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iTellTale wrote:
Rebus wrote:
People really need to go through the thread and actually read, I think we're on our fourth recycled suggestion. It's pretty safe to assume that everyone has dissected the whole code/date thing.


Yes, this! And I feel like I repeated myself a little bit while talking about the teleportation theory too, sorry about that...


you repeated a theory that was inconclusive. i see no reason why Masky would use tp on J other then for himself to get into J's room. plus J didnt close his door while walking into jessica's

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I think the warp theory can be disapproved on Video 33.

When J exits Jessica's room Masky exits his room. You can clearly see it's J's room because the hallway matches the previous entries. So you have to believe that he "warps" to other room to get the code, re-enters his room, then when Masky attacks he warps into J's room. Then J exits via Jessica's room and does not teleport anywhere.

Holy crap I haven't said warp so many times since playing Super Mario Brothers when I was 10 years old.

I really don't like the teleport idea, but it's clear it happens in MH (and everymanhybrid) too. It just doesn't happen here. Maybe I'm stuck on the idea Jessica is assisting Masky, but that's my 2 cents.
Then why do neither of the doors Masky/Jay exit from belong to Jay/Jessica's rooms? Razz


both the doors belong to jay and jessica, where are you people coming up with this theory of masky having his own room? why would masky need a hotel room? why would he need to tp J into the room to open the safe. these are unnecessary questions and leading to a red herring in this video. there is absolutely no tping between room. they are in the same rooms they have been in. nothing is implied that they changed rooms.

edit:merged double post. sorry

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xxxblindxxx wrote:
iTellTale wrote:
Rebus wrote:
People really need to go through the thread and actually read, I think we're on our fourth recycled suggestion. It's pretty safe to assume that everyone has dissected the whole code/date thing.


Yes, this! And I feel like I repeated myself a little bit while talking about the teleportation theory too, sorry about that...


you repeated a theory that was inconclusive. i see no reason why Masky would use tp on J other then for himself to get into J's room. plus J didnt close his door while walking into jessica's


You're imposing your paradigm onto the whole teleporting thing - we don't know that the doors have to be closed for the location to change.
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xxxblindxxx wrote:


both the doors belong to jay and jessica, where are you people coming up with this theory of masky having his own room? why would masky need a hotel room? why would he need to tp J into the room to open the safe. these are unnecessary questions and leading to a red herring in this video. there is absolutely no tping between room. they are in the same rooms they have been in. nothing is implied that they changed rooms.

edit:merged double post. sorry
But they don't.

Jay and Jessica's doors are the last 2 at the end of the corridor, in this entry Jay and Masky came out of the doors that were further down the corridor than that.

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 		I'm going Occam's way on this. It would be a lot harder to find a hallway and room doors so subtlety different and then infer TP from the subtle difference. I say NO to TP.
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 		To all you teleporting naysayers, I'd like to ask you a question.

If there were no teleporting shenanigans going on, then where in the hell did Masky come from?


That is to say, how on earth did Masky arrive at this hotel in the middle of nowhere that Jay has striven to keep so secret at the precise right moment to drive Jay off after he gets the tapes out of the safe?

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Salty wrote:

TheCrimsonKnight wrote:
Does anyone else think besides being the code for J´s safe, 1102 might also be a date? February 11th?


Could be, but I don't know why they'd do it year-first.


1102/11/02 = 02/11/2011
makes enough sense to me when i look at it, though it could very easily not be a date.


that being said, i think the first post should be updated with some theories that have been noted in more than 4 separate instances. like the dates thing.

preferably in a spoiler.

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i'm on the 'masky is tta is tim' theory team, i think he's probably been watching the videos and dissecting where jay is staying. i mean, from all the things we've seen if you live in that area it's not that hard to figure it out.

from there's it's just a matter of finding the right hotel, because we'd seen his room number and jessica's as well.

as much as jay is trying to keep a low profile, letting slip key details about where he's staying isn't doing much help.

edit:
the top view from the fisheye lens has quite a bit of foreshortening, and makes the doors look way closer than they actually are. going to agree and say there's no teleportation/warping going on due to that.

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@salkovich
i'm on the 'masky is tta is tim' theory team, i think he's probably been watching the videos and dissecting where jay is staying. i mean, from all the things we've seen if you live in that area it's not that hard to figure it out.

from there's it's just a matter of finding the right hotel, because we'd seen his room number and jessica's as well.

as much as jay is trying to keep a low profile, letting slip key details about where he's staying isn't doing much help.

edit:
the top view from the fisheye lens has quite a bit of foreshortening, and makes the doors look way closer than they actually are. going to agree and say there's no teleportation/warping going on due to that.


I agree that he's obviously been figuring out where Jay is - it's possible he even knew all along. But unless he's been staying in Jessica's room this whole time, or MH is delving into Dickensian levels of coincidence, the timing on his attack is too quick and clean.

And really LOOK at that picture. The fisheye lens warps out to the SIDES. It doesn't add an entire set of doors on either side of the hallway! Masky and Jay do not come out of the same set of doors that lead to Jay's room.

Whether or not it's Jay or Masky causing the teleporting, something is going on.

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 		On the whole Tim=Masky=TTA the evidence for Tim being masky is always the jacket

But in entry 18 I think, the first time Jay ever sees Masky he is wearing a black hoodie (perhaps the one form the twitter picture)

And also in entry ######## TTA refers to 'We'

So perhaps two Maskys?

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 		oh, yeah, i should be looking at the lights. they shadowed the doors and made it look like an entryway.

silly me.

back on the teleportation team.
going to say it's slender-related, though.
just because we don't see him doesn't mean he's not there.

