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Ouroborus
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I'm reading through CYSTW again, trying to reconcile times and what not with the timeline.

It's really creepy how that when Steph goes off her pills seems to be when buisness picks up with the guys. Infact, using the general statement they gave in the ustream(the videos are usually go up a week after they're filmed), you can say that our introduction to CYSTW happened on the same day as Steph's tweet regarding her meds.


Taking a parallell from this, I know IG Jeff had only recently seen Donnie Darko, but I wonder if PM Jeff had seen it before. In DD, the Tangent Universe isn't created when the engine falls from the sky, but when Donnie takes his pills.

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SickSlickMan wrote:
Ouroborus wrote:
Not!Doctor wrote:

Wild Mass Guessing is fun.


It's a freaking blast!


Hating on the alternate dimesion stuff some more, maybe it's just a lot "simpler" than that. House of Leaves, for what we can tell, doesn't really deal in alternate realities(sorta maybe?) but more of a reality bending experience, but one reality.

In other news, does someone who has a good dialouge with Alex care to ask him a little bit of when they discovered Jessa went missing? I'd email Jeff, but I don't think he'd answer.


According to the wiki, she went missing sometime between August 8th and August 15th.

Didz used to talk with Alex a lot, but nobody has heard from her in over a week :/


is Didz ok? Does anyone know what's up with the brood mother?

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Mattwan wrote:
Ouroborus wrote:
I thought ADITL was at Baldpate Mountain..



Good point, Ouroborus. I'd forgotten that we now know where DitL was shot, and it's not outside Lambertville.



My apologies Mattwan, it turns out that Bald Pate Mountain is totally in the vincinity of Washington Crossing.

I actually found a ton of info at this site

http://www.njskylands.com/pk_baldpate_083.htm

plus..about 3/4 of the to the bottom of the page there is a picture of a springhouse which I'm willing to be is the structure in the last video.

I'm currently trying to find the exact location of the clearing and the tree on googlemaps(because I am that bored)

edit: Found it! http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=titusville,+nj&aq=&sll=37.09024,-95.712891&sspn=26.039016,53.613281&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Titusville,+Ewing,+Mercer,+New+Jersey&ll=40.323146,-74.901019&spn=0.003051,0.006545&t=h&z=17

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Awesome work, Ouroboros!

So Jeff and Jessa returned to the scene of the DitL weirdness just a couple of days at most before Jessa disappeared. I'm guessing that's also the area where they found the tree bags in the hidden clip in Centralia. So, was the August 15 just an innocent hike or a recon mission?

I'd toyed with the idea that they might have been intentionally trying to draw Slendy out, not realizing at that point exactly how dangerous he is, but the voicemail makes it sound like Jessa was caught unawares and hadn't really believed the stories up to the point where she was abducted. Any other theories?

And speaking of the areas, Jeff has (I think) a couple of times referred to an area where palettes were laid down in DitL. He mentioned it in a twitpic caption, at least, and I think he mentioned it in the Green Feathers video. I'm guessing the palettes were what looks sort of like a boardwalk in DitL? Any idea why they might be significant?

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Ouroborus
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I'm thinking the boardwalk area could be underwater stuff.


I'm still a little shocked at the disconect from Jeff to Steph, via Jessa. Not
that it would have been answered, but I should have submitted a question to Steph about the "we were all supposed to meet up" statement.

We can only assume that it was Jessa who was behind it. She was the only one at the time that was aware of Steph's past(maybe? But certainly of HIM) and of the guys stuff(I guess, you'd think she'd watch the videos and that Jeff would talk to her about it...)

We don't have enough on Jessa to really know her, that stinks since it might give us an idea on what went down with her.

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What I'm thinking is this:

August 8th: Jeff and Jessa take a stroll. Possibility of Slendy seeing her and making her a target.
August 9th-13th: Slendy starts stalking Jessa. She is aware of it and very, very freaked out.
August 13th-14th: Jessa can't take it anymore and takes off. No clue why she didn't tell Jeff. Slendy somehow communicated with her?
August 15th: IG Jeff, as Anon, asks Damsel (who he knows is a friend of Jessa) if she's seen Jessa.
August 19th: Jeff takes off to find Jessa.
September 4th: Jeff returns. "Reunion" is posted.
Mid-September: Jessa, wherever she is, gets the courage to call Damsel. Slendy is close behind and gets her.
Between Mid-September and October 16th: The events of "Congratulations Magus!.avi" occur. are wiped from Jeff and Vince's memories, and somehow added to the video sent to Magus.

