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[SPEC] The Safe
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SadlyChamo
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 		What about that doll he found in the house?

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 		don't know if it the right place while my computer speed is sooo slow. any suggestions for me?




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Rogue Thoughts wrote:
I think it's gonna be:
1) Tapes of the previous 7 months
2) Provided Masky isn't dead, a tape of Masky taking whatever was originally in the safe (which is probably 1 or 3)
3) J's Notes

Okay, I'm gonna have to explain the last one, and it'll probably end up being a huge wall-of-text, so I apologize in advance.

I think that the Operator emits a sort of electro wave like the kind used in Electroconvulsive/Electroshock therapy (probably the more dangerous sine-wave), which would explain the distortion on the cameras, the ibuprofen, and the memory loss. Camera distortion is obvious.
Ibuprofen is usually administered after ECT sessions to deal with the headaches that can occur (I think J tweeted/said in one of the entries that he had massive headaches--I know Jessica said she did in 32). This theory also assumes the Ibuprofen J found wasn't just a red herring--it was something for us to look into.
Memory loss: I think that the events of noentry happened months ago, and with that event, J developed Anterograde amnesia (where you can't develop new memories) in addition to the more common (in MH) Retrograde amnesia. This would explain why he can't remember /anything/ from the past 7 months, and a couple of recent slip-ups (there hadn't been any sign of Slendy until 32, so what was making J forget that he told Jessica about the documentary/house/job? It wasn't that he was forgetting, the lingering anterograde amnesia prevented him from making those memories in the first place). To deal with this, J probably had something like a notebook that he kept with/near him which held information about his findings, and maybe something like "there's this girl, Jessica, in the adjoining room that got dragged into this mess. She's over there because I won't remember her in the morning, and I don't want to freak out because there's someone else here before I read this" and it would continue from there. I'm assuming we'll figure out everything J figured out before we find the notes in the safe, though.

And yeah, there's more to my (probably wrong) theory, but it's a little OT for a Safe thread >>


I think this is a really cool theory, both in terms of what the safe holds and how it ties the seven month gap together! Even how it gives Jay an excuse for some of his epic awkward, haha. This also seems like a really appropriate explanation for the Operator's effect on people and cameras -- he'll fuck you up just by being around, nevermind what else he'll do to you.

But why would he put his notes in the safe, knowing he'd probably forget the combo? One would think he'd plan ahead for that if he knew he was unable to remember. And how do the twitpics play into this theory, especially if Jay didn't have access to his notes? It'd be hard to plan to upload a new video on a specific date if you knew you'd forget to do it (if you think Jay is the person in the mask in the twitpic), and I just can't see Totheark having the ability to predict when a forgetful fellow like J was going to make his first entry in 7 months.

(Very Happy And if you're worried about off-topicness, we could continue this discussion in the General Discussion thread or something!)

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 		lol, I have to admit that it would be an epic end to the season if he were to open up the safe, inside is a mask. Just a mask. As j pulls it out, he looks back to jessica, who is on the ground, asleep/ having a siezure, she stands, all Masky like and attacks J, the camera goes crashing to the ground. When jessica wakes up she doesn't remember what happened adn when she turns on the computer MH is still logged on, so she uploads the video, confused, and we don't hear anything for another 6 months.

The safe could hold the mask, which triggers the Masky mode in some way, and J hid it there to keep him from giving it to Jessica? A little far fetched.....

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JKatkina wrote:

I think this is a really cool theory, both in terms of what the safe holds and how it ties the seven month gap together! Even how it gives Jay an excuse for some of his epic awkward, haha. This also seems like a really appropriate explanation for the Operator's effect on people and cameras -- he'll fuck you up just by being around, nevermind what else he'll do to you.

But why would he put his notes in the safe, knowing he'd probably forget the combo? One would think he'd plan ahead for that if he knew he was unable to remember. And how do the twitpics play into this theory, especially if Jay didn't have access to his notes? It'd be hard to plan to upload a new video on a specific date if you knew you'd forget to do it (if you think Jay is the person in the mask in the twitpic), and I just can't see Totheark having the ability to predict when a forgetful fellow like J was going to make his first entry in 7 months.

(Very Happy And if you're worried about off-topicness, we could continue this discussion in the General Discussion thread or something!)

I always prefer to have one theory that ties everything together, then a couple separate theories. The more stuff I can tie in, the more I like the theory lol

Oh yeah, I guess I forgot to address that part (give me a break, it was 1am XD).

Okay, I didn't think J put the notes in the safe at all. I also don't think it's J in the twitpic. I do think Masky=TTA=Tim, but I don't think he's insane--just acting like it. I also don't think it was Masky who died in noentry--I think it was Brian.

