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qaqa · Unfictologist Joined: 23 Oct 2010 Posts: 1660

I think someone should definitely start talking to Jessie, the same way people began talking to Alex on the side. We need to know where the man is and if he is dead.

I would say they should all go visit Mrs. Corenthal again en masse but I am really queasy about that ending well.

If we had at least one "player" talking one on one with each of the four plus Alex, we might get a little more out of each person. The way things got moving with Jeff in the fall was a one on one conversation. And I think anyone who regularly corresponds with HABIT, which I've tried and failed to do, should speak to him again. Maybe tell him it was a neat trick pulled in "Hidden Videos," and see what he has to say about that incident.

**Posted:** Mon Jan 31, 2011 4:34 pm

Luipaard

How would we communicate with Evan and Vince? Their online accounts are OOG and therefore inaccessible. And I don't like the idea of having to filter through Jeff to talk to them.

**Posted:** Mon Jan 31, 2011 4:36 pm

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As much as I like the guys, the videos are much more interesting when things go south for them. So now that we've gotten confirmation that they are subconsciously related to the Corenthal children, we should pressure them on that.
I agree that doing things live is more likely to get responses, but we haven't been given many chances to interact live for a little while. Even the Ustream was based on questions prepared ahead of time. Jeff hasn't come into Angora chat recently either.

**Posted:** Mon Jan 31, 2011 4:37 pm

qaqa · Unfictologist Joined: 23 Oct 2010 Posts: 1660

**Posted:** Mon Jan 31, 2011 4:39 pm

Luipaard

**Posted:** Mon Jan 31, 2011 4:47 pm

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**Posted:** Mon Jan 31, 2011 4:50 pm

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**Posted:** Mon Jan 31, 2011 4:52 pm

qaqa · Unfictologist Joined: 23 Oct 2010 Posts: 1660

I've been expecting some real shit to go down in one of the Ustreams before. I still worry about that.

I can't recall if Rhi spoke to Jeff through email or Gchat. I might have to email them myself but I really don't know where to start. I am not a very visible HYBRID, either, so I'm self-conscious about that - I am not incredibly techsavvy, I'm not in the trials, I only have been to one live Ustream, I don't correspond with them personally, I don't have a Twitter and I don't comment much on Youtube. Strolling up like Johnny Motherfucker is a bit daunting.

**Posted:** Mon Jan 31, 2011 4:56 pm

Luipaard

**Posted:** Mon Jan 31, 2011 5:00 pm

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qaqa · Unfictologist Joined: 23 Oct 2010 Posts: 1660

Well, let's look over everything again and see if enough of us can form a consensus about what we want to start talking about and to who. The soldier? The letters? I thought they knew about our letters, or have I forgotten? Maybe just dissecting everything they said in the video and explaining to them how it relates to what we've read, in case they're confused? If our only option to direct communication with the EMH boys is Jeff, then we have to direct at least some of this to him.

I think someone else who already has chatted with her should start speaking to Jessie about all of this. She may plead ignorance but she is here for a reason and we need to find out what it is. And I wonder if it is still possible to speak to Steph separately through CANYOUSEETHEWORDS. She may be a lot more open to considering the Corenthal mental issues given her prior history, as opposed to the boys who insist they had normal upbringings.

I have to say I agree with a couple other posters; no matter what we do, I can't see them coming out of this alive, or whole. I'll consider it a tremendous bonus if they're not all dead/insane/AWOL when it's over. I think that is beyond our control. I'll be shocked and delighted if it's not.

**Posted:** Mon Jan 31, 2011 5:06 pm

Lookbehindyou · Decorated Joined: 17 Jan 2011 Posts: 175

I also wanted to add that in the last u-stream, they definitely did a cop-out and took no real questions, but a pre-determined list, so it is true that the ball is in their court almost entirely which is kind of a shame. They want and ask for our help, but yet they turn down, ignore, or insult (from their point of view WE are all out of our minds) our attempts. Granted, some of our attempts have caused them...trouble, but it is frustrating for us just as it would be for them. It has also occurred to me that their own fears of finding out the truth could be part of the storyline and game. Like they are scared that the truth in the videos is going to be their undoing.

I fear the next u-stream will go the same route, but who knows anything is possible. Maybe we need to be more persuasive. If there is another u-stream, count me in. I'm all for asking some hard hitting questions.

**Posted:** Mon Jan 31, 2011 5:10 pm

qaqa · Unfictologist Joined: 23 Oct 2010 Posts: 1660

**Posted:** Mon Jan 31, 2011 5:13 pm

DZombar

That has a point, we want to keep from loosing them but were fighting a next to uphill winding downhill battle with that.

We might not have the best options but the ones we do have are not the best. You know, the whole blocking things out does hold quite a bit of evidence. The thing is several peoples way of coping is denial and avoidance. So if there are parties who are less in denial about things they might be more resistant, because they are aware these things are going on and they are not trying to gloss over or scab over the pieces that have caused issues.

If you know about something you are more likely to expect something to happen so you might be at least half prepared for the events to happen even if you are not sure what the circumstances and events might be.

This might be why some parties seem better adapted to resisting and admitting the things going on with them.

**Posted:** Mon Jan 31, 2011 5:24 pm

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qaqa · Unfictologist Joined: 23 Oct 2010 Posts: 1660

Then maybe someone does something like this - sends the same "Hi guys, hope you're okay" note to both Jeff at the EMH email and if possible, to Steph at CANYOUSEETHEWORDS. I think she's our only other point of direct contact to the four of them.

In addition to wishing them well, though, in that same note I think we should also have someone who's good at being thorough saying "we know you guys are confused and scared, here's what we think happened," and then dissecting everything they said in "Hidden Videos" and explaining at length how this might directly relate to the Corenthal kids mentioned in the letters. And that this connection is no coincidence, and they all perhaps need to start looking at their own pasts and childhoods and family. I haven't looked at those letters in a long while, maybe one of the wiki people would be a good choice. And then maybe mention the soldier, complete with picture.

If Jeff glosses it over, Steph might not. So I'd send the same letter to both people. Don't keep it a secret, but they might have different perspectives.

**Posted:** Mon Jan 31, 2011 5:29 pm