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[LOCKED] EverymanHYBRID 2011
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Ouroborus
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Obviously, we can't speculate too much on the nature of the characters. That,said I think it's really fair for us to assume that one or all of them are comprimised. Someone, who has access to the EMH drive, is using that footage. The only people who have access are the guys. I'm going to continue to assume that they are all inHABITed or Slenderpuppets.

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Lookbehindyou
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I'm not saying for sure that I believe that Fairmount! Vinnie was lying, I'm just saying you need to think about the circumstances. They were in a home for troubled kids. To get in one of those, you have to have been guilty of something pretty bad, especially back then.

Honestly, I think he was telling the truth, but I can't rule out the possiblity that he was lying is all. The original Fairmount! kids being bad in the first place would be a twist and would explain some behaviors we've seen. Also Slendy could have influened them into being bad to begin with which also lurks in the back of my mind. Just sayin

EDIT: Also, I don't believe the modern crew is bad at all. They obviously are being controlled by something, whether that's Slendy, Habit, Corenthal, the original Fairmount kids, or whatever it is.

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Luipaard
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qaqa wrote:
If they can all slip into Corenthal mode - whatever that is, however the mechanism - than they are all compromised and capable of violent action AFAIC. I don't think any of them consciously intend to do anyone harm, especially not Evan. But that doesn't count for much when you're all talking to Dr. Corenthal in the 1970s in January of 2011.

I don't think any of them are actively working with SM or HABIT or anything else. I think it's all subconscious. And I think it's all of them. I thought at one point that Jeff sent those phantom HABITHASBITME tweets. And who wrote "HABIT SEES YOU. WE ARE UNBREAKABLE." Not HABIT.

P.S. - I don't doubt Fairmount Vincent's molestation story. But I do think his passiveness is also seen in today's Vinnie.


Good points as always, qaqa.
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qaqa
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Lookbehindyou wrote:
The original Fairmount! kids being bad in the first place would be a twist and would explain some behaviors we've seen. Also Slendy could have influened them into being bad to begin with which also lurks in the back of my mind. Just sayin


I think the authorities probably assumed Vincent killed the priest himself and took action. Maybe he did. Or maybe he and Slendy did it together. Or HABIT.

I'm not sure the Fairmount children started out bad at all. But events and either external or internal forces, or both, changed them.

Even later, they weren't "bad." The Corenthals supposedly had some success rehabilitating them. They built and enjoyed a life together for what, a decade? Then there was a decline and they relapsed, or changed, or died. I think of them as victims who became predators.

The question is why were they the four survivors of the mining town. Was that intentional, were they supposed to get to the outside world? Or was SM doing mop up? And why was he in Centralia in the first place? And why did it have to burn?

Edited to add that if HABIT writes me back in the middle of the night while I am listening to "Subterraneans" on repeat I will freak out.

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Lookbehindyou
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I agree with you QaQa. That is my take as well. I'll drop the point I was trying to make, but if it were to turn out that I was onto something, I'd laugh. I'll close it with this...It was just an opinion and something I thought would have been a unique twist. I remember reading that by the time SM took his victims, they WANTED to go with him, like they were now on the dark side so to speak.

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qaqa
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Lookbehindyou wrote:
I agree with you QaQa. That is my take as well. I'll drop the point I was trying to make, but if it were to turn out that I was onto something, I'd laugh. I'll close it with this...It was just an opinion and something I thought would have been a unique twist. I remember reading that by the time SM took his victims, they WANTED to go with him, like they were now on the dark side so to speak.


Yeah. I think that's just what they did when they "succumbed." In 1981. Ten years after Corenthal met them at age...five? six? at the earliest. Just saying.

They also seemed to not get the big deal in Hidden Videos. "We were just playing a game! He got us there in an instant!" To them it was all just good fun.

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FWIW, I just looked up the weather for NJ last week... cloudy, fucktons of snow. Whenever they ended up after they went through the crawlspace, it sure as HELL wasn't late January. Christ.

(oh god it's 2 a.m. I have to be awake for work in 5 hours aaggghhh)
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Fortunately I make my own work hours, but that's not going to be a comfort when I'm still writing copy at 9 AM because if I sleep I'll miss my deadline.

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qaqa wrote:
Fortunately I make my own work hours, but that's not going to be a comfort when I'm still writing copy at 9 AM because if I sleep I'll miss my deadline.


You should work then, dear. Life > EMH. <3

I'm ready to go to bed myself. Gnight everyone!
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Luipaard wrote:

I'm ready to go to bed myself. Gnight everyone!

That's probably a good idea....

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Rhiannon wrote:
FWIW, I just looked up the weather for NJ last week... cloudy, fucktons of snow. Whenever they ended up after they went through the crawlspace, it sure as HELL wasn't late January. Christ.

