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Pasdio
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lunaticfish wrote:
I'm starting to really wonder about Corenthal's chest of the childrens' belongings.


how does corenthal have a whole chest if he's just a doctor?

He ended up adopting the children...and "had" (I wouldn't say that's the right word, but whatever) them for about a decade.

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How about:
4) Do you really think it's a good idea to let Alex sleep in his room?

The idea of having a hole magically appearing and then disappearing sends up an automatic flag for me. BUTMAYBETHAT'SJUSTME
But it looks all nice and blue in there now. It must be safe.

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qaqa wrote:
I'd like to know Vinnie's take on how his phone got in there during Rakeparty '10 (a.k.a. "Alex"). It may be as simple as "I dunno" but I can't recall if we've heard him speak about it. And I think we need to.

Did the events of 77 - them lost, wandering near the big tree - happen during their same outing in Taking It Back, do they remember them, and if so did they just cut that from the edit for YouTube?

What is that house and the surrounding series of buildings/wrecks at Baldpate? What are those? Old park structures or something?

Why not go stay with Evan or Vinnie or at a damn motel? Are their parents an issue?

I think Vince made a comment about him misplacing his phone earlier that week...
I'd check myself, but the school computers block youtube for some annoying reason.

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Pasdio wrote:
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I'd like to know Vinnie's take on how his phone got in there during Rakeparty '10 (a.k.a. "Alex"). It may be as simple as "I dunno" but I can't recall if we've heard him speak about it. And I think we need to.

Did the events of 77 - them lost, wandering near the big tree - happen during their same outing in Taking It Back, do they remember them, and if so did they just cut that from the edit for YouTube?

What is that house and the surrounding series of buildings/wrecks at Baldpate? What are those? Old park structures or something?

Why not go stay with Evan or Vinnie or at a damn motel? Are their parents an issue?

I think Vince made a comment about him misplacing his phone earlier that week...
I'd check myself, but the school computers block youtube for some annoying reason.


Yeah, he said that he probably just left it there the last time he was over, or something to that effect

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qaqa wrote:
I'd like to know Vinnie's take on how his phone got in there during Rakeparty '10 (a.k.a. "Alex"). It may be as simple as "I dunno" but I can't recall if we've heard him speak about it. And I think we need to.

Did the events of 77 - them lost, wandering near the big tree - happen during their same outing in Taking It Back, do they remember them, and if so did they just cut that from the edit for YouTube?

What is that house and the surrounding series of buildings/wrecks at Baldpate? What are those? Old park structures or something?

Why not go stay with Evan or Vinnie or at a damn motel? Are their parents an issue?


1. They did cover this. Vince said he lost it a few days prior to them finding it in the closet, which he said wasn't unusual-- they're at each other's houses all the time, so him leaving his phone at Jeff's isn't weird.

2. They don't remember that part, no. Jeff seems to be of the opinion that it took place during the same time, as they're wearing the same clothes (down to the very identifiable helmet Alex is sporting).

3. Those are some of the abandoned houses they explored during ADitL. I believe they were rolling down a hill near the large white house? I'd have to re-watch it to be sure.

4. Because they're idiots. Seriously. I'd have packed my shit and moved into somewhere highly defensible by now, but they're stubborn. If you're reading this, guys, I love you, but for the love of little green apples GET OUT OF THE GODDAMN HOUSE.
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qaqa wrote:
I'd like to know Vinnie's take on how his phone got in there during Rakeparty '10 (a.k.a. "Alex"). It may be as simple as "I dunno" but I can't recall if we've heard him speak about it. And I think we need to.

Did the events of 77 - them lost, wandering near the big tree - happen during their same outing in Taking It Back, do they remember them, and if so did they just cut that from the edit for YouTube?

What is that house and the surrounding series of buildings/wrecks at Baldpate? What are those? Old park structures or something?

Why not go stay with Evan or Vinnie or at a damn motel? Are their parents an issue?


1. They did cover this. Vince said he lost it a few days prior to them finding it in the closet, which he said wasn't unusual-- they're at each other's houses all the time, so him leaving his phone at Jeff's isn't weird.

2. They don't remember that part, no. Jeff seems to be of the opinion that it took place during the same time, as they're wearing the same clothes (down to the very identifiable helmet Alex is sporting).

3. Those are some of the abandoned houses they explored during ADitL. I believe they were rolling down a hill near the large white house? I'd have to re-watch it to be sure.

4. Because they're idiots. Seriously. I'd have packed my shit and moved into somewhere highly defensible by now, but they're stubborn. If you're reading this, guys, I love you, but for the love of little green apples GET OUT OF THE GODDAMN HOUSE.


This actually ties in with Jeff's little monologue at the beginning of last week; he insists that they cannot live in fear of the second story.

There's also the fact that their dead parents gives them an emotional attachment to the house. Coupled with the facts that Alex is damaged and Jeff is stubborn as all fuck, I can see why they wouldn't want to leave.

