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distilled
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[Crazy Theory - hold onto your hats! Btw, I don't actually believe this is the case]

Its been mentioned in the past that closing a door and then opening it might not necasserily lead to the same room - especially when Masky is involved. Now - hold on, this might get rocky - what if that wasn't Jessica's room... what if that was Masky's room? Somewhere else in the hotel? Jay only said he hadn't seen anyone else around, but that doesn't mean the other rooms weren't occupied.

What if Jay, upon opening the door, wander's into Masky's room - finds the note which Masky had written Jay's safe key on (for himself to remember, not for Jay to see). It would explain why the room was so messed up, it's certainly how we've seen Masky living in the past!
Then, Masky discovers Jay has gone into his room and (having been lurking outside Jay's door) jumps in to attack and retrieve the information Jay should never have found.

This, of course, assumes that Masky cannot fully control the door warps. It also means that Jessica might not be gone afterall - just sitting in her room waiting for Jay to come and get her...

[/crazy theory]
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zcohen17
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distilled wrote:
[Crazy Theory - hold onto your hats! Btw, I don't actually believe this is the case]

Its been mentioned in the past that closing a door and then opening it might not necasserily lead to the same room - especially when Masky is involved. Now - hold on, this might get rocky - what if that wasn't Jessica's room... what if that was Masky's room? Somewhere else in the hotel? Jay only said he hadn't seen anyone else around, but that doesn't mean the other rooms weren't occupied.

What if Jay, upon opening the door, wander's into Masky's room - finds the note which Masky had written Jay's safe key on (for himself to remember, not for Jay to see). It would explain why the room was so messed up, it's certainly how we've seen Masky living in the past!
Then, Masky discovers Jay has gone into his room and (having been lurking outside Jay's door) jumps in to attack and retrieve the information Jay should never have found.

This, of course, assumes that Masky cannot fully control the door warps. It also means that Jessica might not be gone afterall - just sitting in her room waiting for Jay to come and get her...

[/crazy theory]


It could be, but the paper that was on the desk in 32, the on the floor in 33 would be a hell of a coincidence (not saying i would but it past them). There are also acouple other items that were set such a way in both that it would be unlikely to find the exact same setup in two rooms.

I will say though I could see them doing this and it would be pretty damn epic.

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....we should stop just assuming that TTA and Masky are one and the same, we have no evidence to support that.

And i agree with pretty much everyone, it would be cool, but it doesn't seem likely (in regards to the Teleportation theory)

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distilled wrote:
[Crazy Theory - hold onto your hats! Btw, I don't actually believe this is the case]

Its been mentioned in the past that closing a door and then opening it might not necasserily lead to the same room - especially when Masky is involved. Now - hold on, this might get rocky - what if that wasn't Jessica's room... what if that was Masky's room? Somewhere else in the hotel? Jay only said he hadn't seen anyone else around, but that doesn't mean the other rooms weren't occupied.

What if Jay, upon opening the door, wander's into Masky's room - finds the note which Masky had written Jay's safe key on (for himself to remember, not for Jay to see). It would explain why the room was so messed up, it's certainly how we've seen Masky living in the past!
Then, Masky discovers Jay has gone into his room and (having been lurking outside Jay's door) jumps in to attack and retrieve the information Jay should never have found.

This, of course, assumes that Masky cannot fully control the door warps. It also means that Jessica might not be gone afterall - just sitting in her room waiting for Jay to come and get her...

[/crazy theory]


Check page 17 and on, there's proof supporting something like this. =)

Anyway, the way I can explain it? J grabs his bag and camera to go to Jess's room. Opens door and walks through and gets teleported to Masky's room. Finds safe code (also, could've just been a notepad on the nightstand in entry 32...), goes back to what he thinks is his room, but is just the adjoining room to Masky's which happens to have the tapes in it (Masky set it up this way.) Masky and him fight, J runs and leaves out the door that he believes to be Jess', Masky leaves out of the other door.

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iTellTale wrote:
distilled wrote:
[Crazy Theory - hold onto your hats! Btw, I don't actually believe this is the case]

Its been mentioned in the past that closing a door and then opening it might not necasserily lead to the same room - especially when Masky is involved. Now - hold on, this might get rocky - what if that wasn't Jessica's room... what if that was Masky's room? Somewhere else in the hotel? Jay only said he hadn't seen anyone else around, but that doesn't mean the other rooms weren't occupied.

What if Jay, upon opening the door, wander's into Masky's room - finds the note which Masky had written Jay's safe key on (for himself to remember, not for Jay to see). It would explain why the room was so messed up, it's certainly how we've seen Masky living in the past!
Then, Masky discovers Jay has gone into his room and (having been lurking outside Jay's door) jumps in to attack and retrieve the information Jay should never have found.

This, of course, assumes that Masky cannot fully control the door warps. It also means that Jessica might not be gone afterall - just sitting in her room waiting for Jay to come and get her...

[/crazy theory]


Check page 17 and on, there's proof supporting something like this. =)

Anyway, the way I can explain it? J grabs his bag and camera to go to Jess's room. Opens door and walks through and gets teleported to Masky's room. Finds safe code (also, could've just been a notepad on the nightstand in entry 32...), goes back to what he thinks is his room, but is just the adjoining room to Masky's which happens to have the tapes in it (Masky set it up this way.) Masky and him fight, J runs and leaves out the door that he believes to be Jess', Masky leaves out of the other door.


I also considered this possibility, but since Jay's bag(I'm pretty sure he left it on the ground) and the maglite are in the room with the tapes, it must be Jay's room.

