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Melodyman
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Seems to me that Mysterioso is saying that Josh's dad was a Biospeleologist by trade when he was 'plucked' from that to work on a secret government project where they found some sort of alternative energy source.. possibly alien, and possibly what went out of control when the train carrying stuff from area 51 derailed..
Looks like Mr Minker may have taken the cylinder with the discovery inside it and absconded with it... seems like he has been in hiding since.
The only thing I can find regarding d12 entry is a port on the PDP-11 that is an I/O access point for 4 bit info.
Posted: Fri Jan 28, 2011 2:27 pm
Anteros
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But what does Cave Biology have to do with a possibly alien alternative energy source?
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Posted: Fri Jan 28, 2011 10:02 pm
Jane Smith
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Anteros wrote:
But what does Cave Biology have to do with a possibly alien alternative energy source?
When we think alien, we think new and not originating from earth. So I guess this will depend on your view of what came first.. the chicken.. or the bioengineered egg that predates human history =)
but then again..Im crazy....so....
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Posted: Fri Jan 28, 2011 10:16 pm
Astro McCordian
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Jane Smith wrote:
Anteros wrote:
But what does Cave Biology have to do with a possibly alien alternative energy source?
When we think alien, we think new and not originating from earth. So I guess this will depend on your view of what came first.. the chicken.. or the bioengineered egg that predates human history =)
but then again..Im crazy....so....
Jane
OOOH! What if the same stuff that seeded earth to make life (I don't actually believe in this theory, but for story's sake ), also got dropped into a huge cave, where life developed in a different way, feeding off the "alternate energy source"!! So maybe it's an alien that originated on earth!! That would be pretty awesome!
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Posted: Fri Jan 28, 2011 10:50 pm
KevsterSD
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Astro McCordian wrote:
Jane Smith wrote:
Anteros wrote:
But what does Cave Biology have to do with a possibly alien alternative energy source?
When we think alien, we think new and not originating from earth. So I guess this will depend on your view of what came first.. the chicken.. or the bioengineered egg that predates human history =)
but then again..Im crazy....so....
Jane
OOOH! What if the same stuff that seeded earth to make life (I don't actually believe in this theory, but for story's sake ), also got dropped into a huge cave, where life developed in a different way, feeding off the "alternate energy source"!! So maybe it's an alien that originated on earth!! That would be pretty awesome!
I was thinking something similar to this when looking around online for clues... maybe something related to a cave fish (seeing how this game is so fish themed) There are TROGLobite fish like the Mexican Tetra (blind cavefish) and some others... Maybe there was some kind of new discovery there or something...
Posted: Sat Jan 29, 2011 1:44 am
Ryuu
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Harry Seldon wrote:
kosmopol wrote:
My question is: if he was Biospeleologist and dig deep into the caves, why something they found was "foreign matter"? Is it lasted here on Earth for thousands of years bevor Joshs father and his collegues found it?
It is not hard to believe that something can go undiscovered in a cave for long periods of time. Many caves are not even discovered until a sink hole opens up after a large storm event. I have been in such a cave, and many discoveries are made, such as bones from the Pleistocene.
I am guessing that the foreign matter is some form of extra terrestrial DNA that made its way into a cave after an impact event. Whatever was in that train was not human, so I am guessing that the DNA was used to create something other than energy.
I like the way you think. This gives the movie some body, as opposed to watching a remake of the blob or something like that.
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2011-01-27
*** Host has joined ***
*** Guest1 has joined ***
Guest1: hello?
Host: What happened? Where were you?
Guest1: someone broke into my house
Guest1: was it you?
Host: Don't be foolish. Did they take anything or see anything we've discussed
Guest1: noI don't think so. I think I should call the police
Host: this wasn't a robbery,calling the police will make things worse for you.
Host: Whomever it was was looking for something.
Guest1: they looked through my files.
Guest1: I know they saw the cylinder and the other photos cause they were moved from where I kept them
Guest1: don't think they saw the stuff on my computer, like the picture you sent me.
Guest1: That was my dad, right?
Host: what about the book? do you still have it?
Guest1: No you answer me!
Guest1: Someone just broke into my house and I want answers. What was that picture you sent me?
Host: Your father was a Biospeleologist
Host: He was plucked to work on a project of great importance.
Guest1: For the government?
Host: Yes.
Guest1: What project?
Host: You wouldn't believe me.