Doesn't make it any less dumb though.
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 		So between the time Vinnie was called and they got home, all that extradimensional shit probably happened? Sirens, etc? And they don't remember it? But they didn't account for that at all in the video. Jeff's description says "Vin came and picked us up," badabing badaboom nothing else. So even he only seems to half-realize this at times. On twitter Jeff tells us he now knows where the 77 footage comes from and when. On the video description he merely says "and then Vinnie picked up." Either Jeff's writing style is chronically elliptical or IG Jeff is once again deliberately dropping some mental connections. But that's nothing new so what the fuck am I talking about, nothing.

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qaqa wrote:
So between the time Vinnie was called and they got home, all that extradimensional shit probably happened? Sirens, etc? And they don't remember it? But they didn't account for that at all in the video. Jeff's description says "Vin came and picked us up," badabing badaboom nothing else. So even he only seems to half-realize this at times. On twitter Jeff tells us he now knows where the 77 footage comes from and when. On the video description he merely says "and then Vinnie picked up." Either Jeff's writing style is chronically elliptical or IG Jeff is once again deliberately dropping some mental connections. But that's nothing new so what the fuck am I talking about, nothing.


I think the reasoning might also be, "I already told everybody this on Twitter, I don't need to mention it in the video description." So there's that.
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 		Well, it's confusing and it's not the first time. grumpy

I miss Evan's long hair. Topic: We need to find out exactly what those structures near Baldpate were. I thought they were actual municipal buildings of some sort, not just "old houses."

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Luipaard wrote:
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qaqa wrote:


Why not go stay with Evan or Vinnie or at a damn motel? Are their parents an issue?



4. Because they're idiots. Seriously. I'd have packed my shit and moved into somewhere highly defensible by now, but they're stubborn. If you're reading this, guys, I love you, but for the love of little green apples GET OUT OF THE GODDAMN HOUSE.


This actually ties in with Jeff's little monologue at the beginning of last week; he insists that they cannot live in fear of the second story.

There's also the fact that their dead parents gives them an emotional attachment to the house. Coupled with the facts that Alex is damaged and Jeff is stubborn as all fuck, I can see why they wouldn't want to leave.

Doesn't make it any less dumb though.


Oh, I fully understand their reasons. But, yeah, as you say, still kinda dumb. The sort of sad, stubborn dumb that makes you want to give them a hug, but still: dumb.

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qaqa wrote:
So between the time Vinnie was called and they got home, all that extradimensional shit probably happened? Sirens, etc? And they don't remember it? But they didn't account for that at all in the video. Jeff's description says "Vin came and picked us up," badabing badaboom nothing else. So even he only seems to half-realize this at times. On twitter Jeff tells us he now knows where the 77 footage comes from and when. On the video description he merely says "and then Vinnie picked up." Either Jeff's writing style is chronically elliptical or IG Jeff is once again deliberately dropping some mental connections. But that's nothing new so what the fuck am I talking about, nothing.


I think the reasoning might also be, "I already told everybody this on Twitter, I don't need to mention it in the video description." So there's that.


Yeah, I don't think that Jeff is deliberately flaking out, he's just trying not to be repetitive. Because honestly, if you're following EMH at this point and you're not AT LEAST watching the twitter in addition to the YT channel, you deserve your confusion.

Not to say that the rest of us aren't confused. We're just confused differently.
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 		No, maybe I'm just slow.

I am not in Jersey but I'm trying to look into the history of Baldpate/Kusar(?) Mountain and that park. Maybe it will tell us something. These houses and that area are obviously important.

Ooookay. For starters, maybe we should all take a look at some of the pix on this page. I'll quote some of the text. I've bolded some stuff that I find particularly notable re: these houses. I apologize if I'm rehashing old research. Also, TL;DR.

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Bald Pate Mountain

While both Washington Crossing Park and the Howell Living History Farm illuminate and preserve the area's past, a new Mercer County park located between them shrouds most of its historical mysteries...

Bald Pate Mountain's peak is Mercer County's highest point, about 470 feet above sea level. On clear days Philadelphia is within sight, as is the Delaware River below. The park contains more than a thousand acres, and, although some sections are still in the formative process, over ten miles of unpaved trails, marked and unmarked, are currently open for hikers, bikers, equestrians, and hunters during the season. While some of the trails, such as the mountaintop Ridge Trail are reasonably level, many others are sometimes steep. A few trails have picturesque steep stone steps that require some degree of caution to negotiate. Within the park, birdwatchers may find a large number of neotropical migratory songbirds. Bald Pate is possibly the only location in Mercer County with breeding pairs of Kentucky hooded and worming-eating warblers.

The origin of Bald Pate's name is one of the park's mysteries. Until the mid-20th century, the mountain was known locally as Kuser Mountain, named for the family who owned it for many decades. In Henry C. Beck's 1939 book Fare to Midlands, reference is made to the top of the mountain having been cleared by one of the Kusers, perhaps for a landing strip. Possibly the bare mountaintop suggested the more recent name of Bald Pate. At the summit, the Kuser estate, called "Strawberry Hill", included a main house, lodge, and various outbuildings. For a few years in the early 1900s the family established a game farm on the mountain, raising pheasants with the assistance of an experienced gamekeeper and other local workers. In 1986 the family sold the property to Trap Rock Industries, and in 1998 Bald Pate Mountain was acquired from TPI by Mercer County.


