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TTA: Missed Connections
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Bingo Zero
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Joined: 12 Dec 2010
Posts: 54

Kilo wrote:

I think it's very likely to be TTA behind ######. In it he says he's through playing games, so all of his previous videos were just toying with Jay, and shortly after the entry Jay's apartment burns down, and recently Masky attacks Jay again. TTA is pretty plainly telling Jay that nothing is safe anymore; TTA has access to his accounts, he destroys his home, and the first real chance Jay has to connect and team up with a person TTA destroys it. Jay isn't safe, the game is over, now it's for real.

Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2011 4:55 am

awakeasaurusrex
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Joined: 12 Oct 2010
Posts: 1099

Megarain wrote:

Its highly possible that the ARK in this case refers to something that holds information, perhaps the most vital source. Maybe the first solid recording of slenderman.

Yeah - personally, I think that the ARK is a stash where Alex hid a vitally important tape during his investigation and then forgot about it.

Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2011 7:52 am

TheBioGuy
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Joined: 27 Nov 2010
Posts: 332
Location: Nebraska!

Kilo wrote:

What evidence do we have that ###### is a TTA video? I mean, granted, there are a lot of things pointing towards that, but ##### seemed very much to not be in the style of TTA. Far too direct and to the point. I mean, at first glance, it seems to be right in line with TTA, but when put side by side with all the rest of his videos, it doesn't gel.

And how does Tim's face being featured at the end of Messages have anything to do with Masky being TTA? Masky seems adamant about keeping the mask on, as evidenced in 18, so it makes little sense for him to reveal his secret identity to Jay in a video.

Well, the evidence is that Jay thinks that it is, admittedly, he is not the end-all of theories, but it does back it up. As a few others said, "You will lead me to the ark" is pretty good evidence, as well as the grainy quality of video.

And as far as the second, I was going to mention that it was weaker evidence, since it rests on another unproved theory and a leaping assumption by me, but I guess I failed to write that. I heartily apologize.

You bring up good points, but I still believe that there is enough evidence here to imply that Tim=Masky=Totheark. Of course, this is purely my opinion based on evidence, and you may feel free to disagree.

Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2011 3:54 pm

jjocke
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Joined: 30 Oct 2007
Posts: 164

TTA is now a non-entity

I'll try to keep it brief - Tim=Masky=TTA has no definitive proof either way, so I think it is unwise to refer to Tim as TTA or to refer to Masky as TTA.

Here is something that I thinks adds enough element of doubt to keep the speculation open:

TTA Video Channel - Uploaded videos from Video #9 to Video #23 - No activity since 2/3/10

Entry "Regards" - uploaded on 7/22/09 is the 1st video (in response to entry #9)
Entry "Messages" - uploaded on 11/21/09 is video which shows what is believed to be Tim (Response to entry #18 in which Masky appears for the first time)
Entry "Warning" - uploaded on 2/3/10 is video showing Masky (not a response to a specific entry but is uploaded shortly after #23 and is the last entry uploaded on the account and has written words not solely typed text)

Marble Hornets Video Channel

Entry #15 - Tim is interviewed (Jay's footage)
Entry #16 - Jay gets a tip from "a friend" on where to find Brian. (Jay's footage)
Entry #18 - Masky first appears (Jay's footage)
Entry ##### - 3/5/10 is first hacked entry upload from J's account (Masky is in it, has written words, not solely typed text - uploaded by who?)
Entry "No Entry" - Uploaded by Jay who found it on the hard drive so no proof on who's footage or who put it there

Marble Hornets Twitter

1/12/10 - I don't like the fact that it says "us" in the video.

Twit Pics from Oct 27, Oct 31 and Nov 16 were hacked entries and include pictures of Masky and more written words

One possible scenario - Masky is revealed as Tim to Jay through TTA's reponse "Messages" Well, Masky is a bit upset about this and tracks down TTA, hacks TTA's accounts and posts "Warning" (the last entry from the TTA account and the first one where we see wriiten words.) TTA is now gone and out of the picture.

Masky hacks Jay's account and posts Entry ####, which is in the same style as "Warning" also with written words.