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bobthecrusher wrote:
....we should stop just assuming that TTA and Masky are one and the same, we have no evidence to support that.

And i agree with pretty much everyone, it would be cool, but it doesn't seem likely (in regards to the Teleportation theory)


Bob, thanks for pointing this out. As I trudged through the 23 pages of this entry, I was going to post the same thing since some people are pronouncing it as an established fact.

We have a good case for Tim=Masky, but no evidence of Masky = TTA. Granted, TTA and Masky are linked somehow, but that relationship is undefined.

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What? how is it not obvious that masky is totheark? its his channel, and he's the one that is always in the videos. since when did we decide that they are not the same person?

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The Illest Villen
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Cutboy wrote:
What? how is it not obvious that masky is totheark? its his channel, and he's the one that is always in the videos. since when did we decide that they are not the same person?

I'm pretty sure that the creators of MH called Masky totheark during an OOG Q&A thing.

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I think this subject came up a couple of weeks ago and sparked a huge flame war that got us nowhere. In the end we agreed something along the lines of the following:

No we are not 100% Tim=Masky=TTA, but the arguments for an against have been beaten beyond measure and there is no need to argue it further until conclusive evidence comes up either way. Until then, we get nowhere, most posts on the subject are trouts and just take up space.

So, for the sake of argument, if someone comes up with a conclusion which is based upon the Tim=Masky=TTA idea or even the Tim=/=Masky=/=TTA or whatever, just let it slide - please?


Sorry to be a bit of a hardass about it Very Happy
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jjocke wrote:
bobthecrusher wrote:
....we should stop just assuming that TTA and Masky are one and the same, we have no evidence to support that.

And i agree with pretty much everyone, it would be cool, but it doesn't seem likely (in regards to the Teleportation theory)


Bob, thanks for pointing this out. As I trudged through the 23 pages of this entry, I was going to post the same thing since some people are pronouncing it as an established fact.

We have a good case for Tim=Masky, but no evidence of Masky = TTA. Granted, TTA and Masky are linked somehow, but that relationship is undefined.


There is little evidence to the contrary, assuming he's a different person, why has he not been named by jay yet?

Basically I'm just trying to link a face we have no name for to a name we have face for.

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jjocke wrote:
bobthecrusher wrote:
....we should stop just assuming that TTA and Masky are one and the same, we have no evidence to support that.

And i agree with pretty much everyone, it would be cool, but it doesn't seem likely (in regards to the Teleportation theory)


Bob, thanks for pointing this out. As I trudged through the 23 pages of this entry, I was going to post the same thing since some people are pronouncing it as an established fact.

We have a good case for Tim=Masky, but no evidence of Masky = TTA. Granted, TTA and Masky are linked somehow, but that relationship is undefined.


Entry 19: "Totheark, who I suspect is the person wearing the mask, knows where I live."

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thorn2200 wrote:


I also considered this possibility, but since Jay's bag(I'm pretty sure he left it on the ground) and the maglite are in the room with the tapes, it must be Jay's room.


So far, we've only seen teleportation in cases where the door behind Jay closes, thus cutting off whatever link may have been forged to the room he just exited. Is it possible that since he left his door open when he found the safe code/opened the safe, the link between his and Masky's (?) room was still present?

Eh, we may never know, but it seems a valid theory to me.

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I don't like posting theories with little evidence supporting them, but this one made me laugh a bit too, so here it goes-

Assumed with evidence- Jay forgot the events of 7 months before season 2 began. Masky is seen in this video, apparently with knowledge of where Jay is staying. Jess is shown to be staying in the same hotel as Jay, in an adjoining room, also with memory loss.
Assumed with no evidence- Masky met up with, talked with, and started working with Jay over the 7monthblackout.
Assumed with little evidence- Jessica also joined up with them during this period.

Extrapolated story- Jay, Jess, and Masky went out on a hunt or whatever and got two adjoining rooms at a hotel (one for Jay and Masky, one for Jess). They all go out on a filming mission, and Masky gets injured. He takes himself in to the hospital, and receives care for some time. While he's out, the Operator comes and wipes Jay's and Jess' memory, deleting the last 7 months. Then the events of 27-32 happen. After 32 is over, Jess goes to the vending machine to get something for the road. Jay figures that since they're ready to go, he can close Jess' door.

Then he hears someone enter Jess' room. This is Masky returning from the hospital (possibly with a pronounced limp, but not necessarily, we're getting there). Jay goes in to check it out, but Masky, always a prankster, decides to prank Jay and hides. Jay finds the safe code he was always supposed to have, but Jess had it in her pocket for one reason or another and had forgotten about it. He thinks it's some big thing, and while he's looking in the safe and getting the tapes, Masky makes his move.

Jay, not remembering teaming up with Masky over the 7monthblackout, thinks its a legit attack and prepares himself with a maglight. Masky put up a hand in defense, as if to say "hey man, cool down, what's up?" Jay hits him hard, he drops, and Jay bolts for the door. Masky composes himself, stumbling (either because of the maglight walloping or his time in the hospital) out to the hall, where He sees Jay heading out, but can't catch up to ask him what exactly is going on.

It's silly altogether, but in theory, it's totally possible.

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TBG, that made me giggle. I totally hope you're right, that'd be an awesome way to jerk us around.

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Honestly, I kinda hope I'm not right, but as I was trying to interpret the events of this video, it was one idea that came up. And it was too funny not to share.

I'm glad you got to giggle, JKat.

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