Two large parking areas have been constructed in the park, one at the base of the mountain on Fiddlers Creek Road alongside Kuser's former lane to the top...

Although Bald Pate Preserve's present day trails pass through woods that seem to have always been there, that was not always the case, especially in the eastern portion of the park, known for many years as Honey Hollow. If Henry C. Beck had not explored Honey Hollow in the 1930s, talked to the "locals", and then recorded his adventures in Fare To Midlands, there is little chance that anyone today would have any knowledge of the settlement that once existed here and up the sides of Bald Pate. A check of U.S. Census records shows that well over a dozen families lived in the area for many decades, some for two or three generations. Old newspaper articles and ads give scant hints of their lives, both socially and in business. Among the trees, protected by the thorny multiflora roses that have taken over as the predominant undergrowth, are remnants of a fairly large settlement of long forgotten farmersÉ and maybe even a bootlegger or two.

The most obvious vestiges of the former inhabitants and their labors are the prominent stone rows that run along, and sometimes cut across, the park trails. Before early farmers could plow and seed the earth they first needed to clear this very rocky hillside to make usable fields. Removing rocks was an ongoing process, as frost heaving brought a new crop to the surface each winter. Each year, the farmers dumped the rocks along the edges of their fields, defining their properties' boundaries and the lanes that ran from one farm to another.

Also scattered throughout the area are rock caches, some of them large enough and stacked neatly enough to suggest that you are looking at the ruins of a house; or maybe ancient waypoint markers for alien invaders. These collections however, like hundreds of others found throughout the northeastern U.S., were simply intended to be used for future construction of homes and barns; structures that never came to be. As the fields were abandoned and natural progression took over, corn, hay, and wheat were replaced by cedars, and then maples, elms, and other hardwoods that rise above the prickly invasion of the multiflora rose.

Scattered throughout, begging to be discovered, are the remains of more than a dozen structures, mainly ruins of houses, barns, and springhouses and the faint old lanes that once connected them. All that remain of the old houses, probably constructed by local stonemasons or even the farmers themselves, are foundations and cellar holes, or nondescript heaps of rocks where they tumbled.

Another mystery is reflected in the name of one of the park's trails, the Copper Hill Trail. Local legend hints at the existence of a long-lost copper mine, its workings attributed—probably incorrectly—to the labors of Indians. Somewhere here on the mountain the mine (excuse me OMFG A MINE) does, or did, exist. Beck visited the small mine, and in his book included a photo of its entrance.

Along the Copper Hill Trail, despite having an uncanny knack of remaining hidden in plain sight a few feet off the trail, hikers and bikers suddenly notice a fireplace and chimney rising in the woods. But who has taken the time to notice the strange construction of the adjacent cellar hole? Could it be that bootleggers really did change this place to make illicit Prohibition products as claimed by Beck?

Or way off the established trails, who built that old springhouse that has "DHP Aug 1845" inscribed in its mortar? The springhouse is obvious as is the large ruined cellar hole beside it, but where was the barn? Nature's progression is bent on concealing forever all that once existed here, as it has done in the rest of the Hollow.

Here at Bald Pate questions arise that beg to be answered. Who were those former inhabitants of Honey Hollow? How many of them were here? Why did they leave? What happened to their homes? Possibly, as time goes by, more answers will surface but for now, as you use the trails of Bald Pate, remember that this wasn't always "just woods."


I think I'm going to look into Honey Hollow and the Kuser family.

ETA: Okay, from a LJ group called abandonedplaces Embarassed we have this about the Kuser houses. Not much but worth a look. I'll keep poking around.

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 		Excellent research! (I wish I could contribute something as well...)
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 		Hey, my only tool is Google and no life .

EDITED: I'm not sure if any of the abandoned buildings here match up to anything we've seen. Someone here would know better than me. Not that it gets us anywhere because I'm having a hard time digging up anything terribly specific on all these abandoned homes and structures. It's like an entire abandoned dead zone, a dead town in the middle of however many acres...which is not totally dissimilar to...yeah.

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 		Nice! ::high-fives qaqa::

And oh, abandonedplaces! Great comm, so long as you stay out of the comment threads and anything the mod posts. The drama llamas are myriad in that place, but if you can ignore that and look at the pretty pictures, it's awesome. I recognize some of the pictures there as things that the EMH gang visited, either during ADitL or Last Week.

I was sort of hoping some kind of Ohio connection might shake out in the research, something that might tie the site to Fairmount. Oh well. Maybe the only connection is the physics-shattering portals crossing time and space.

EDIT IN RESPONSE TO EDIT: Okay, I just looked through those photos you linked, qaqa, and I definitely recognize some of the places. This one in particular. From one of the hidden videos, someone is stomping and swaying down that porch area.
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