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HunterEris
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TheBioGuy wrote:
Did anyone else watch the videos theonewhoquestions posted and freak out at 2:24 of the second one?


No, but I now know the truth: totheark is Conrad Aiken.

And I was expected Slendy to show up at any moment. Too many trees without leaves making me jumpy.

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TheBioGuy wrote:
Did anyone else watch the videos theonewhoquestions posted and freak out at 2:24 of the second one?

no, but at about 4:23 there was a very suspicious visual tear thing
I was like "what."

also, seconding the scary trees thing. ._.

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dfw wrote:
TheBioGuy wrote:
Did anyone else watch the videos theonewhoquestions posted and freak out at 2:24 of the second one?

no, but at about 4:23 there was a very suspicious visual tear thing
I was like "what."

also, seconding the scary trees thing. ._.


Ah, see that's what I meant. It looked loser to 4:24 when I first watched it, but looking at it again, yes, it's at 4:23.
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so, I'm pretty sure that seeing the Operator is dangerous, very dangerous. TTA emphasizes hearing and not looking. I'm also pretty sure that the reason Alex left was that he found a way to wipe his own memory, get rid of having seen the operator. Somehow him being on camera summoned the Operator to him though, so there's def. something there. If when alex wiped his own memory of MH he also wiped it for every other cast member, then it would explain why Tim went all masky, as he was starting to remember that he had forgotten. This would explain J's spotty memory and if he managed to erase his memory of the 7 month break, (maybe he accidently deleted too much?) it would imply that he had seen the Operator during this break. TTA is a third party (Jessica? Brian maybe?) and was trying to steer J on the right track. One question is why J stopped uploading during the 7 month break (maybe he didn't have the time or couldn't have access to internets?) Anyway, Alex left because he was so freaked out, and maybe The camera was not only a red herring (and a way to be able to show what had happened) but maybe something about the camera gave him his memories back.

OT I know, but I thought of it while I was reading this thread.

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bobthecrusher wrote:
so, I'm pretty sure that seeing the Operator is dangerous, very dangerous. TTA emphasizes hearing and not looking. I'm also pretty sure that the reason Alex left was that he found a way to wipe his own memory, get rid of having seen the operator. Somehow him being on camera summoned the Operator to him though, so there's def. something there. If when alex wiped his own memory of MH he also wiped it for every other cast member, then it would explain why Tim went all masky, as he was starting to remember that he had forgotten. This would explain J's spotty memory and if he managed to erase his memory of the 7 month break, (maybe he accidently deleted too much?) it would imply that he had seen the Operator during this break. TTA is a third party (Jessica? Brian maybe?) and was trying to steer J on the right track. One question is why J stopped uploading during the 7 month break (maybe he didn't have the time or couldn't have access to internets?) Anyway, Alex left because he was so freaked out, and maybe The camera was not only a red herring (and a way to be able to show what had happened) but maybe something about the camera gave him his memories back.

OT I know, but I thought of it while I was reading this thread.


This gave me the idea of The Operator being a bit like Medusa or a Gorgon. You look at it, bad things happen - but to your mind, not your body. Maybe the camera is like the mirror - looking at it, but not quite.

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Can there be a thread, or atleast a HUB for what totheark videos are decoded, not decoded, and what the meaning is?

It would make it easier.

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iSweet wrote:
Can there be a thread, or atleast a HUB for what totheark videos are decoded, not decoded, and what the meaning is?

It would make it easier.

http://marblehornets.wikidot.com/totheark
Click on one of his entries, and at the bottom there is usually some info on it.

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somniate wrote:

This gave me the idea of The Operator being a bit like Medusa or a Gorgon. You look at it, bad things happen - but to your mind, not your body. Maybe the camera is like the mirror - looking at it, but not quite.


I like this theory. Except for entry #12. Almost the entire MH crew sees Slendy with bare eyes, though Sarah is (presumably) filming, and Alex is wearing glasses..
Brian definitely was unprotected though.

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somniate wrote:
This gave me the idea of The Operator being a bit like Medusa or a Gorgon. You look at it, bad things happen - but to your mind, not your body. Maybe the camera is like the mirror - looking at it, but not quite.

If I remember correctly it was a part of the original Slender Man myths that if you look directly at him, you sort of become paralyzed and are helplessly pushed towards him as he wraps his arms/tentacles around you.

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Magyk wrote:
somniate wrote:

This gave me the idea of The Operator being a bit like Medusa or a Gorgon. You look at it, bad things happen - but to your mind, not your body. Maybe the camera is like the mirror - looking at it, but not quite.


I like this theory. Except for entry #12. Almost the entire MH crew sees Slendy with bare eyes, though Sarah is (presumably) filming, and Alex is wearing glasses..
Brian definitely was unprotected though.


And, we're can't be certain this wasn't the last time we saw Brian either...

This begin to make more sense the more you think it over.

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Snowalker wrote:
Magyk wrote:
somniate wrote:

This gave me the idea of The Operator being a bit like Medusa or a Gorgon. You look at it, bad things happen - but to your mind, not your body. Maybe the camera is like the mirror - looking at it, but not quite.


I like this theory. Except for entry #12. Almost the entire MH crew sees Slendy with bare eyes, though Sarah is (presumably) filming, and Alex is wearing glasses..
Brian definitely was unprotected though.


And, we're can't be certain this wasn't the last time we saw Brian either...

This begin to make more sense the more you think it over.


