least a few other the other times when the cameraman is unseen and unheard, like #12 and #20).

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 		The cameraman is Seth; since Alex mentions his name in #22 when they're down in the basement, and that cameraman gets attacked, we assume that Seth bit the bullet as it were -- though there are those who believe that he could still be alive and helping/behind the TTA/Masky conglomerate.

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I'm pretty sure that's Seth, and that it's Seth who is the cameraman in #22 as well (and probably at least a few other the other times when the cameraman is unseen and unheard, like #12 and #20).
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Sniped! XD Sorry!

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 		Another thing dealing with Program...

If the symbol on the lower-left corner is Stigma it can mean 6th. A later use of that symbol according to it's wikipedia entry is as an ordinal 6. Now, look at the colored bars in the beginning. The 6th is red. Bleedmore at the end references blood, Which is also red. The video has a slight reddish tint to it.

Has anyone tried applying a red filter to the video to see what pops up? I'd also suggest turning the screen so that the stigma character is properly aligned.

Funny enough, the architecture of the house is reminiscent of Greek or Roman architecture... The peaked roof, hints of columns, etc.

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Dray wrote:
The cameraman is Seth; since Alex mentions his name in #22 when they're down in the basement, and that cameraman gets attacked, we assume that Seth bit the bullet as it were -- though there are those who believe that he could still be alive and helping/behind the TTA/Masky conglomerate.

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I'm pretty sure that's Seth, and that it's Seth who is the cameraman in #22 as well (and probably at least a few other the other times when the cameraman is unseen and unheard, like #12 and #20).


Sniped! XD Sorry![/quote]

Yeah, I just saw his picture on the SA forums and it was Seth Mad My bad :3

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 		What I meant when MH crew members had gone unaccounted for was more to say from our place as viewers of the tapes (that J has shown us) we don't know where everyone was at all times. There were a few entries were Brian's presence seemed expected but for some reason he wasn't there (17 and 20 to start). Also, Tim, Seth, and Brian were nowhere to be found in entry 13 (not saying they should've been, but we don't know what they were doing then, and likewise who was filming J at Alex's car). Because of this, they are all potential causers of trouble for Alex and J. I think pretty much every crew member was revealed at some point or another... except for two.

I'd like to know who the chick was in the back of the car during entry 7 and who was operating the camera when they saw The Operator hanging out in the middle of their shot in the other scene. I'll have to take a listen again and compare it to Sarah and Jessica.

And something else. If we've been consistently told that we shouldn't trust anyone, why do we trust J?

Sorry, some thread OT stuff in there:p Not really expecting responses here, though if you guys know where I should go to poke around, a link would be handy:D.

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Mantisbot wrote:
Let's assume there is an unidentified person related in some way to the MH crew who is Masky.

Bold added for emphasis. I really can't agree with this. It's been widely speculated (and is nearly consensually agreed) that Masky=Tim. Some might consider this metagaming, but the same actor who portrayed Tim also portrayed Masky in the Season 1 episodes. (I don't know about Entry #33, but so far people agree that it looks like Tim.) This is usually an indication in visual fiction that multiple instances of the same actor* are actually the same person in the context of the universe.
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Let's also assume that totheark is a username meant to be a form of personal address, as in "To: The Ark." let's further assume that the person in charge of this account is Masky.

Totally down with both of these points.

* Obvious exceptions to this are episodic Sci-Fi series, were a pool of guest star actors play a wide variety of characters over the course of a series, but it should be fairly obvious this is not the case with MH's actor-reuse..

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Dray wrote:
As much as they use the term, 'the ark' with apparent impunity, we don't see much about the bible otherwise. Or at least, I haven't seen many conclusions drawn that were pulled from it. Anyways, 25-1-13-1

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Advocate: This gives us the code for the previous video, after showing us the words "TICK TOCK" because apparently it's a binary clock. It's playing over footage that appears to be extra footage from Entry 7 (though not actually in Entry 7), and the YouTube description reads "00110111," which is "7" in ASCII.
Interesting that he chose to give us this one after the interview with Tim...


