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[VIDEO] Entry #34
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Pepz
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Radiolab Hope wrote:
The metal sheet was not pushed over by a gust of wind. If it had been, the thing that was protruding up from behind the sheet when it was upright would still be visible somewhere. It can't have leaped out of the window by itself.


A metal sheet doesn't need anything to protrude from behind to be in a non-plain sheet way (if that makes sense Smile ) It will stay in any weird shape it's forcibly made subject to.

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Rawkz0rz
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morscata12 wrote:
Well, this entry explains his Tweet "This feels all too familiar." He's watching footage that he took, and he's recognizing it. So he wasn't memory wiped 100% (and he wasn't a zombie), it's just blocked somehow. And those tapes were left in his room to help him recover that lost time (otherwise the tapes would have been destroyed, right?).

Now look back at Entry 28, when Jessica said Jay's name "Just sounds familar, I don't know." The word "familiar" was definitely reused for a reason. She was with Jay during those seven months, and their activity is probably on the tapes.


When he said that it all felt familiar I assumed he meant sitting and watching through hours of mostly useless footage, although it definitely can be interpreted either way.

If he was with Jessica for some of that time, it would make sense that they checked into the hotel together, with joining rooms. When you're travelling with someone usually you stick together like that. From another perspective, assuming they both were being terrorized, them sticking together would make it easier on whoever the antagonist is (whether its Masky, the Operator, both, or someone we haven't seen yet), as it's a lot more convenient to terrorize two people when they're together.

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This has been hinted at but not actually formally mentioned.

Jay: So... it's April 21st"

Background: trees without leaves. dead grass. etc.

lol'd a bit at that.

So I'm a little confused by his thinking though. From Jay's pov:

"alright. I got this return address. I'm gonna go off the grid and see what happens."

So he goes to the return address, finds nothing. at this point he doesn't really have any other leads. i'm guessing something catastrophic had to have happened real soon or else he'd have just tweeted "found nothing... guess it's all over! LOL."

P.S. i think i'm going to be very, very disappointed if ToTheArk doesn't upload something just like "exit", with him just filming jay walking into the house.

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shoeler wrote:

P.S. i think i'm going to be very, very disappointed if ToTheArk doesn't upload something just like "exit", with him just filming jay walking into the house.


Maybe that's why he did that little turn at the beginning. To make sure no one was behind him. Jay was like, "That masked man and his earth magic isn't going to sneak up on me THIS time."

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The plastic bag over the window.

When we first see it, it looks like it's sucked tight to the window by the air pressure or what have you.

When Jay goes in and turns around, then looks back, it looks like it's been pulled out through the window. (the fact that he snaps the camera to look at it when that happens kind of makes me wonder, could be just him jumpy)

Part of me just thinks this could happen naturally, though when you look at it the second time it kind of looks bunched up like it was grabbed. I know it was hanging free, someone with a better physics background than me could probably discredit this.

Also pretty sure there were some, or at least something close to the Operator symbol on the wall.

mostly uneventful, grasping at some straws.

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Kjax8 wrote:
The plastic bag over the window.

When we first see it, it looks like it's sucked tight to the window by the air pressure or what have you.

When Jay goes in and turns around, then looks back, it looks like it's been pulled out through the window. (the fact that he snaps the camera to look at it when that happens kind of makes me wonder, could be just him jumpy)

Part of me just thinks this could happen naturally, though when you look at it the second time it kind of looks bunched up like it was grabbed. I know it was hanging free, someone with a better physics background than me could probably discredit this.

Also pretty sure there were some, or at least something close to the Operator symbol on the wall.

mostly uneventful, grasping at some straws.


I think, in-game, it was supposed to just be the wind. Same with the metal sheet falling. Out-of-game, someone was outside of the house and they pulled the bag through and knocked the sheet over. My opinion, at least.

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ArkyMcArkArk
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Salty wrote:

I think, in-game, it was supposed to just be the wind. Same with the metal sheet falling. Out-of-game, someone was outside of the house and they pulled the bag through and knocked the sheet over. My opinion, at least.


Seconded, unless we get a TTA video within the next few days from the perspective of someone outside the house, pushing on the sheets and whatnot, I think we can assume wind.

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For some reason I get the feeling that there won't be anymore TTA videos, at least not for awhile. I hope I'm wrong, though.

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the fact that the building is burnt and that there's some book shelves in the room reminds me of the original slenderman legend about the 'stirling city library blaze'.
haha. just a thought though.