What do you think, everyone...?

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Volcanic wrote:
What I'm thinking is this:

August 8th: Jeff and Jessa take a stroll. Possibility of Slendy seeing her and making her a target.
August 9th-13th: Slendy starts stalking Jessa. She is aware of it and very, very freaked out.
August 13th-14th: Jessa can't take it anymore and takes off. No clue why she didn't tell Jeff. Slendy somehow communicated with her?
August 15th: IG Jeff, as Anon, asks Damsel (who he knows is a friend of Jessa) if she's seen Jessa.
August 19th: Jeff takes off to find Jessa.
September 4th: Jeff returns. "Reunion" is posted.
Mid-September: Jessa, wherever she is, gets the courage to call Damsel. Slendy is close behind and gets her.
Between Mid-September and October 16th: The events of "Congratulations Magus!.avi" occur. are wiped from Jeff and Vince's memories, and somehow added to the video sent to Magus.

What do you think, everyone...?
I haven't looked into the timeline enough to know if there are any flaws here, but this is about the order I had imagined things happening. Maybe Jessa's reason for not telling Jeff that something was wrong is the same as Alex's. Nobody wants to hurt the Sad Panda.
The only thing you have that I don't agree with is the Congratulations Magus!.avi thing, which I believe didn't really happen, at least not in our universe. But if it did, that must be where it fits in.

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If they cannot see parts of videos, why not just ask them to put an hour glass in front of the screen when they are seeing the video? Also, put a camera filming the hour glass from the side.

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Ouroborus wrote:
Mattwan wrote:
Ouroborus wrote:
I thought ADITL was at Baldpate Mountain..



Good point, Ouroborus. I'd forgotten that we now know where DitL was shot, and it's not outside Lambertville.



My apologies Mattwan, it turns out that Bald Pate Mountain is totally in the vincinity of Washington Crossing.

I actually found a ton of info at this site

http://www.njskylands.com/pk_baldpate_083.htm

plus..about 3/4 of the to the bottom of the page there is a picture of a springhouse which I'm willing to be is the structure in the last video.

I'm currently trying to find the exact location of the clearing and the tree on googlemaps(because I am that bored)

edit: Found it! http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=titusville,+nj&aq=&sll=37.09024,-95.712891&sspn=26.039016,53.613281&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Titusville,+Ewing,+Mercer,+New+Jersey&ll=40.323146,-74.901019&spn=0.003051,0.006545&t=h&z=17


well it looks like the object in the distance in "77of76.AVI" was just a building. im wondering if that area's the "place of refuge from damnation".
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cochinosanchez wrote:
Ouroborus wrote:
Mattwan wrote:
Ouroborus wrote:
I thought ADITL was at Baldpate Mountain..



Good point, Ouroborus. I'd forgotten that we now know where DitL was shot, and it's not outside Lambertville.



My apologies Mattwan, it turns out that Bald Pate Mountain is totally in the vincinity of Washington Crossing.

I actually found a ton of info at this site

http://www.njskylands.com/pk_baldpate_083.htm

plus..about 3/4 of the to the bottom of the page there is a picture of a springhouse which I'm willing to be is the structure in the last video.

I'm currently trying to find the exact location of the clearing and the tree on googlemaps(because I am that bored)

edit: Found it! http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=titusville,+nj&aq=&sll=37.09024,-95.712891&sspn=26.039016,53.613281&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Titusville,+Ewing,+Mercer,+New+Jersey&ll=40.323146,-74.901019&spn=0.003051,0.006545&t=h&z=17


well it looks like the object in the distance in "77of76.AVI" was just a building. im wondering if that area's the "place of refuge from damnation".


I'm fairly certain that we see the building in ADitL when the boys are messing around with the picnic table...
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Ouroborus wrote:
"place of refuge from damnation"


Dictionary.net wrote:
3. The large, chestlike vessel in which Noah and his family were preserved during the Deluge. --Gen. vi. Hence: Any place of refuge.


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So, looking back through the series, and this thread, I have a theory on HABIT.

HABIT seemingly is able to possess people, which would explain Evan being a complete and utter psycho. Okay, more of a psycho than usual.

However, it dawned on my that peoples behaviour has been erratic throughout the series, and that HABIT, at one point or another, may have possessed most of the EMH crew.

