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[SPEC] A Theory about Timasky
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StSamovar
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 		[SPEC] A Theory about Timasky
So, I'm firmly in the camp that believes TTA = Tim = Masky (although I'm willing to admit the possibility of other Masky-like entities). For the sake of keeping this thread on track, I'd like to request that we avoid debate on that particular issue (especially since Entry 33 doesn't leave much room for doubt).

So. Here's my theory:
Timasky/TTA has unwillingly become some sort of larval Operator. Here is my evidence:

    1. He has Operator-like abilities, and affects cameras in a similar manner. Up until recently his effect on cameras hasn't been that pronounced, but in Entry 33 we see visual tearing at the bottom of the screen, which previously was a distinct sign of the Operator.
    2. He seems to be helping Jay some of the time and antagonizes him at other times. To me this could mean that he is having more and more difficulty remaining 'human'. He wants to help Jay, either out of altruism or because Jay might be able to find some sort of cure, but his Operator urges keep causing him to be aggressive.
    3. His difficulty communicating. So far, the Operator is the only character who has never, as far as we know, communicated with a human being. TTA's video entries stopped some time ago, but even before they stopped they were difficult to understand/decode. So this might be another symptom.

I'm not sure if I want to extent the same idea to Jess and Jay, mostly because they still seem more or less completely human.

Thanks for reading- I welcome any and all criticism.

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Salty
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 		Re: [SPEC] A Theory about Timasky
StSamovar wrote:

3. His difficulty communicating. So far, the Operator is the only character who has never, as far as we know, communicated with a human being.


"SPEAKS TO ME"

Not conclusive evidence or anything, but it's something.

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JKatkinaModerator
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 		If he's turning into an Operator, then why the mask? Do you suppose he's losing his face already, too? He seemed perfectly normal in Entry #15 during his interview, both physically and communicatively (if you make allowances for fib-based fidgeting).

It's an interesting idea. However, the few times we see Masky in last season and this one, he doesn't seem significantly changed in the way he moves or the things he's doing. That, combined with the fact that Tim in #15 looked fine, would imply that this change that is overtaking him first very quickly (between #15 and #19, where he appears in Jay's room and really fucks with the camera, and then super slowly over the last 7 months. Or rather, if you take his coughing and water-guzzling during the production of MH to be proof of this selfsame affliction, than super, duper slowly overall.

I think it's more likely that the Operator is having an effect on him, perhaps changing him in some fundamental way, but it's not into another Operator, and TTA's dubiously communicative videos are more the result of some strange but intentional decision-making on Tim's part.

Also, this really should have gone in any number of miscellaneous already existing threads about Masky, or better yet, the sorely neglected General Discussion Thread.

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 		For some reason, I've been under the impression that the general discussion thread was only to post up links to videos and twitter updates. Or that that was what it was originally intended for. So we can use it as a sort of continued trailhead, then?

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Dray wrote:
For some reason, I've been under the impression that the general discussion thread was only to post up links to videos and twitter updates. Or that that was what it was originally intended for. So we can use it as a sort of continued trailhead, then?


It was meant to be an extension of the trailhead, I'm pretty sure! We had an "official season 2 thread" for tweets and stuff, but I mean... that one gets lost in the flood of junk between entries every single time.

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 		Yeah, okay. I'd gotten sidetracked by all of the new threads and so wasn't sure what was meant for which.

In regards to Masky/Tim being a larval form of the Operator... I don't know, I feel like it doesn't really make a lot of sense. Why would the Operator be following Alex around so completely and then use Tim for such a transformation? If anything, it seems more likely that the Operator, being, you know, an Operator, is using Tim as a way to connect to the puny mortals. Even there I'm hesitant because Masky/TTA doesn't always seem to be trying to harm Jay, just keep him off balance. And it would seem that, while the Operator's methods and goals are inscrutable, he's far more malignant than TTA can ever be.

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 		Re: [SPEC] A Theory about Timasky
I've touched on a theory that is similar, in that my evidence is almost the same as yours. Let's compare:
StSamovar wrote:
1. He has Operator-like abilities, and affects cameras in a similar manner. Up until recently his effect on cameras hasn't been that pronounced, but in Entry 33 we see visual tearing at the bottom of the screen, which previously was a distinct sign of the Operator.

I definitely agree that the Operator's electrical interference properties are "rubbing off" on Masky, however it really seems unlikely that he'd become another one. The Operator's scare factor is that he's the only one causing this, and no one can quite pinpoint exactly what he is. Making another Operator would lessen the impact of "one being is doing all of this".
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2. He seems to be helping Jay some of the time and antagonizes him at other times. To me this could mean that he is having more and more difficulty remaining 'human'. He wants to help Jay, either out of altruism or because Jay might be able to find some sort of cure, but his Operator urges keep causing him to be aggressive.

Masky's intentions are definitely his own, helping or scaring Jay in the direction that Masky wants. He's never actually caused, or attempted to cause, any permanent harm to Jay in any of their encounters.

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Bingo Zero
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 		I suspect that TTA's goal is to "steal" The Operator's ablities. That he recognizes the power in them and he's learning their "rules" so he can imitate them. But he needs to use Jay to fully realize them... somehow.

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Nora-belle
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 		I had one theory. It's kind of hard to explain, but I'll give it a shot.

I think that Tim is maybe protecting Jay instead of trying to "get him." I mean, one would argue that he couldn't be since he tried to attack Jay twice, but those times that Masky "attacked" Jay, it seemed like a really feeble attack if anything. I mean, in entry 33 when he runs at J, he seems to be throwing his hands up as if to say "I SURRENDER!" right before Jay goes all "SPARTA" and hits him with his flashlight.

I don't really have anything else to back me up, but that's my "educated-as-I-can-get" kind of guess.

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The World Ends With You
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 		I like your theory OP. The video tearing was a bit odd to say the least. What I wouldn't give to see another shot of Slender Man (sorry folks, I'm still calling him this).

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TheRelicRetard.
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 		Maybe the hotel they're in IS the ark? After all, there was another Operator victim there too, and maybe Masky knew that and was trying to keep Jay safe from harm?

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Corvus42
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 		Don't forget the camera was acting up around Jessica as well. Actually I thought she was goign to turn out to be a masky as well. I view him as a sort of cultist who wants to be like the Operator.

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shoeler
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 		we've seen cameras do weird visual tearing before when SM or anyone doesn't really seem to be around, with the entry 21 weird hole thing coming to mind. I've kind of inferred that if slenderman is around something or someone for awhile, his slender-particles (for lack of a better name i guess) kind of rub off on whatever he's by, and that kind of causes the distortion.

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cemetrygates
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 		Re: [SPEC] A Theory about Timasky
Zarggg wrote:
I definitely agree that the Operator's electrical interference properties are "rubbing off" on Masky, however it really seems unlikely that he'd become another one. The Operator's scare factor is that he's the only one causing this, and no one can quite pinpoint exactly what he is. Making another Operator would lessen the impact of "one being is doing all of this"


While I don't buy into it personally, another way to look at it could be that rather than becoming ANOTHER Operator, maybe he is slowly become a part of THE Operator?

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White
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 		Regarding the visual tearing
Theory
Since we all seem to be on the same page that the Operator must be pulling strings with Masky and Jessica. Is it so hard to believe that the visual tearing is still being caused by the operator himself?

Think about it. Maybe the Operator is present while controlling Masky and or Jessica.

Maybe it's a puppet master kind of situation. When Masky is there, Operator is there pulling the strings. Which would completely explain any visual tearing around Jessica or Masky.

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