Okay, I think Masky=TTA=Tim for pretty much the same reasons everyone else does, but I also think TTA=Tim because of the Messages video. The main part of the vid was "Tell us You have been keeping secrets." referencing J video taping himself. Not a lot of people talk about the last part: "Smile for the camera" and the picture of Tim. I think TTA is talking to himself, and posting a picture of himself. Basically a "I revealed my secret, why don't you reveal yours" type of thing.

Going off that Masky=Tim, why put a mask on, and then wear your tell-tale jacket? To make the jacket an identifier. I think Tim then either stole J's hoodie, or got one of his own, and posted that twitpic to 'frame' J in a sense. Make J (or us) believe that J was masking it up over the past 7 months. Why? To make J look in all the wrong places for clues. Whatever J had found was so dangerous, he couldn't even tell us about it. And without his notes telling him not to, Tim knew J would probably turn to us for help, in the form of an entry, the morning after Tim came--Nov 23. I'd imagine Tim would have to go in maskless to J's room (there were still staff around, after all--or J knew with certainty that Tim was Masky), and wanting to make the notes inaccessible to J as quick as possible, he just threw them in the safe knowing he could come back and get them if need be. J probably woke up right as Tim was finishing up, and seeing Tim was probably enough of a jolt to help with his memory issues, which is why we're not seeing too many memory issues since then.

Okay, I think I'm done. I'll probably get these posts together, plus a couple other things I left out so it doesn't get too OT, and post them in the General Discussion thread. But later. I've been putting off homework all weekend, it's about time I do something XD

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TheCrimsonKnight
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 		Thoughts:
What is inside the safe is some tapes/flash drives of J´s last months. It´s got to be.
On the code, this might have been said: remember Entry #27. The heartbeat sounds at the beggining? Morse code?

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Philosopher Xu
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 		From a storytelling point of view, tapes/flashdrives or a clue as to where to find more makes sense. However it remains just a guess.

If J put anything in there during his mem-wiped period, he must have been cogent enough to realize that whatever it is, it's something someone else wants, and J does not want it destroyed. That's what you use a safe for after all. Knowing about his memory loss issues, and assuming he has control of his faculties at the time of using the safe, he would also have left himself a means to get the code. This is most likely in his laptop somewhere, in a file he hasn't noticed.

Since he hasn't found a combination left by his previous self, it then becomes more likely that whatever is in there was put there by someone else. That other person is then able to allow J access to the contents at a time of that person's choosing, but J can't get in there without that other agent's control.

This does not rule out that there are tapes in there, but I'm going to guess the contents as being some sort of "Masky kit" - a mask, the missing knife, the doll, pills, etc.. J only can get in the safe when he has "control taken away from him".

Bonus Unsupported Wild Guess I'd Like To See: The script from Marble Hornets

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 		didn't know where to put this, but I'm pretty sure the tapes aren't of J during the 7 month blackout, its the tapes TTA has been using. The longer I've been looking into it the more I doubt Alex being TTA, I want him to be TTA, but I am no longer sure. If TTA is masky, or anyone else, than the last video said that cameras are death, he then sends the camera to alex to prove it, he's been staying in the Hotel and j found it some how.

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 		Sorry for the double post but i didn't want to clutter the forums with another thread about the same thing. i'd like to change this into an archiving thread for any theories (pertaining to season 2)

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 		Hmm..I'm new here, but I had a thought from reading someone's post just a page ago, about how J couldn't have closed the safe.

Well - from watching his entry where he wakes up in the hotel, it seems that the room he was in was well-lived in(he set up his camera, bed, etc etc), and so perhaps he locked something away in there before he began experiencing memory loss?

This is just my theory, here.

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Silentium wrote:
Hmm..I'm new here, but I had a thought from reading someone's post just a page ago, about how J couldn't have closed the safe.

Well - from watching his entry where he wakes up in the hotel, it seems that the room he was in was well-lived in(he set up his camera, bed, etc etc), and so perhaps he locked something away in there before he began experiencing memory loss?

This is just my theory, here.


Might want to watch the newest entry.

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Indextic wrote:
Silentium wrote:
Hmm..I'm new here, but I had a thought from reading someone's post just a page ago, about how J couldn't have closed the safe.

Well - from watching his entry where he wakes up in the hotel, it seems that the room he was in was well-lived in(he set up his camera, bed, etc etc), and so perhaps he locked something away in there before he began experiencing memory loss?

This is just my theory, here.


Might want to watch the newest entry.


I just did - my mistake. Smile

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 		lol, sal right

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