Masky also hacks the Twitter account to kick off Season II

Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2011 4:20 pm

Philosopher Xu
Boot

Joined: 18 Jan 2011
Posts: 57
Location: Ontario

Yeah I'm on the Masky=Tim but is not TTA side of things as well. Mostly because I don't see how Masky can get his act together enough to film, edit and upload the TTA videos. The only other person we know for sure that has video skillz is Alex. Again, just my opinion.

Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2011 4:40 pm

Jynx62009
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Joined: 14 Jan 2011
Posts: 214
Location: Pensacola, Florida

Salty wrote:

Well, for one, ##### ends with "You will lead me to the ark". Admittedly the fact that he speaks to the audience makes it different from other TTA videos, but it's still pretty cryptic, and aside from that I think it's very similar to other TTA videos, especially Warning- same grainy black and white look, the stop motion head wobbling, blurry close-ups of Masky? And it has other things in common with TTA like the backwards music.

Was it possible to mess with ######'s audio and see who's voice it was? Sorry if this was done and I missed it - but if it was, did it sound like anyone in particular?

Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2011 4:55 pm

Salty
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Location: Texas

Jynx62009 wrote:

Salty wrote:

Was it possible to mess with ######'s audio and see who's voice it was? Sorry if this was done and I missed it - but if it was, did it sound like anyone in particular?

I've always thought it sounded like Tim, but that's just my opinion and maybe I'm biased in that direction. You could dig up the thread for that video and see if anyone messed with the audio back then....

Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2011 5:01 pm

Zarggg
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Joined: 23 Dec 2010
Posts: 1660

Salty wrote:

Kilo wrote:

What evidence do we have that ###### is a TTA video?

How about the fact that Jay has said that he didn't (remember) upload it?

Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2011 5:20 pm

Raj39
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Joined: 17 Jan 2011
Posts: 56

Zarggg wrote:

Salty wrote:

Kilo wrote:

What evidence do we have that ###### is a TTA video?

How about the fact that Jay has said that he didn't (remember) upload it?

If Jay uploaded it, then who was he talking to? Confused

Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2011 6:23 pm

Jynx62009
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Location: Pensacola, Florida

Raj39 wrote:

If Jay uploaded it, then who was he talking to? Confused

>_> Masky manipulated him somehow into making it and uploading it and J doesn't remember all that. He was trying to get through to him since "it's not a game anymore" and uploading it onto J's channel was a good way to do so.

I don't know really, I think he just hacked his stuff. A lot easier way to get the same result - freak J out.

Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2011 7:55 pm

bobthecrusher
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Joined: 18 Dec 2010
Posts: 444
Location: Sitting on your window

Warning

I feel a little out of date here, as I don't know all of the theories (still relatively new) and so my question is this: did it seem like Masky was moving in Warning like he was mimicking the movements of the puppet? (doll thing, whatever it was) is it possible that TTA got a masky mask (very VERY possible, everyone has one who wants one) and was trying to send a message like 'masky is a puppet of The Operator'?

Anyway, warning was the last video. I'm to the persuasion that Alex is either dead or has no access to the computer, or else the video from his camera wouldn't have been sent in the mail, I don't think the video of Alex being attacked by Operator was sent by TTA in any case,it's not his style, though I suppose Warning could have been a precursor to the Video, like I warned you, and if you don't stop this will be you.

I almost forgot. Smile for Death. Smile for the Camera. Camera=Death, whether for J or Alex or The Operator is unclear.

Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2011 8:53 pm

iTellTale
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Joined: 19 Jan 2011
Posts: 25

Re: Warning

bobthecrusher wrote:

That first part can't exactly be disproved, it could be a possibility, though I still think TTA=Masky=Tim. ETA: Actually, just rewatched Warning, and though Masky is always really blurry when he's on screen, it looks like he has the trademark sideburns, so...Hm.

I think Alex probably got rid of the camera as quickly as he could, so TTA/Masky/someone could have gotten hold of the tape, so Alex could still be alive and the video could still be seen as a warning to J.

Camera = Death probably means for Alex (and J?), following that the camera seemed to have summoned Slendy. XD

Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2011 9:55 pm

ArkyMcArkArk
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Joined: 22 Dec 2010
Posts: 157

Re: Warning

bobthecrusher wrote:

Anyway, warning was the last video. I'm to the persuasion that Alex is either dead or has no access to the computer, or else the video from his camera wouldn't have been sent in the mail, I don't think the video of Alex being attacked by Operator was sent by TTA in any case,it's not his style, though I suppose Warning could have been a precursor to the Video, like I warned you, and if you don't stop this will be you.