Another point in favor of "This guys sending their videos from future".

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Ouroborus
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Okay. Random thoughts, points because I'm scatterbrained and can't be bothered to be organized.

- The cut clip of them flashing back to whatever video of them kicking down the door. I assume Jeff didn't add this.

- As far as the weather in mid-January, I don't think we can expect them to account for weather. They're pretty thorough, but I'm not going to call time travel just yet.

-It makes me feel so much fucking better that there wasn't a hole(in all reality, ever a hole) in the closet, because it was one of the things that was driving me fucking crazy about the house's layout. There wasn't room for a crawlspace.

- When did Evan last wear that Bioshock shirt?

-Also, the 77of76 didn't come active until after the events of this latest video. I don't know if this is evidence of time travel.

-Speaking of 77of76, I guess we can see why they're pissed.


edit- Assuming the "something that cleared a hole" thing is HABIT that could explain how the dude travels. Tube Technology, yo.

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awakeasaurusrex
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OK, new theory time:

- We are not dealing with a parallel universe with parallel HYBRIDs. Everything we see the HYBRIDs do in every canon video is something that has either happened or is going to happened, because time is getting wonky.

- What has been happening over the whole series is that in the HYBRIDs' local area the fabric of our own world has become frayed. Holes have appeared through which you can travel from one place to another; one such hole leads from Alex's room to the boiler room in the park.

- These holes are not stable: they can appear and disappear. It is possible that they appear or disappear under some power's control, it's possible it happens at randomly. Either way, you can't consistently expect them to be there all the time.

- Conservation of mass for our own universe is in effect. If you lose something inside a wormhole, it will make its way back to our world somehow. Vinnie's phone was in Alex's closet because Vinnie will presumably lost it (or will lose it?) at some point in one of the holes. Maybe he dropped it on the Day In the Life expedition, maybe not.

- There are alternate dimensions and all that. But we aren't dealing with full on parallel universes here so much as different planes of existence (to use a term I hope a few of you will be familiar with from D&D). The other dimensions aren't perfect copies of our world with a few things tweaked - they're places imperfect pocket realities (like the Ark, possibly), or the realm of the dead, or Hell, or the outer darkness where the Great Old Ones lurk, or whatever.

- As a result of the fraying of the fabric of our world, things from the otherworld can creep through. Slendy's led the charge, but there are others. The spirits of the Corenthal children have crept through and are attempting to possess the HYBRIDs. The Rake emerged from whatever slimy pit of Hell it calls home in order to hunt in our world. The roving spirit of HABIT is able to manifest more openly than usual. There may be more horrors from outside that the characters have yet to encounter.

- As well as space being frayed, time has become frayed as well. Full on time-travel might not be possible; I don't honestly think that the HYBRIDS are the time-shifted Corenthal kids becuase then Corenthal would have been talking about the kids disappearing, not dying. But what is possible is for information, especially information held on electronic devices and the like, to slip forward or backward in time. Hence the hidden videos and the like.

- If there is any power in control of the holes, it's Slendy himself - witness how he was able to teleport the boys when they drove their car at him.

- It is possible, in fact, that the holes have been appearing because of Slendy showing up - by attracting his attention, the HYBRIDS have brought his presence into their area, and that's caused the fabric of our world to become wormhole-ridden in the first place. Possibly it's a conscious thing Slendy does, possibly it's just a side-effect of his presence.

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Corenthal never said the children died. He said they succumbed. And he doesn't necessarily know what happened to them after that. We don't even know what happened to him.

I think a lot of your theories are spot on re: alternate dimensions which Slendy likely hails from, but I'm not convinced that all the shifting isn't partly a result of the kids (or rather, teens by '81) being shifted through time as well. They may be their own contaminant, temporally-speaking.

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qaqa wrote:
Corenthal never said the children died. He said they succumbed. And he doesn't necessarily know what happened to them after that. We don't even know what happened to him.
Well when you put it that way... maybe the Mining Town Four originally had a "hole" experience back in the disaster? Perhaps they got lost in the other realms for a while and met all sorts of wonderful new friends, like Slendy and Captain HABIT and the like?

Maybe the bizarre otherworlds the holes offer access to are kind of like the lands of faerie in folklore - they're incredibly perilous, but at the same time there's this mystical allure to them which keeps calling people back. The "succumbing" could have been to the temptation to follow their imaginary friends to fairyland. Such stories often have the characters return to the mortal world after mere days in Faerie only to find that years have passed, and with fuzzy or entirely absent memories.

Perhaps Slendy and the Rake are all trying to take the HYBRIDS back.

Perhaps the series could really be called everymanCHANGELING.

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