Vinnie, for example, has at some point been in contact with
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The Rake, made evident after they found his phone in Alex's closet.
At some point, HABIT has used Vinnie to communicate with him in Alex's own room.

Evan... well... duh.

Jeff just became a social retard. He didn't notice his brother was being attacked, he called the cops on an innocent woman, he would go missing, his behaviour ranged from depressed to idiot... then everything went to normal and he was happy again. Either he was possesed beforehand, and is now being happy as a coping mechanism, or he is possesed NOW, which is why he seemingly no longer gives a shit that the love of his life may be dead.

Alex may even be posessed. He talks as if
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his parents are alive, but is fully aware they are dead.
So, why wouldn't he tell Jeff that he was being attacked in fear that his parents would put Sparky down, which we know would not be the case. Was HABIT stopping him from doing so? Probably not, because his brother may have been posessed at the time as well. [/spoiler]

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@MikeBlumenthal

Except that we don't know that Vinnie put the cell phone in there deliberately or that any of the characters problems are caused by anything except their own flaws. Yeah, plenty of it could be caused by HABIT, but right now we don't have evidence for that. For all we know, Evan may be on a daily regimen of risperidone for his crazypants tendencies and the boys just don't feel like sharing that kind of intimate information with us.

Now, that last one isn't very likely, considering the undeniably supernatural happenings, but still.
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Luipaard wrote:
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Except that we don't know that Vinnie put the cell phone in there deliberately or that any of the characters problems are caused by anything except their own flaws. Yeah, plenty of it could be caused by HABIT, but right now we don't have evidence for that. For all we know, Evan may be on a daily regimen of risperidone for his crazypants tendencies and the boys just don't feel like sharing that kind of intimate information with us.

Now, that last one isn't very likely, considering the undeniably supernatural happenings, but still.


I forgot to mention my reasoning for thinking Vince was posessed into communicating with The Rake in Alex's room. During the end of 'A Day with GreenFeathers', after the call with Ryan, Vince mentions he 'heard those noises again' (at least I remember him saying again. I might be an idiot.) But even if he didn't, how would he know the noises? IIRC, the heavy breathing of Rake in the past videos was hidden to the EMH crew. Now, it is entirely possible he knows the noises from Alex's videos... but that still doesn't explain the phone.

My theory is the noises Vince heard were aggressive (Rake was in attack mode at the time), and he remembers the noises from when HABIT posessed him and used him to talk to Rake in Alex's room. Vince dropped his phone in the closet while posessed, and when he was unposessed, he wouldn't remember were his phone was, because he wasn't fully concious at the time. HABIT had put it in there to swing some suspicion toward Vinnie. While it doesn't seem to have worked thus far, something may happen in the future that causes the rest of the group to put 2+2 together and get 5. At some point, they're going to turn on Vince for whats been going on.

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MikeBlumenthal wrote:
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Except that we don't know that Vinnie put the cell phone in there deliberately or that any of the characters problems are caused by anything except their own flaws. Yeah, plenty of it could be caused by HABIT, but right now we don't have evidence for that. For all we know, Evan may be on a daily regimen of risperidone for his crazypants tendencies and the boys just don't feel like sharing that kind of intimate information with us.

Now, that last one isn't very likely, considering the undeniably supernatural happenings, but still.


I forgot to mention my reasoning for thinking Vince was posessed into communicating with The Rake in Alex's room. During the end of 'A Day with GreenFeathers', after the call with Ryan, Vince mentions he 'heard those noises again' (at least I remember him saying again. I might be an idiot.) But even if he didn't, how would he know the noises? IIRC, the heavy breathing of Rake in the past videos was hidden to the EMH crew. Now, it is entirely possible he knows the noises from Alex's videos... but that still doesn't explain the phone.

My theory is the noises Vince heard were aggressive (Rake was in attack mode at the time), and he remembers the noises from when HABIT posessed him and used him to talk to Rake in Alex's room. Vince dropped his phone in the closet while posessed, and when he was unposessed, he wouldn't remember were his phone was, because he wasn't fully concious at the time. HABIT had put it in there to swing some suspicion toward Vinnie. While it doesn't seem to have worked thus far, something may happen in the future that causes the rest of the group to put 2+2 together and get 5. At some point, they're going to turn on Vince for whats been going on.


Ah, that's a good point, I'd forgotten that Vinnie had heard that. Damn, I should have remembered, I could have asked during the Ustream!

To play with your interesting theory, what would HABIT have to gain by casting suspicion on Vince?
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