Going back to this, it could all be that it was some allusion that time ran out for Brian. Or that it is in the process of running out for Brian. Tim mentions that he was Brian's friend so, knowing that he's TTA (or at least assuming that he is), it could be some hint that he's looking for Brian, but that time is short. On the other hand, since we never see evidence that Tim and Brian were on friendly terms, and we know that TTA is pretty messed up, Tim could have been lying outright. Maybe he killed Brian -- his time ran out already?

Its highly possible that the ARK in this case refers to something that holds information, perhaps the most vital source. Maybe the first solid recording of slenderman.

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 		Mainly due to a bunch of TL,DR for me, did anyone solve Deluge?

I wanted to contribute to solving this, but if you put the video full screen, the light flickers yellow ever so often. I don't know if this contributes to the Morse Code, but I just wanted to get that out there.

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 		I know this is going to sound contrived as hell, buuuuut....

Concerning YAMA, has anyone broached the idea of this pertaining to Amy (Alex's girlfriend) at all? Again, contrived, but it seems like it could be significant in some way.

Also, I'm not a cryptologist or anything, but has anyone tried tossing around anything besides YAMA? It seems like it could be another key to something else. 25-1-13-1. As there any characters we've seen so far with a 4 letter name, two of them being the same vowel? The only thing I can think of would be "Sara".

I'm just trying to throw ideas out there.

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Zarggg wrote:

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Let's also assume that totheark is a username meant to be a form of personal address, as in "To: The Ark." let's further assume that the person in charge of this account is Masky.

Totally down with both of these points.


That's an interesting way to think of the username, but it doesn't make sense in the context of "You will lead me to the ark" in Entry #####.

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 		still don't think Masky is TTA

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bobthecrusher wrote:
still don't think Masky is TTA


Care to support your assertion? You can state it over and over again, but backing yourself up a little will help us maybe see your perspective.

On the other hand, Masky=TTA has seen lots of evidence on this particular thread, as well as all over the forum. Not the least of which-

Masky is prominently featured in the Warning video and Entry ######, both TTA videos.

Tim, who is presumably (though admittedly not necessarily) Masky, has his face featured at the end of the Messages video, which is largely about revealing secrets.

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Kilo
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TheBioGuy wrote:
bobthecrusher wrote:
still don't think Masky is TTA


Care to support your assertion? You can state it over and over again, but backing yourself up a little will help us maybe see your perspective.

On the other hand, Masky=TTA has seen lots of evidence on this particular thread, as well as all over the forum. Not the least of which-

Masky is prominently featured in the Warning video and Entry ######, both TTA videos.

Tim, who is presumably (though admittedly not necessarily) Masky, has his face featured at the end of the Messages video, which is largely about revealing secrets.


What evidence do we have that ###### is a TTA video? I mean, granted, there are a lot of things pointing towards that, but ##### seemed very much to not be in the style of TTA. Far too direct and to the point. I mean, at first glance, it seems to be right in line with TTA, but when put side by side with all the rest of his videos, it doesn't gel.

And how does Tim's face being featured at the end of Messages have anything to do with Masky being TTA? Masky seems adamant about keeping the mask on, as evidenced in 18, so it makes little sense for him to reveal his secret identity to Jay in a video.

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Kilo wrote:

What evidence do we have that ###### is a TTA video? I mean, granted, there are a lot of things pointing towards that, but ##### seemed very much to not be in the style of TTA. Far too direct and to the point. I mean, at first glance, it seems to be right in line with TTA, but when put side by side with all the rest of his videos, it doesn't gel.

And how does Tim's face being featured at the end of Messages have anything to do with Masky being TTA? Masky seems adamant about keeping the mask on, as evidenced in 18, so it makes little sense for him to reveal his secret identity to Jay in a video.


Well, for one, ##### ends with "You will lead me to the ark". Admittedly the fact that he speaks to the audience makes it different from other TTA videos, but it's still pretty cryptic, and aside from that I think it's very similar to other TTA videos, especially Warning- same grainy black and white look, the stop motion head wobbling, blurry close-ups of Masky? And it has other things in common with TTA like the backwards music.

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