JKatkina wrote:
Attached are a bunch of screenies of graffiti. I personally couldn't spot anything of immediate relevance, but I thought I'd toss them out to y'all. The most interesting thing appears to be the graffiti that says either "there" or "here" on the outside wall, though if it's relevant, it's oblique at best.

http://www.kbrechtel.com/2011/mh/34/5.png

number 5 here looks like it says 'wtf', which was most likely already there before they filmed this entry.

JohnArgo wrote:
For some reason I get the feeling that there won't be anymore TTA videos, at least not for awhile. I hope I'm wrong, though.

and i agree with you. somehow i feel tta's going to remain dormant for a little while longer to build more suspense.

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ArkyMcArkArk wrote:
Salty wrote:

I think, in-game, it was supposed to just be the wind. Same with the metal sheet falling. Out-of-game, someone was outside of the house and they pulled the bag through and knocked the sheet over. My opinion, at least.


Seconded, unless we get a TTA video within the next few days from the perspective of someone outside the house, pushing on the sheets and whatnot, I think we can assume wind.


This is exactly what I was thinking while watching this entry. But it would be odd to return with footage from almost a year ago. But I think there's something more to that sheet falling over.


This series has done a really good job on making me paranoid. I was watching the entry like a hawk, and the bang scared the crap out of me.

The first time I watched it, I thought the garbage bag in the window was a window blind, and somebody was lifting it from the outside.

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I'm so tardy to the party!! Dang Internet connection :/
ok, I agree, this entry was a little underwhelming after our 3 week wait, but I think that it is setting up the season for future shenanigans!!!

Also (please pardon me if this was already speculated on) I had a thought about the grafitti on the building. The first thing we got during our 7 months-o-darkness was a twitpic of a drawing. It was mentioned that it looked somewhat like a picture of grafitti at night. Perhaps we'll see that symbol on the house the next time we see it??? Unlikely, but maybe plausible?!?
FEEDBACK PLEASE!!

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After re-watching the video, I noticed slight visual tearing at about 3:40 in the middle 'til about 3:50 or so.

It was the most noticeable to me at 3:46 when he was turning in the dark room. Maybe it's just my computer with the video or whatever. Someone else confirm or debunk, please?

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iSweet wrote:
After re-watching the video, I noticed slight visual tearing at about 3:40 in the middle 'til about 3:40 or so.

It was the most noticeable to me at 3:46 when he was turning in the dark room. Maybe it's just my computer with the video or whatever. Someone else confirm or debunk, please?


99% sure that's just you.

semifamous13 wrote:
Also (please pardon me if this was already speculated on) I had a thought about the grafitti on the building. The first thing we got during our 7 months-o-darkness was a twitpic of a drawing. It was mentioned that it looked somewhat like a picture of grafitti at night. Perhaps we'll see that symbol on the house the next time we see it??? Unlikely, but maybe plausible?!?
FEEDBACK PLEASE!!


definite possibility. though they spent little to no time really focusing on the graffiti in the house. i'm thinkin' coincidence.

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twinkats
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I went through Entry 34 frame by frame, mostly as I was getting a bit annoyed with the scattered trump of information and conclusion jumping everyone is doing. While I'm not a common poster on the forums here, and only just recently built me an account back during trail-guy entry, I have been a common lurker. I understand that with Marble Hornets and thoeires you have to sometimes make an assumption off of what is seen.

Incidentally I also subscribe to the idea that you also then have to make the assumption that you're 100% wrong and its something else unless there is concrete fact, of which we have almost none.

Still there are some facts I feel should be noted, some that others have noticed or commented about. (sort of summarization/what I saw by the forth runthrough)

1: Jay says he's going to the address, lists us the date (a few days after he recieved that tape in the mail back in Season 1), and then continues rambling before realizing he's still talking.
-Amusing note the trees are dead and its April. Don't you just love filming during the wrong season your video was supposed to be in?
-More serious note: you can take the dead trees as ingame which then leads to the question of why the trees are dead; did Jay somehow warp seasons or not? Not likely. Can the Operator effect the livelihood of the trees? Probably not that either. Could this foresty area actually be truly dead? Its possible, as some trees don't recover come springtime after winter, however still not likely.
Most likely is this was a sad production error due to filming during the wrong season. Understandable and not to be held against the MH crew.

2: Jay is walking away from the building, he turns around and stares back up at the building. He checks the building out.

While this could have been a simple issue due to retake I doubt it. I definitely think the MH crew did this deliberately. I also have a few theories on why.

In a previous post someone noted the lack of car and lack of road. Jay is walking away from the building. There is no address seen here, therefore it could be concluded this is not the return-to-sender address. This building does not even look like a house.

