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ravenofroses
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Kay guys, gonna bring this back up again... House of Leaves quote from "Jeff"

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Why did god create a dual universe?


Watch this and tell me that isn't what it looks like... footage from both universes spliced together. Something changed in the timeline for this new one, or, in my opinion... and I know no one likes to talk about them anymore, the time line from "Slender man" and "Welcome to the ARK"... the latter of which features a parallel universe where they mention being with Corenthal, the sun hasn't been out in days, and such in such.

Sorry, went on a tangent. But seriously, I think the dual universe idea is getting more and more credence in each video.


hee. i would love for that to be the case. parallel/intersecting timelines = love. but i honestly don't know where they would go with that. not in the sense that i don't see how they could make that work, but in the sense that i really have no idea how far they would go or how the multiple timelines thing would turn out. but here's hoping, eh?
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BanishedZaber wrote:
Kay guys, gonna bring this back up again... House of Leaves quote from "Jeff"

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Why did god create a dual universe?


Watch this and tell me that isn't what it looks like... footage from both universes spliced together. Something changed in the timeline for this new one, or, in my opinion... and I know no one likes to talk about them anymore, the time line from "Slender man" and "Welcome to the ARK"... the latter of which features a parallel universe where they mention being with Corenthal, the sun hasn't been out in days, and such in such.

Sorry, went on a tangent. But seriously, I think the dual universe idea is getting more and more credence in each video.


The dual universe definitely has merits, especially considering the footage from Jeff. But Slender man and WttA were entries to a horror contest, and we have no proof at all that they're part of the story.
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Even had long hair
edit:Might have been a wig.Evan needs to feel like a pretty girl :O

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Luipaard wrote:
BanishedZaber wrote:
Kay guys, gonna bring this back up again... House of Leaves quote from "Jeff"

Quote:
Why did god create a dual universe?


Watch this and tell me that isn't what it looks like... footage from both universes spliced together. Something changed in the timeline for this new one, or, in my opinion... and I know no one likes to talk about them anymore, the time line from "Slender man" and "Welcome to the ARK"... the latter of which features a parallel universe where they mention being with Corenthal, the sun hasn't been out in days, and such in such.

Sorry, went on a tangent. But seriously, I think the dual universe idea is getting more and more credence in each video.


The dual universe definitely has merits, especially considering the footage from Jeff. But Slender man and WttA were entries to a horror contest, and we have no proof at all that they're part of the story.


Yeah, I guess... just REALLY wish we could get some "Word of God" on this, because it's been driving me crazy. I still want to know how they did the Rake effects in WTTA... *stops tangent now*

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BanishedZaber wrote:
Yeah, I guess... just REALLY wish we could get some "Word of God" on this, because it's been driving me crazy. I still want to know how they did the Rake effects in WTTA... *stops tangent now*


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well, if it's really driving you THAT crazy, there are ways to ask about that. it might not be so polite to do so, but...eh. especially if it's from a film-making/effects point of view and you're as polite as you can be about it, you might be able to get away with it.


at any rate, we should probably consider those videos non-canon just for the sake of simplicity. or perhaps we can treat it more like a "test run" for certain ideas that would appear later in the series. the idea of dual universes has been brought up, and time has been fucked with enough in this series that we don't really need to look at those two vids, fascinating as they are.
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ravenofroses wrote:
BanishedZaber wrote:
Yeah, I guess... just REALLY wish we could get some "Word of God" on this, because it's been driving me crazy. I still want to know how they did the Rake effects in WTTA... *stops tangent now*


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well, if it's really driving you THAT crazy, there are ways to ask about that. it might not be so polite to do so, but...eh. especially if it's from a film-making/effects point of view and you're as polite as you can be about it, you might be able to get away with it.


at any rate, we should probably consider those videos non-canon just for the sake of simplicity. or perhaps we can treat it more like a "test run" for certain ideas that would appear later in the series. the idea of dual universes has been brought up, and time has been fucked with enough in this series that we don't really need to look at those two vids, fascinating as they are.


Nah, it's alright... I'll just hang loose until it's all over, they'll probably talk about some of that stuff then.

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OK, I have theories.
Here it is, poorly explained because I'm not a great writer and I want to get this down before I lose it: As the House of Leaves quote hinted at, there are multiple universes. At some point during A Day in the Life, Evan, Alex, and Jeff were duplicated and one set entered an alternate universe. Their alt selves were sent to the ocean at night (78of76.avi). More stuff happened to these alternate guys and at some point in late November/early December they went to that field (77of76.avi). The file was initially corrupted for the guys because it had not yet happened. The two universes are synchronized. The ocean had happened, so it was immediately visible when they found the flash drive. Continuing on this, maybe the hidden videos also contain footage from alternate universes (not the same one because Vinnie is sometimes there). But they will remain unwatchable to the guys until everything in the video has happened in whichever universe it's going to happen in. Same with CongratsMagus, or whatever that was called: it had already happened in one of the alt universes, so they could see it.
My other theory is that only Jeff, Evan, and Alex are in 78 and 77 because those are the only three from the hiking trip that survive until some undetermined point. Ryan is already dead and I believe Jessa is too. So Vince would be the next to die.
Maybe both are right (haha, like I'd be that fortunate) or maybe I'm horribly wrong in both cases. I just wanted to put this down because explaining it in chat was too hard.

