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Luipaard
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qaqa wrote:
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I'm of a personal opinion that they need to talk to Mrs. Corenthal again. As far as we know, she's the only link we have between present day and what went down with the Doc.


That was one of several suggestions I made in my letter, along with looking for Linnie in New York, where Corenthal supposedly had left her. Assuming for a moment Linnie was not the dead woman in the ruins, and I suspect she was. I'll post the long-ass, exposition-heavy letter in a bit, trying to finish some work.

I didn't dwell on the Maryann idea much though because honestly while I think it should be done, I'm concerned that doing that too soon might lead to another Hidden Videos incident, and we get some time lapse and then they all wake up far away, maybe covered in blood, and it's like OOPS MRS. CORENTHAL WAS FOUND DEAD WONDER WHO DID IT GUYS?


I'm just hoping that they can start making some progress soon. I love these guys but they drive me nuts.
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Not to be uncaring, BECAUSE THIS IS REAL LIFE , but even when we "mess up" and suggest something for them to do that the shouldn't....we are learning more and more about the game situation.

I guess what I'm trying to say is that while it's good to be mindful of their well-being, we're also trying to figure out what the hell is going on and those two things might not go hand in hand.

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Not to be uncaring, BECAUSE THIS IS REAL LIFE , but even when we "mess up" and suggest something for them to do that the shouldn't....we are learning more and more about the game situation.

I guess what I'm trying to say is that while it's good to be mindful of their well-being, we're also trying to figure out what the hell is going on and those two things might not go hand in hand.


I completely agree, and I made this same point a few days ago - what's good for us learning the truth may invariably be terrible for them. We don't know how much of an effect we really have IG. IMO our effect is likely be negligible at best. But if we can avoid getting someone "killed" quicker than scheduled by doing something right I'd like to try it.

So that's why I'm both pushing and trying to be careful about other things, at least in my letter. Right now I'm just trying to split the difference and see where the dividing lines might be between gaining knowledge and inviting horrible catastrophe, if indeed there are any. I didn't make any overt suggestion in my letter to Jeff that the kids from the '70s and now could be one and the same. Instead, I suggested that SM, etc. thought they were the same, and suggested they investigate those kids closely and look for where they and the Corenthal kids parallel and don't parallel. I think that's the most IG "humane" thing I can do right now. And if it turns out there is no way to learn more without them being hurt further...well, we'll see.

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qaqa wrote:
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Not to be uncaring, BECAUSE THIS IS REAL LIFE , but even when we "mess up" and suggest something for them to do that the shouldn't....we are learning more and more about the game situation.

I guess what I'm trying to say is that while it's good to be mindful of their well-being, we're also trying to figure out what the hell is going on and those two things might not go hand in hand.


I completely agree, and I made this same point a few days ago - what's good for us learning the truth may invariably be terrible for them. We don't know how much of an effect we really have IG. IMO our effect is likely be negligible at best. But if we can avoid getting someone "killed" quicker than scheduled by doing something right I'd like to try it.

So that's why I'm both pushing and trying to be careful about other things, at least in my letter. Right now I'm just trying to split the difference and see where the dividing lines might be between gaining knowledge and inviting horrible catastrophe, if indeed there are any. I didn't make any overt suggestion in my letter to Jeff that the kids from the '70s and now could be one and the same. Instead, I suggested that SM, etc. thought they were the same, and suggested they investigate those kids closely and look for where they and the Corenthal kids parallel and don't parallel. I think that's the most IG "humane" thing I can do right now. And if it turns out there is no way to learn more without them being hurt further...well, we'll see.


I think you should go ahead and post your letter. So the others can see.
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Okay, here it is. It doesn't tell any of us anything we don't already know and it's very long and I'm not sure of the point, really, but I thought it was worth a shot putting everything together and speaking to Jeff directly about it.

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Um, so, hi there:

My name's [qaqa], and I am one of the HYBRIDS who's been watching you guys and your troubles pretty closely. I know you don't know me from Adam and there are a lot of very active channel viewers out there who you're already acquainted with, and who have probably spoken to you already about some of this stuff, but after your recent "Hidden Videos" experience I was really concerned about your well-being and I felt compelled to contact you personally and give you yet more unwarranted advice. Fair warning that this is gonna be totally TL;DR.

We all saw what happened in your video when you tried to view what was sent to you by CoffeeCollie. I can't imagine how unsettling that's been and I am sorry it happened, but truth be told, I've been worried about something like that occurring with you guys for awhile. I assume you've seen the Dr. James Corenthal letters and all the material regarding these children from the 1970s who seem to bear all of your names - you, Evan, Vincent and Stephanie, as well as a couple others who can't yet be accounted for. According to the Corenthal documents, they were four mentally disturbed children who appeared to be followed by "demons," including perhaps some of the things that have been giving you guys so much trouble, specifically our tall, slender friend. Whether those creatures were real or products of their mind remains unclear, but their "monsters" seem to bear a striking resemblance to the very real things that have been plaguing you guys today. Let me say in advance I apologize for recapping anything you already know well, but I feel I have to get it straight for myself on paper first in order to make any suggestion to you. So let the exposition spam begin.