My only problem with that is the fact that during the filming of MH, we know Jay was suffering blackouts, Tim was getting sick, and Alex was doing... his thing. And then the tapes went away and, presumably, everything went back to normal, and then 3 years later, the tapes got pulled out and everything started over.

Let's not forget to mention, too, that Alex lists Sarah as "gone" at the end of 22, which implies that something happened to her.

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Kilo wrote:

My only problem with that is the fact that during the filming of MH, we know Jay was suffering blackouts, Tim was getting sick, and Alex was doing... his thing. And then the tapes went away and, presumably, everything went back to normal, and then 3 years later, the tapes got pulled out and everything started over.

Let's not forget to mention, too, that Alex lists Sarah as "gone" at the end of 22, which implies that something happened to her.


Yeah, but Alex's "gone" list is a bit sketchy as we know Jay and Tim are not gone. I think they mention Brian missing so many times is to emphasise that he was missing for a while but no one particularly noticed or cared. This implies that the memory loss isn't just for chunks of time, but can be specific things. Like your friend who's been missing for weeks feels like he's only been gone a couple hours.

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Bingo Zero wrote:

Yeah, but Alex's "gone" list is a bit sketchy as we know Jay and Tim are not gone. I think they mention Brian missing so many times is to emphasise that he was missing for a while but no one particularly noticed or cared. This implies that the memory loss isn't just for chunks of time, but can be specific things. Like your friend who's been missing for weeks feels like he's only been gone a couple hours.


Actually, what I was thinking involving his "gone" list was that all those people had been affected by the Operator in some way, and Alex knew it. It seems highly unlikely that Tim becoming Mask is a totally recent development. And there's Jay's blackout periods, and Brian seemed to become hard to find despite the fact that they were using his house (And, of course, 3 years later his house is still pretty significant).

Which is why he took Seth with him into the dragon's lair. Seth wasn't "gone"- at least, not in Alex's eyes. I'd guess there's some correlation there, too, since Seth also operated a camera, but that's speculation for another topic I suppose.

EDIT: Also, a thought I recently had: With Broadcast, Signal, and Operator, I feel like radio is another motif of TTA's, but that may just be an emphasis on the "listening" part.

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Kilo wrote:
Bingo Zero wrote:

Yeah, but Alex's "gone" list is a bit sketchy as we know Jay and Tim are not gone. I think they mention Brian missing so many times is to emphasise that he was missing for a while but no one particularly noticed or cared. This implies that the memory loss isn't just for chunks of time, but can be specific things. Like your friend who's been missing for weeks feels like he's only been gone a couple hours.


Actually, what I was thinking involving his "gone" list was that all those people had been affected by the Operator in some way, and Alex knew it. It seems highly unlikely that Tim becoming Mask is a totally recent development. And there's Jay's blackout periods, and Brian seemed to become hard to find despite the fact that they were using his house (And, of course, 3 years later his house is still pretty significant).

Which is why he took Seth with him into the dragon's lair. Seth wasn't "gone"- at least, not in Alex's eyes. I'd guess there's some correlation there, too, since Seth also operated a camera, but that's speculation for another topic I suppose.

EDIT: Also, a thought I recently had: With Broadcast, Signal, and Operator, I feel like radio is another motif of TTA's, but that may just be an emphasis on the "listening" part.
You should check out my post towards the bottom of the first page. I was talking about it relating to phones. However, radio (or perhaps Ham Radio) could also fit that.

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Posting it again here because it makes more sense here.

The whole electronic voice thing reminds me of a theory I had way back in season one:

TTA = The Operator/Slenderman/whatever you want to call him

Bear with me for a moment, and then you can ram trucks through the holes.

The Operator obviously has some sort of electronic influence on the world around him. He also seems more or less content to observe. But also seems to want something. Whether that be the Ark or...something else entirely, something is keeping him around.

Therefore his presence on youtube is part of his electronic influence. There is no actual person sitting at a computer uploading videos. TTA's videos are simply the manifestations of the Operator. The codes, the puzzles, the odd visual presentations are all byproducts of his inability to communicate effectively with humans. When he asks "Are you drowning" it's because it's a concept he doesn't quite understand given whatever apparent relationship with water he seems to have.

This relationship could also be one of conductive purposes. Rather than protection it might be quite the opposite. (I remember a lot of people talking about Tim notably drinking water. Inviting him in?) The rain with the power lines (and the goofy backwards S that never seemed to get fully explained) and now this view of some watery vision of some type.

"I will always know you." "Do you know me?" While menacing on some level could be attempts at communication, though possibly misguided.

Addendum:
Videos like Return, Admission, Attention, or even Exit all slide into very different places of the puzzle. (not to say the rest don't)

the "remember me" from Exit could certainly refer to the fact that Jay didn't remember any of the stranger things that happened during the Marble Hornets filming. But whoever took the original footage would still be up in the air.

Return's "Found you" would become pretty straight forward.

Admission...is just creepy anyway you slice it. But the disembodied opening and closing of a door would seem...somewhat more normal.

And of course the "return to us" from Attention would be quite easily explained by a theory posted about Masky and the Operator having a similar dynamic to a god and a prophet/herald/creepy-zealot-man. Either that or the Operator having no real sense of identity about himself.

Though the prophet idea would also explain ###### with Masky getting just a little too excited/impatient and trying to drive Jay forward to the promised Ark (whatever that may be). Hence the difference in style and outright directness of it. I mean it states quite clearly "no more games" but here we are again with cryptic TTA statements.

Commence the truck driving. I didn't have time to go through all the TTA videos for evidence ideas and I know others know more than me.

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