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Lewa wrote:
OK, I have theories.
Here it is, poorly explained because I'm not a great writer and I want to get this down before I lose it: As the House of Leaves quote hinted at, there are multiple universes. At some point during A Day in the Life, Evan, Alex, and Jeff were duplicated and one set entered an alternate universe. Their alt selves were sent to the ocean at night (78of76.avi). More stuff happened to these alternate guys and at some point in late November/early December they went to that field (77of76.avi). The file was initially corrupted for the guys because it had not yet happened. The two universes are synchronized. The ocean had happened, so it was immediately visible when they found the flash drive. Continuing on this, maybe the hidden videos also contain footage from alternate universes (not the same one because Vinnie is sometimes there). But they will remain unwatchable to the guys until everything in the video has happened in whichever universe it's going to happen in. Same with CongratsMagus, or whatever that was called: it had already happened in one of the alt universes, so they could see it.
My other theory is that only Jeff, Evan, and Alex are in 78 and 77 because those are the only three from the hiking trip that survive until some undetermined point. Ryan is already dead and I believe Jessa is too. So Vince would be the next to die.
Maybe both are right (haha, like I'd be that fortunate) or maybe I'm horribly wrong in both cases. I just wanted to put this down because explaining it in chat was too hard.


I...really like this explanation. Its very neat. But if Vinnie isn't in 78, does that mean that he died after that clip from ADitL? We keep seeing that clip of him running ahead of the group, and then in these videos he's not there...
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I don't think this means for sure that something happened to Vinnie, guys. I mean, there have been other videos where he hasn't been present. They even referred to him being gone in an early episode, and then he came back for the next one. While I do agree that the video is ominous, some people on the video comments have suggested that this is just a bit of a side video to whet our appetites, and also a bit of a jab at people who say EverymanHYBRID makes no sense/is pointless.

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Got something like dialogue:

E: Yeah, okay.

J: Now what?

E: *laughs* I don't man, but this unbelievably infuriating. I'm tired of it, this is ridiculous. Its like you're just going around in circles, you don't get anywhere, no progress is made! You go in balls to the walls and it doesn't fucking matter, you just wind up in the same fucking spot.

J: Been saying that from the start...

E: Damn fucking thing.

I do agree that its a jab at the complainers though.
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There's a couple of things I'm fairly certain about regarding 77of76:

- It was shot in late fall / early winter. I don't think you could find a square inch of New Jersey that hasn't been covered in snow for the past month, but the leaves were off the (deciduous) trees and the boys were dressed warmly.

- The sirens that were heard on the video may have been from two different vehicles. The drawn-out one was very likely a fire truck, while the shorter one could have been an ambulance.

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ravenofroses wrote:
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So...more time shenanigans, I see. Since it's the same place, it had to have happened recently (no leaves on the tree, dressed for cold weather), but it's been on the usb since they found it (some time in the summer, unless I'm mistaken). SHENANIGANS :O

Other than that, I'm not sure what to make of it.


perhaps the file was corrupted cos the incident depicted hadn't happened yet? might be a stretch, but that would amuse me.



Lewa wrote:
OK, I have theories.
Here it is, poorly explained because I'm not a great writer and I want to get this down before I lose it: As the House of Leaves quote hinted at, there are multiple universes. At some point during A Day in the Life, Evan, Alex, and Jeff were duplicated and one set entered an alternate universe. Their alt selves were sent to the ocean at night (78of76.avi). More stuff happened to these alternate guys and at some point in late November/early December they went to that field (77of76.avi). The file was initially corrupted for the guys because it had not yet happened. The two universes are synchronized. The ocean had happened, so it was immediately visible when they found the flash drive. Continuing on this, maybe the hidden videos also contain footage from alternate universes (not the same one because Vinnie is sometimes there). But they will remain unwatchable to the guys until everything in the video has happened in whichever universe it's going to happen in. Same with CongratsMagus, or whatever that was called: it had already happened in one of the alt universes, so they could see it.
My other theory is that only Jeff, Evan, and Alex are in 78 and 77 because those are the only three from the hiking trip that survive until some undetermined point. Ryan is already dead and I believe Jessa is too. So Vince would be the next to die.
Maybe both are right (haha, like I'd be that fortunate) or maybe I'm horribly wrong in both cases. I just wanted to put this down because explaining it in chat was too hard.