Beginning around 1971, Corenthal treated these children as part of his practice - they were four kids from the doomed mining town of Centralia, which I know you're quite familiar with by now. Corenthal became deeply involved with their well-being, and he and his wife decided to adopt them and take a leave of absence from their work. Evan was a boy whose mother had nicknamed him "HABIT" and seemed to be a psychotic; Corenthal makes reference to him having killed a nurse, and later admits that Evan's fixation on rabbits and the word HABIT had begun infecting his conscious mind. Vincent was a boy who had been molested by a priest by the name of Reverend Green. Green lured Vincent in with a puppy named Badger, and used a story that seems eerily similar to the plotline of "Candle Cove" to draw the kid into his clutches, all about candles and coves and pirate ships. After a year of being taken advantage of by this priest, Vincent's parents found the boy in Green's house - Green was dead, eviscerated, and Vincent simply played with a toy pirate ship and explained to them that "Man doesn't share."

The "Stephanie" (whose name was redacted originally in the letters) and "Jeffrey" in Corenthal's notes we have very little info on, I think. Corenthal describes Jeffrey as a writer of short stories who was a budding storyteller, and says the other children were all more visually oriented, specifically Stephanie and Vincent. He said Evan had a "picture diary" for which he used a camera. As Corenthal treated those kids and took them into his home, he and his wife seemed to have several good years together with their adoptive children, who he claims recovered - there's a Christmas 1976 letter on the wiki where he talks about their happy life as a family, and enclosed in one of the boxes or packages we got an antique toy soldier ornament that seems to be dated from that same time. It's there on the wiki to view if you choose to. But by 1981 - ten years later - they had all apparently "succumbed," to what or how we don't know. He blamed their specific "demons," and said the only child left - "Linnie," from New York, who was not a member of the original group of four from Centralia - was the only one he could still protect. He was going to travel from Ohio with her, and go east and leave her with people who could raise her in a way he no longer could.

So let's look at this critically for a minute. These are children who were first treated by Corenthal in 1971 when they were very young - maybe six, seven, eight years of age. Ten years later they were all killed or otherwise "taken" by their "demons," of which it seems there was a "HABIT," a "Man," and something else, something savage and beast-like. Sound familiar?

If these things existed, there are a number of possible explanations. Maybe they fixated on you guys, since you've got the same names and possibly the same rough age and background as their previous victims. Maybe that's why they're doing this to you, maybe they're "influencing" you, as they did in the last video, to take on those personalities. Like a serial killer, they're recreating certain circumstances, certain trauma, certain obsessions. They want to do to you what they did to those kids, they want to make it happen again, make you become those people. They've already interfered with your memories and perceptions more than once, which means they can get into your mind. And I know all of us HYBRIDS want to make it stop, and want to help you.

I think the important thing that we learn not only from Corenthal's story but from Steph's is that ignorance can only keep you alive and safe for so long. Corenthal and his kids lasted ten years, but it wasn't enough. Steph ran for it but it caught up with her. The only weapon, however frightening, is knowledge. So as frightening and confusing as this has to be for you guys, I think you have to be more proactive about looking specifically into Corenthal, and these children, and their story. If Jessie doesn't know much about her uncle, go to her family for help. If necessary, go see Maryann Corenthal again. Pore through the records, the letters, go looking for more. Maybe look for Linnie. Find out everything you can about these kids and their story, and maybe if you find enough discrepancies between their lives and yours you can somehow defy the plans of these things.

It doesn't matter whether you four personally have any real connection to the Corenthals or their adopted children - what matters is that these things believe you do, and are trying to make you embody them. When you guys spoke on the video in that bit you can't remember, you spoke of "Miss Maryann" and the doctor, of your lives together at the (Fairmount Children's) Home, and how you wanted to explore looking for hidden treasure, like the priest tried to convince the "other" Vincent to do. These are all direct correlations. I don't know how they're getting into your heads but you need to find out. We all want to help you guys, but you need to start helping yourselves on this particular front too. The hidden videos prove these things are only in a position of strength when they are regulating your information flow. As long as you're scared, alone, and trying to hide, these things can keep working on the 4 of you in isolation. I know how terrifying some of these incidents have been, but I really think the truth about this story is your only advantage. Look back not only at these kids, but at yourselves, and how these things could have gotten the idea that you are one and the same. And then prove them wrong.

Just out of curiosity, can you remind me how you, Vinnie and Evan met? We're all looking for that crucial connection to try and help.

Sorry for the long letter, and I'm not sure it told you anything you don't know, but we're all pulling for you. I doubt I can be as helpful as some other HYBRIDS who have a lot of tech skills and time, but I wanted to do my part.

Best,
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I tried to mention every piece of Corenthal-kid-related minutiae from the letters and documents - the priest, the soldier, the dog, their hobbies. I wanted to see if anything struck a chord. I'm in the process of drafting a very brief hello to HABIT by email to see if he will submit to an "interview," either in email or Google Talk.

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This has probably been said already but..

