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[SPEC] The Big Question
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Bingo Zero
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Well, here's an out there theory, Jay, Jessica, and Tim are trapped in some kind of limbo, a Silent Hill-type other world (the world the inhabit is extremely sparsely populated, except the bare essential human cogs in the machine of society, so they're more like scenery than people). Alex actually escaped to go on and live a normal-ish life (when Alex said "they're all gone" he meant it literally, and Jay didn't get the tapes from him like he remembered). Jay and crew don't know they're basically ghosts, only TTA figured it out and is using Jay and his motivation to find Alex to find the bridge back to the real living world (the ark). Tapes and electronic signals seem to pass between the Slender-dimension and the real world so Jay is able to keep finding Alex's old tapes which shape his investigation and upload the videos to the internet. Despite Alex escaping, the Operator still pursues him to close off all chances of escape from his victims.

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Philosopher Xu
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I like that other-dimension theory actually, it fits in with why there are barely any other people/cars around.

However as to how it all started, I think it has something to do with the script, the words used in the original Marble Hornets film Alex was making. Something about the story summoned the Operator. When there was a script revision, Brian went missing and Tim went Masky, so something significant happened around the time the words got changed. J was also the script assistant (the production member who is there to ensure continuity and adherence to the script), which Alex made a point of letting us know.

To follow this thought through, the Ark is the original unrevised script which is needed to somehow "unsummon" the Operator. In the absence of the original writer (Alex), the most likely person for TTA to go after for an unrevised version would then be J.

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Silentium
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Xu, that's a good thought.

Who knows what arcs the original script of Marble Hornets had in it? It could have been something that was spoken, or a location, or even standing positions of the cast/crew that was enough to summon Slenderman - perhaps the dimensional gateway was weakest where he was originally summoned.

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Bingo Zero
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The Ark... equals... the story arc. I will be so disappointed if this turns out to be true. I agree that I think the script is suspicious, with all the distortion it produced in Entry 20, but to have totheark boil down to a pun... uhg... what bothers me most is it's possible! I can totally see this going down, but... it's such a bad pun. Confused

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Slaughtermatic
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I don't think it was a coincidence. I have 2 theories.

1.) Alex and co. saw Slenderman. Nothing happened. That probably could have been the end of this whole thing. But Alex got...curious. He went home and started looking up all the stuff on the Slenderman mythos. He was intrigued. He wanted to see it again. If you recall, the very first picture posted of Slenderman on Somethingawful was of him at a park. That's why Alex went to that park at night in entry 4. He started hunting Slenderman for sightings. Slendy didn't like this. Eventually he started following Alex, and the rest is history.

2.) Alex and co. saw Slenderman. Nothing happened. That probably could have been the end of this whole thing.
But there was one thing that Slenderman saw that intrigued him. There's been pictures of Slenderman before. Plenty of them. But before MarbleHornets there was never any video. This was the first time Slenderman saw a camera. And we KNOW that the camera's important because Slenderman (As far as we know) never bothered Alex after he left until his girlfriend brought out the camera.

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ktron10
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Bingo Zero wrote:
Well, here's an out there theory, Jay, Jessica, and Tim are trapped in some kind of limbo, a Silent Hill-type other world (the world the inhabit is extremely sparsely populated, except the bare essential human cogs in the machine of society, so they're more like scenery than people). Alex actually escaped to go on and live a normal-ish life (when Alex said "they're all gone" he meant it literally, and Jay didn't get the tapes from him like he remembered). Jay and crew don't know they're basically ghosts, only TTA figured it out and is using Jay and his motivation to find Alex to find the bridge back to the real living world (the ark). Tapes and electronic signals seem to pass between the Slender-dimension and the real world so Jay is able to keep finding Alex's old tapes which shape his investigation and upload the videos to the internet. Despite Alex escaping, the Operator still pursues him to close off all chances of escape from his victims.

I think that is is a very good theory, sir. I also think that we should look into the reason that Slendy is referred to as the Operator in MH.

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onetruepurple
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Warning:
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ktron10 wrote:
I also think that we should look into the reason that Slendy is referred to as the Operator in MH.
The most probable (and most boring) answer: it's for the legal reasons.

By their partnership with youtube, the MH team is making money - however little - off Slender Man, who may or may not be an entity in public domain (likely), or copyrighted by Victor Surge (less likely, but still). Thus, the safe option was to 'invent' a new entity, the Operator, who strongly derives from Slender Man but is otherwise different.

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distilled
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I dont think Slenderman is copyrighted. Very Happy
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Tyjet
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Bingo Zero wrote:
The Ark... equals... the story arc. I will be so disappointed if this turns out to be true. I agree that I think the script is suspicious, with all the distortion it produced in Entry 20, but to have totheark boil down to a pun... uhg... what bothers me most is it's possible! I can totally see this going down, but... it's such a bad pun. Confused
Story arcs aren't usually used in movies, right? They belong more to episodic media like TV shows, and well, MH. So, I doubt it would be a pun if The Ark ended up being the old script.

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Philosopher Xu
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Every story you ever heard (and movies are a storytelling medium, usually) has an "arc" ie. exposition, complication, resolution. Although that's not what I was thinking of when I mentioned the script, I think it does fit here as a pun.

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Rogue Thoughts
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Every time someone mentions another dimension or a limbo or something, all I think of is:
'A dimension of sound, a dimension of sight, and dimension of mind. You're moving into a land of both shadow and substance. Things and ideas. You just crossed over into...The Twilight Zone.' XD

@ktron10
I think it's because having a Slenderman-inspired baddie gives them way from freedom than just Slenderman. They're free to make up stuff as they need to, and don't have to adhere to the original mythos if it doesn't fit in with the story.

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ZargggModerator
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@Slaughtermatic:

Theory #1 probably has the most merit. However, you need to keep in mind that for the purposes of this ARG, "Slenderman" doesn't factor in at all. The Operator is a distinct entity meant to resemble and evoke our, the viewers', feelings of Slenderman, however, Slenderman and the Slenderman mythos as we (in the real world) know it may or may not even exist. Your other points, with the exception of Alex researching on the Internet and replacing all instances of "Slenderman" with "the Operator," are valid.

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Slaughtermatic
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Actually, J originally posted the first few entries in the Slenderman thread on SomethingAwful, acting completely in character the whole time. So I think that mythos IS supposed to exist in the world of MH.

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awakeasaurusrex
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Re: Warning:
this post might be total bullshit

onetruepurple wrote:
By their partnership with youtube, the MH team is making money - however little - off Slender Man, who may or may not be an entity in public domain (likely), or copyrighted by Victor Surge (less likely, but still). Thus, the safe option was to 'invent' a new entity, the Operator, who strongly derives from Slender Man but is otherwise different.
Victor Surge owns copyright in the original forum posts that created Slender Man (unless there's something in the Something Awful terms of use that says you assign to SA copyright in the posts you make on that forum). He doesn't own copyright in the idea of Slender Man himself because copyright doesn't protect ideas, it protects the specific expression of an idea.

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ZargggModerator
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Slaughtermatic wrote:
Actually, J originally posted the first few entries in the Slenderman thread on SomethingAwful, acting completely in character the whole time. So I think that mythos IS supposed to exist in the world of MH.

There is that. At the time I made the post I didn't remember the exact correlation.

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