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Salkovich wrote:
To all you teleporting naysayers, I'd like to ask you a question.

If there were no teleporting shenanigans going on, then where in the hell did Masky come from?


That is to say, how on earth did Masky arrive at this hotel in the middle of nowhere that Jay has striven to keep so secret at the precise right moment to drive Jay off after he gets the tapes out of the safe?

How does Masky get anywhere? I'm not denying it's possible that Masky teleported to the hotel, I'm just saying it's very unlikely that there was door-warping going on, that is, Jay went from his room, to Jessica's, back to his own, to his hallway.

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ArkyMcArkArk wrote:

Though the question remains (and isn't being talked about because it isn't obvious and no one reads thread) what the CRAP was in Jessica's safe? I'm hoping we find out and it wasn't closed for convenience. If we find out in a TTA video that would make me super awesome happy.


This may be a reason for Jay to return to the hotel just as he returned to the house. Notice that he says he won't come back alone. That doesn't mean not at all.

I have a feeling this will pop up somewhere in the near future.

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 		OK, upon further scrutiny, they may be exiting rooms further up the hallway as evidenced by the wall light fixtures and what may be another set of doorways before the exit. I withdraw my prior speculation.
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Salkovich wrote:
To all you teleporting naysayers, I'd like to ask you a question.

If there were no teleporting shenanigans going on, then where in the hell did Masky come from?


That is to say, how on earth did Masky arrive at this hotel in the middle of nowhere that Jay has striven to keep so secret at the precise right moment to drive Jay off after he gets the tapes out of the safe?


i may not have definitive proof that the doors need to be shut to tp but when J leaves his dorm to tp, the doors were closed. same as when masky was running around brians house and j got lost in a tping maze.

let me ask all those who agree j was tped. WHY?!?! why would he need to be tped anywhere from those 2 rooms. they were the entire emphasis of season 2 so far besides the park.

i believe there is tping in the entire series but not with J in this entry.

edit (in reference to the above photo) is it possible they just had to move rooms? or they left and came back and had to get those 2 instead? besides freezing the frames and taking a picture they are not implying there was tping going on. with something like this the the creators are normally better about this.

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xxxblindxxx wrote:
Salkovich wrote:
To all you teleporting naysayers, I'd like to ask you a question.

If there were no teleporting shenanigans going on, then where in the hell did Masky come from?


That is to say, how on earth did Masky arrive at this hotel in the middle of nowhere that Jay has striven to keep so secret at the precise right moment to drive Jay off after he gets the tapes out of the safe?


i may not have definitive proof that the doors need to be shut to tp but when J leaves his dorm to tp, the doors were closed. same as when masky was running around brians house and j got lost in a tping maze.

let me ask all those who agree j was tped. WHY?!?! why would he need to be tped anywhere from those 2 rooms. they were the entire emphasis of season 2 so far besides the park.

i believe there is tping in the entire series but not with J in this entry.

edit (in reference to the above photo) is it possible they just had to move rooms? or they left and came back and had to get those 2 instead? besides freezing the frames and taking a picture they are not implying there was tping going on. with something like this the the creators are normally better about this.


Now you're asking the right questions. If teleporting has occurred, there are a couple of scenarios as to the probability of WHY.

1st: Masky set up a 'fake' Jessica room (this would be the adjoining room that Jay walks into) in order to A) convince Jay that Jessica is gone, B) Plant the safe code to make Jay open the safe, and C) Have a place to hide so he can bumrush Jay and scare him out of the hotel.

2nd: JAY DOES THIS ACCIDENTALLY. If Jay has the ability to teleport (and there is evidence that he does) then it's possible he either can't control it, or has forgotten how. In a time of high stress (Masky attack), it seems possible this would kick in to help him escape. The scenario for this would then be: Masky attacks Jay out of Jessica's room, Jay fights back and gets away into Jessica's room, then upon exiting THAT room, teleports further down the hallway.

3rd: Both of the previous things could be happening at once.

EDIT: 4th: Teleporting is an Operator specific thing ONLY. Either he can cause specific doors to teleport to different destinations, or the teleporting is a side effect of his presence. We saw a great deal of screen tearing in Entries 32 and 33 - this so far has meant one thing only, that the Operator is nearby. Maybe Jay just got lucky he didn't walk out a door to the hallway and just end up back in his room.


As to your OOG question, the truth is, we don't know. But it seems really out of character for the creators to mess up something like this.

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Salkovich wrote:


Now you're asking the right questions. If teleporting has occurred, there are a couple of scenarios as to the probability of WHY.

1st: Masky set up a 'fake' Jessica room (this would be the adjoining room that Jay walks into) in order to A) convince Jay that Jessica is gone, B) Plant the safe code to make Jay open the safe, and C) Have a place to hide so he can bumrush Jay and scare him out of the hotel.

2nd: JAY DOES THIS ACCIDENTALLY. If Jay has the ability to teleport (and there is evidence that he does) then it's possible he either can't control it, or has forgotten how. In a time of high stress (Masky attack), it seems possible this would kick in to help him escape. The scenario for this would then be: Masky attacks Jay out of Jessica's room, Jay fights back and gets away into Jessica's room, then upon exiting THAT room, teleports further down the hallway.

3rd: Both of the previous things could be happening at once.


As to your OOG question, the truth is, we don't know. But it seems really out of character for the creators to mess up something like this.


those scenarios seem more out of a character then a small hiccup with the hotel. J doesnt definitively have the power of tping. he is just always around it. Masky definitely can tp and might be able to allow J to tp through his doors. plus if J ran and tped down the hall, how did masky come out of the door next to his? it just doesnt add up. i could see jessica's room being a decoy but thats child's play for masky =if= tta.

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