*spits soda all over monitor*

THE HIDDEN VIDEOS ARE IS LIKE CANDLE COVE

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qaqa wrote:
Pulling my hair out on this email thing. Now I'm turning into that boy who waits for the...boys to call. Again.

Topic: Have we suggested they go back to the house from ADITL?


I did awhile back >.>

But yes, for now, let's go with the Corenthal angle. I like the idea of all of them going to confront his widow, bring the letters, maybe get some answers.

I'm also staring to get a hunch that HABIT may react strongly to the solider. Or not. I would show him if I could figure out gmail...

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BillywithaK wrote:
I'm also staring to get a hunch that HABIT may react strongly to the solider. Or not. I would show him if I could figure out gmail...


I've been thinking the same for a few months - get him to talk about "his" mother and the soldier. At least it will provoke a reaction which might tell us something about the nature of HABIT. I think I am going to send this interview request to him, but I kind of wanted to wait til after I heard back from Jeff. OOG-wise I don't want to spam them.

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iFaux wrote:
This has probably been said already but..

*spits soda all over monitor*

THE HIDDEN VIDEOS ARE IS LIKE CANDLE COVE
Shutupshutupshutup.

EMH+Candle Cove would be horrifying.
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This waiting for an email is punishment for me procrastinating on my work, I can tell.

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so here's a thought:

has anyone confirmed that dr. corenthal is actually dead? mrs. corenthal is hardly a reliable source, methinks. and if he went missing/died, there would be a record of it somewhere. would it be worth it to have the boys check public records, obituaries, etc. to see if there is any info on his possible death?

i mean, i'm sure they did some ferreting already. i'm just wondering how much ferreting they did, you know? confronting mrs. corenthal may do this for them, but...maybe having some concrete info before they do would help?

(also, there's not much chance of getting to the house in aditl until the snow goes away.)
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ravenofroses wrote:
so here's a thought:

has anyone confirmed that dr. corenthal is actually dead? mrs. corenthal is hardly a reliable source, methinks. and if he went missing/died, there would be a record of it somewhere. would it be worth it to have the boys check public records, obituaries, etc. to see if there is any info on his possible death?

i mean, i'm sure they did some ferreting already. i'm just wondering how much ferreting they did, you know? confronting mrs. corenthal may do this for them, but...maybe having some concrete info before they do would help?

(also, there's not much chance of getting to the house in aditl until the snow goes away.)


Printing out copies of the letters and showing them to her might be enough leverage. I remember Jessie said that he moved to Florida in CCNB, they could start by making some phone calls there.

I FULLY ENDORSE THE LADS DOING MORE FERRETING.
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Didn't one of the boxes or letters say something to the effect of, "the good doctor is not so lucky as to be dead, just dealing with some old HABITS?" That sounds like a confirmation to me that he's something other than dead. Maybe a Slendyslave or a thrall of HABIT, just lurking on the fringes. I do hope they don't drag out some old dude to play boogeyman. I'd rather he remain unseen.

But I think that as HABIT has once alluded to ("YOU STILL THINK THIS IS ABOUT THE DOCTOR AND HIS DAMNED WIFE"), the Corenthals themselves are incidental. It's not about them IMO, it's about the kids and what happened to them, during a time the Corenthals were privvy to. But finding out more about their time with the Corenthals is what will help, and yes, to do that we may have to find Corenthal or they should perhaps go see his wife.

ETA: TL;DR What Luipaard said.

The sender of those boxes refers to Corenthal as someone other than the sender itself. They also have taunted us - members here - with dreams and stuff we talk about. Remember the "VII?" That was extremely similar to HABIT's online call-out to Didz and the baby. So I say who's sending these boxes to us, other than HABIT? I think it's him. He wants us to know what happened, because he doesn't think it will matter if we do. He wants to talk.

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qaqa wrote:
Didn't one of the boxes or letters say something to the effect of, "the good doctor is not so lucky as to be dead, just dealing with some old HABITS?" That sounds like a confirmation to me that he's something other than dead. Maybe a Slendyslave or a thrall of HABIT, just lurking on the fringes. I do hope they don't drag out some old dude to play boogeyman. I'd rather he remain unseen.

But I think that as HABIT has once alluded to ("YOU STILL THINK THIS IS ABOUT THE DOCTOR AND HIS DAMNED WIFE"), the Corenthals themselves are incidental. It's not about them IMO, it's about the kids and what happened to them, during a time the Corenthals were privvy to. But finding out more about their time with the Corenthals is what will help, and yes, to do that we may have to find Corenthal or they should perhaps go see his wife.

ETA: TL;DR What Luipaard said.

The sender of those boxes refers to Corenthal as someone other than the sender itself. They also have taunted us - members here - with dreams and stuff we talk about. Remember the "VII?" That was extremely similar to HABIT's online call-out to Didz and the baby. So I say who's sending these boxes to us, other than HABIT? I think it's him. He wants us to know what happened, because I doesn't think it will matter if we do. He wants to talk.


Ha, maybe HABIT is finally willing to talk about himself, but we have to play at being his therapist since he's brainwashed his old one. Smile
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Yeah.

I forgot to mention all this in my letter to Jeff. I guess I will if/when he writes back.

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