Well you are very much set on this Alex is totheark thing, huh? Do you mind if I ask why?

Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2011 12:50 am

Dray
Pretty talky there aintcha, Talky?

Joined: 15 Jan 2010
Posts: 2578
Location: Cowtown, AB

Kilo wrote:

###### doesn't gel with the other videos because it was never meant to gel; it has some more subtle qualities like the backwards music and the creepy, black and white imagery, but the person speaking specifically mentions that what he's planning and doing aren't just to taunt and tease anymore. Why should the video conveying that message remain just the same?

JKat had a neat theory that the Operator can't understand certain subtleties; the Mask to the Operator is a face, not a mask, so having Jay take that off in the house would reveal something secret that the masked figure wanted to hide from the Operator. Speaking more vaguely, however, as in a half an image overlayed across a video uploaded somewhere, gets the point across that Tim is involved without saying anything outright. Whether or not the masked figure is on Jay's side, or for some other reason entirely, speaking figuratively and in riddles has been the only way to guide him.

Salty wrote:

Why would this video speak to the audience (us) rather than the audience (Jay) when the rest of his videos have been focused on Jay? Also -- I don't think that it was you who posted it, but some people were debating whether the tone of voice of the video said, "You will lead me to the ark," or, "You will lead me, totheark." I don't believe that there was ever a consensus over that. It may just be one of the things that we have to wait to find out.

jjocke wrote:

Marble Hornets Video Channel

Entry #15 - Tim is interviewed (Jay's footage)
Entry #16 - Jay gets a tip from "a friend" on where to find Brian. (Jay's footage)
Entry #18 - Masky first appears (Jay's footage)
Entry ##### - 3/5/10 is first hacked entry upload from J's account (Masky is in it, has written words, not solely typed text - uploaded by who?)
Entry "No Entry" - Uploaded by Jay who found it on the hard drive so no proof on who's footage or who put it there

Don't forget #25, where 'somebody' told him to flip to the channel with his burning house! It could be family, but it could also be the same person who gave him the 'anonymous' tip to explore Brian's house.

I had a thought, and I don't remember seeing it mentioned before! Totheark seems to know that the nameless monster that's been tracking down Alex is called, 'the Operator'. But Alex knew this name as well: it's on one of his pages in his wall full of crazy. They also both share the (X) scrawling. This could mean a number of things:

-Totheark could have been in Alex's room since he vanished, found the name and the shorthand and adopted it.

-Totheark could have been working with Alex at some point (perhaps not as totheark at that time, but as Tim/whoever totheark is) so that now that Alex is gone, totheark is still using the name and shorthand; this could be supported by the fact that totheark seems to possess sound and video from Alex's pile of tapes; and if you want to believe that Tim is totheark, Tim admitted that he was familiar with the piles and piles that Alex had in his car.

-Totheark fed Alex the name and shorthand at some point in a similar way to how he sent videos to Jay, which could be supported by potentially early activity as seen in 'Exit' and the skull-faced mask that flicks into view in #26 during what appear to be some of Alex's investigations

-Totheark is Alex, who has been using the same name and shorthand all along. This could also be helped by the footage that totheark had that matched with what Jay uploaded, and potentially explain how a frightened message from Alex at the end of #26 managed to reach him despite Jay's constant moving from place to place.

I'm not saying that totheark is necessarily consciously the same person; it could also be that they have no idea what's happening (aka: sleep walking, like Jessica admitted to!) while they're doing what they're doing.

In any case, even if this has been mentioned before, I think that it's a pretty neat thing to examine. There are some neat possibilities there!

Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2011 11:08 am

Schmedly27
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Joined: 21 Jan 2011
Posts: 35

On the whole Tim=Masky=TTA the evidence for Tim being masky is always the jacket

but in entry 18 I think, the first time Jay ever sees Masky he is wearing a black hoodie (perhaps the one form the twitter picture)

And also in entry ######## TTA refers to 'We'

So perhaps two Maskys?

Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2011 1:40 pm

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