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[SPEC] Why did Jay all-of-a-sudden lose his memory?
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TomCat
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[SPEC] Why did Jay all-of-a-sudden lose his memory?

I apologize if this has been brought up or answered before, or if it's a simple question to answer, but it's something that has been bothering me since the start of Season 2. Why after 7 months did Jay all-of-a-sudden lose his memory of those last 7 months? Was it that Jay was continuing his adventures and then went to bed one night, only to wake up the next morning to find that he couldn't remember anything of the past 7 months? Someone pointed to the fact that him forgetting to take the pills the night before may have caused his ability to recall past events to fade, but that would mean that Jessica also coincidentally neglected to take her pills on the exact same night, because they both woke up the next day having no idea why they were at the hotel.

This has been a question on my mind for quite some time. I'd be interested to see what others think about this.

PostPosted: Sun Jan 30, 2011 1:05 am
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Because it was convenient for the film crew?

Ingame, though? Your guess is as good as ours.

I'm more concerned with why he suddenly regains memory. I kinda think that's the more interesting question here.

Control has been taken away from You -> 7 months of pause and memory loss -> twitterjack indicate, at least for me, close proximity to TTA and (if allied) the Operator.

Maybe Slendy is becoming hungry again? Maybe he needs people to take interest again so that he may stalk them...?

~Sylv

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TomCat wrote:
Why after 7 months did Jay all-of-a-sudden lose his memory of those last 7 months? Was it that Jay was continuing his adventures and then went to bed one night, only to wake up the next morning to find that he couldn't remember anything of the past 7 months? Someone pointed to the fact that him forgetting to take the pills the night before may have caused his ability to recall past events to fade, but that would mean that Jessica also coincidentally neglected to take her pills on the exact same night, because they both woke up the next day having no idea why they were at the hotel.


I thought we determined that he wasn't taking any pills. Tim is on a prescription of some sort, but J has ibuprofen. They're not the same pills Tim takes. They even look different, like actual ibuprofen.

As to why he suddenly forgot, only time will tell. Something that happened to him during that seven months made him lose his memory. The video on J's hard drive shows that there was an encounter with the operator, and that encounter, or multiple encounters with the operator could have resulted in the memory loss. There is also some precedent with Alex forgetting anything he didn't videotape. I think we'll see more about what happened during those seven months on the tapes from the safe when J starts posting them.

Sylvine wrote:
Because it was convenient for the film crew?


Actually, they said other breaks have been for oog reasons, but the 7 month break was planned and does have plot significance.

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LichFox wrote:

Actually, they said other breaks have been for oog reasons, but the 7 month break was planned and does have plot significance.


Well obviously it would have to, because not even the MH crew can slip a 7-month-hiatus past us without a plot-related explaination and hope to maintain any kind of immersion Wink

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Sylvine wrote:
I'm more concerned with why he suddenly regains memory. I kinda think that's the more interesting question here.

Actually, that was the question that was burning on my mind more than the one I actually asked. I guess I was posting too late at night to articulate my thoughts properly. Embarassed

I, too, am interested to find out why he was able to regain his memory at this point in time. I suppose we'll find out as events unfold and as we see some footage from those tapes Jay found (if those tapes are what we think they are...).

LichFox wrote:
I thought we determined that he wasn't taking any pills. Tim is on a prescription of some sort, but J has ibuprofen. They're not the same pills Tim takes. They even look different, like actual ibuprofen.

That's what I originally assumed, too. But when I read the first post of the topic I linked to above, it made me reevaluate my stance. But I think it's fairly obvious that the pills Jay had were not what he had found in "the house".

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LichFox wrote:

Actually, they said other breaks have been for oog reasons, but the 7 month break was planned and does have plot significance.



when was that stated?

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While doing some research into the uses of ibuprofen I found that it can be used to treat headaches brought on by electroshock therapy. Furthermore, electroshock therapy has been known to erase chunks of people's memory. Now, I don't think J visited any asylums that practice thus treatment, but let's look at a couple of things:

1) The Operator and Masky seem to effect electronics with their presence.

2) Furthermore, people that come into contact with them have memory loss among other symptoms.

3) When J woke up filming the tube TV in his room was acting awfully strange. I'm guessing something broke the electron gun inside it or fried the tube. A strong electric surge could do this. However, no other electronic devices were damaged.

Now here's what's weird, if we work with what I put down here: The Ibuprofen in J's possession had no safety seal, meaning a few of the pills had probably already been taken. Did he willingly go under the memory wipe and take the pills in preparation for it or did the person who zapped him administer the medication to ease his pain?

If J gave himself the pills he wanted to forget. If someone gave him the pills they didn't want him to suffer.

Something else: Jessica complained of headaches. Did anyone give her some ibuprofen or did she have any? If not, why J and not Jessica?

It's been said the only way to escape The Operator is to forget it exists and to not think about it. If this is true I'm thinking Masky is someone who is trying to help by making people forget. I mean, when has Masky ever done something truly harmful, even when te opportunity presented itself? J freaked out in 16(?) when Masky charged him and Masky clearly had the drop on J in his hotel room. Instead of a little smack he could've smashed J's head in with a brick or something. And let's not forget the video of Masky perching on J's chest of drawers and then carrying J out of his room.

Yeah. If Masky wanted to hurt or stop J he's had plenty of opportunities.

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Gale
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This is a wild guess I have of how Jay lost his memory for seven months.

He went to the location with the return address from the end of season one, may have went to Alex's house, encountered Operator or Masky and in a state of panic, runs away only to trip and fall down on the flight of stairs and send him in a seven month coma/memory loss of all time.

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I don't necessarily believe this, but with the possibility of time travel Jay could have "skipped" over most of those seven months. The only indication that he didn't is the hotel staff saying he checked in, but they are somewhat suspicious being the staff of the weird deserted hotel. Or if you like the theory that Masky is Jay from the future he could have checked him in.

But, as I said, I'm not committed to that theory. It's a touch convoluted, and we don't really have any evidence for time travel yet.

I'm hoping the tapes show the missing seven months, whatever was going on then.

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