Theory A: we're on Return-to-sender address' property. Jay decided to take a look around and this was the only footage he found interesting in his walk down memory lane. Judging by the building itself most likely Retrn-to-sender address' property is some sort of community area, a park, or something similar. This just happens to be one abandoned peice of architecture on the property.

Theory B: Jay had not previous explored this house. He had instead just left the return-to-sender address' property, walked out the door, was checking his camera, looked up, and found the road, familiar landmarks, and his car missing. He turns around and notes a new building. He explores. He leaves to find his car.

I find this the least like scenario, but still just as likely as anything. Most probably Jay recognizes the landscape as close to return-to-sender's address, or even on return-to-sender's property. That could explain the lack of panic if this were the case. OR Jay could sadly be used to accidentally warping through doors by this point, doubtful, but he could. OR he could be just too confused or shocked to panic instead. Any number of things could forestall panic where panic is due.

Incidentally I like Theory B, despite it's unlikelihood.

Theory C: The footage from return-to-sender's address has been deleted from the tape, and instead this was in its place. Meaning someone effed up and put things out of order to confuse us.

Yippe.

Out of these three theories Theory A is most likely.

Moving past interesting notes about the general area and lack of certain needs for traveling.....

Inside the building.

Obviously there is grafitti everywhere. No denying that. However some of the grafitti is interesting and just because it MAY NOT have been specifically done by the MH crew (as in all of it, not just part of it) does not mean it should be ignored. Take note of the grafitti around the plastic tarp in the window.

Don't those look interest? Appears like tentacles, amirite? Now who do we know may/may not have tentacles? MH hasn't exactly given as a yes or no as to that front of the character, after all. I feel, personally, for that reason that the grafitti should not be ignored.

The wet footsteps, as noted before, could have meant that someone during or directly after rainfall was in the house. This person could be Jay, or most likely WAS NOT Jay. I say WAS NOT because he goes to step on the board, and steps back, pointing the camera SPECIFICALLY on that board with the footsteps. I don't take that as coincidence.

The plastic tarp/bag as Jay steps into the building is tugged back, airtight, against the window. Judging by how mild the wind appears to be Jay probably didn't expect the bag to be sucked through the window. Knowing how aircurrents and windstrength can shift it is most likely that it was the wind that sucked the bag through. However Jay DID turn back towards the bag directly after it was tugged through.

Obviously it surprised him. That should tell us that Jay is a bit jumpy, as he very well damn should be!

Wind could most probably easily knock over that flimsy metal folding table. At least that's what that metal slab looks like. We have one of those in our basement. It's a card table, and it IS flimsy. Especially when balanced up like that. A simple burst of air could easily knock it over. Considering how rusted the thing looks I don't doubt it.

Therefore I'm holding off on the it was pushed theory, although that is just as likely as the wind.

I wanted to touch on the autofocus of the camera, briefly, too. I don't quite know if you all consider that failing of the auto-focus as slender distortion or not. I've seen some people consider it, but then I haven't seen anyone consider it here.

I would like to say on this, however, that a camera's autofocus is NOT infallible. If the camera takes enough of a beating, like, say, you trip and drop the camera on the cold hard stone steps of the Osaka Castle Park, then your auto-focus might end up randomly attempting to refocus. I am speaking from experience.

For this reason the oddity of the autofocus displayed in this entry I feel, depending on which way you lean, could be taken one of two ways. If you feel its deliberate distortion, then go ahead and stick to it. Just remember that if a camera takes enough of a beating, the thing can, and will, act up. I would say Jay's camera has taken quite a beating and is thus probably just a technical issue.

The final note to say on all this though is what Jay had written at the end of this entry.

He pretty much assumes that this was the return-to-sender address with no clear outward signs that it really was. I would take that as either Jay is willfully ignorant of the world around him, or that this delapidated architecture really is, ingame, the position of the return-to-sender address and therefore any other theories claiming its not are debunked.

Considering how Jay has noted everything before and after this entry with his classic text makes me feel as if he saw footage that went a: all the way up to this building or b (and more likely): his tape cut from the end of "why am I still talking?" to this point. Which could mean either re-tapped over, a clean cut, or some footage is really missing and Jay is making assumptions by what was said before which isn't actually ingame truth.

Take it what you will. I'm not in anyones camp and am just waiting for more clues to peice together the puzzle which...is still missing too many pieces.

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JohnArgo wrote:
For some reason I get the feeling that there won't be anymore TTA videos, at least not for awhile. I hope I'm wrong, though.


You're probably right. Why would we need any TTA videos when we have seven months of tapes? All of the answers should be in the tapes. Even though a TTA response would be amazing.

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