I approve of these theories. That might explain the hidden videos, if the things in them haven't happened somewhere/somewhen else.

Shit is so about to get real, guys. They're gonna try watching the hidden videos, and something happened in Alex's room... gonna be a lot of videos coming up soon, I think.
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Okay so my thoughts on this video.

First off, about the file being corrupted until now, I think it's the same thing that causes them to be unable to see the hidden videos. Like they can't see them until they're supposed to. I think there's a possibilty that they'll be able to see the hidden videos when they watch that disc now. But I suppose just cos they can see this one, doesn't mean they should be able to see all of them.

As for how this video fits into the timeline, it's possible it's in the future but probably not that far in the future due to it being winter still. I absolutely believe it's possible that it's a parallel universe too. Especially if you take into account the House of Leaves quote. In which case it could have been in the past but in a second universe. It just seemed like they went to that tree for a specific reason and were expecting to see something that wasn't there. Some clue led them there. A clue that the boys in that clip have but we don't. All of the clips that we previously thought might happen in the future have yet to occur, which makes it slightly more believable that it's an alternate universe.

That scene with them walking through the grass by that tree is shown so much that there must be some relevance that they can't recall. Maybe something happened afterwards? Something essential. Maybe it happened in an alternate universe? Maybe all the things they forget happen in an alternate universe hence why they don't remember. That would explain videos like "Slender Man." Maybe Evan killed Vince in the "Slender Man" video and that's why he's not in this video. Who knows. I think there's certainly relevance to Vinnie not being in the clip though. Obviously the timeline is becoming less and less clear and there may be no real solidity to the timeline at all. Just bits and pieces thrown about providing us clues regardless of whether they're from 50 years ago or the future.

When they arrive at the tree, they look at the top of it and as though they were expecting something to be at the top. Evan chuckles as though saying "well fuck there's nothing there, we wasted our time." All I can think with this is the original myths of slenderman impaling people on the top branches of trees. I'm mildly horrified they were looking for Vinnie.

What is that in the distance at 1:44?

EDIT: Also the names of the videos... 78of76 and now 77of76. It's like they are those occurrences which are OUTSIDE OF the whole. 77/76 implies that it is outside of the 100% of this reality.
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It's clear to me that the reality they are in is the same we saw in the following videos (canon or not -- and the Boys reiterating tonight that those videos couldn't be seen makes me think, again, that they aren't unrelated but perhaps similar in nature to the normal hidden videos) --

78of76.avi,
Slender Man,
Welcome to the ARK.,
And a significant portion of Ashen Waste.

As far as we the viewers can tell, 78of76.avi occurs the earliest on the grounds that the events recorded seem to follow A Day in the Life directly.

It looks as if the boys have been trapped in some dimension that lacks the following --
- The passage of time (clocks appear to be frozen, nights carry on for what should be days at a time)
- Physical coherence (roads and paths loop on themselves and extend for nearly indefinite lengths)
- Human population (the Slender Man and the Rake are the only beings, other than the boys (and, if we are to go by the two off-channel videos, the Doctor and Jessa), that exist there)

.. But these things occurring make no sense. We have been receiving videos and updates from the boys well through and after their trip to the park. So, knowing this, and taking a hint from Jeff's selected HoL passage, what we can reasonably say right now, is that two realities exist: the EMH crew that resides in "our" world, and the crew that, after exploring an abandoned house, were dumped into a cartographer's (hell, a physicist's) worst nightmare -- an alternate dimension.

I strongly believe that the focal point of the entire series rests on this House.

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Okay, I rewatched a couple videos, and now I shall info dump everything I've collected from the canon videos on the multiple universes/alt dimensions theory. Have at it.

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According to GreenFeathers, Evan asked him about box he found. GF described it, and mentioned that there were knife or claw marks on it. Evan took special note of this, asking about the depth of the claw marks. Considering his recent encounters with Alex and the Rake, Evan probably assumed the same creature was involved. Box #1 was found on July 11, which would mean the Rake was active long before turning up in the videos... or the box was clawed in the ARK before it ended up in this timeline/dimension.

"Time and space flee every which way, disregarding your beloved logic."

"Why did god create a dual universe?
So that he might say,
'Be not like me. I am alone.'
And it would be heard."

In "---" and "77of76.avi" both Jeff and Evan refer to thing happening in "a cycle,", things have "come full circle," "it's not like you can change it now," "doing the same thing over and over again," "going in circles," and "not making any progress." When Evan makes these complaints in the latter video, Jeff replies "I've been saying that since the beginning."

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