Guest1: try me.
Host: We found an important alternative energy source.
Host: It involved foreign matter. But it got out of control.
Guest1: Out of control how?
Guest1: My dad kept something in that empty cylinder didn't he?
Guest1: Is that what they were after?
Host: you are quick. Like your father.
Host: I told you: we found an important alternative energy source. He must have hid it.
Host: do you still have the book?
Guest1: yeah
Host: upload the rest to me using the D12 entry.
Host: I need that coding system.
Guest1: am I in danger? Is my dad?
Host: I don't know
Host: I'm going to post something else I have been working on, something I'm getting shortly from this code.
Host: See if it means anything to you.
Host: We need to find what your father kept in the cylinder. If we find it, we find him.
Guest1: I should shut down my blog, right?
Host: No. Keep posting. Say you were robbe. Say you've involved the police. Lie. You need to act normal.
Guest1: What if they come back?
Host: I am not worried about that.
Host: If they were who I fear is after your father, you wouldn't still be around to speak to me
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Posted: Sat Jan 29, 2011 3:26 am
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MrFett
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It was posted before - but now it seems very similar to the plot we are discussing .
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1334628/NASA-astrobiology-Is-lake-provides-clue-extra-terrestrial-life.html
The bacteria is alien to us - but it exist on earth.
Anyway Mysterio used word "foreign" that could also mean something like unknow civilization leaving in caves.
That would even makes sense since if something is leaving underground it must have find new ways of producing energy
Posted: Sat Jan 29, 2011 3:27 am
kosmopol
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I've read the transcript again. The last line made me very curious:
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If they were who I fear is after your father, you wouldn't still be around to speak to me
Is Mysterio really Joshs father after all?
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Posted: Sat Jan 29, 2011 5:52 am
MrFett
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kosmopol wrote:
I've read the transcript again. The last line made me very curious:
Quote:
If they were who I fear is after your father, you wouldn't still be around to speak to me
Is Mysterio really Joshs father after all?
What in this sentences make think so?
Posted: Sat Jan 29, 2011 6:05 am
kags
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kosmopol wrote:
I've read the transcript again. The last line made me very curious:
Quote:
If they were who I fear is after your father, you wouldn't still be around to speak to me
Is Mysterio really Joshs father after all?
i think the sentence means, that who ever robbed josh, aren't the same people who are after josh's dad. So there may be two sets of bad guys ?
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Posted: Sat Jan 29, 2011 6:35 am
kosmopol
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Perhaps there are really various groups after various targets.
I just ask myself, why "you wouldn't still be around to speak to me "?
Is it the same as: "If they were who I fear is after your father, they would get/kill you" ? This would mean, these guys (the Dad-Hunters) don't know, where Joshs Dad is and mistakenly suppose, Josh does know?
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Posted: Sat Jan 29, 2011 6:51 am
Tracker_56
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It's probably a good thing, but I find it funny that no one has gone in this direction with the D12 reference....
I couldn't resist.
Posted: Sun Jan 30, 2011 10:42 pm
Capsmi
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Tracker_56 wrote:
It's probably a good thing, but I find it funny that no one has gone in this direction with the D12 reference....
I couldn't resist.
Hahahaha I had the same in mind at first "D12" appearance but i had not the " GRANDE COCHONES" to post it...... therfore Tracker big respect LoL
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Posted: Sun Jan 30, 2011 11:07 pm
KevsterSD
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D12--- tape drive? I was thinking about the "commit to tape drive" option on STIES, and found that there was a model of IBM tape drive that was a D-12
3494-D12 - IBM Magstar Tape Library Model D12
Just wondering if this might be related to the D12 entry, since we have yet to use that capability on STIES...
Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 3:19 am
simplicityjones
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Joined: 01 Oct 2010 Posts: 207 Location: Florida Gulf Coast
d12 and power source I like the IBM drive idea, makes sense. But I've been thinking about the angle with the speleologist. What if like amny sci-fi's in the past, the source is a lost cavern or lost world. Maybe even a UFO that had crashed so long ago that all that's left is or was the power source. Like the recently found caves with large crystal formations. Journey to the center of the earth meets godzilla.
While watchinf Fringe it dawned on me where JJ's mind may be. The book about people before. The theory that a complete set of beings could had occupied the earth long before we homo erectus came to be. What if this is using that theory?
Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 9:39 am
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